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LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!
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This has to go down as the most exhausting, intense, emotional, confusing, brilliant year of my life.
In answer to your question, yes, I'm definitely better, much better than before, but it took cracking a few eggs to even start making the omelette. Funny, this thread has given me so much more back that its been part of that journey
There have been ups and downs (I had to really struggle a few weekends ago not to just give up and climb into bed) but I'm developing tools to handle those times now and I'm glad to say I managed.
The good news is that I'm a lot more at peace with myself and the world now. I dunno if I would say I'm content but I can control the whirlwind a little more and feel the joy in simple things I never did before. Its a process though... mental cleanliness is like physical cleanliness, you have to maintain it or you develop all sorts of nasty stuff.
Good stuff DeVore I find anything that happens fast is too good and to unstable to be true. Sorry to hear you were down a few weeks back. Its a horrible feeling. I found it hard to go into college this morning tbh but Im feeling grand now. This thread is a good ice breaker for people to open up about things so thanks for that.
For me my measure of improvment sounds similar to yours. I recover faster from the downs and the down are not as deep as before if that makes sense. Meditation has been my friend lately (and this thread). Anyway glad to hear your doing better.0 -
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Updated the first post with the link...
Btw, it barely matters whats in that course, your attitude of "I'm willing to try something to make myself better"... thats whats going to make the difference. Dont let that go, dont ever let that slip awayI know someone who this would be perfect for that I was only thinking of today and how to help them. Thanks a million for this.
Thanks guys . .
I will try to keep you posted on how it goes (at least for me anyways) . . Differant strokes for differant folks, but as Devore said, you have to want to "get better" to get the true benefits of whatever it is you are trying to fix yourself!
Really looking forward to it if Im honest . .
Does anybody know what the differance is between seeing a councellor or a psychiatrist ?0 -
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They're spelled and pronounced differently?
Nah, I dunno if there is a difference. There probably is in terms of qualifications (and there are probably dozens of Psychologist aghast at me right now) but I would hazard a guess that the bad psychologists are much worse than the good counselors. If you arent talking to anyone, then either will do for a good start 0 -
I am terrified of going back to the doctor. Absolutely terrified.
The past few weeks ive been trying to keep my mind of things by doing things. This week it has hit me like a tonne of bricks! And worst still i have been a bit secretive about it (again). So i kept bottling it up and now its just really getting me down.
I don't want to go to the doctor, i really dont. I don't want to be put on tablets, i want to be dependent on them. I would rather do more things to keep my mind off things. I know if i go back, he will put me on something and i dont want that. Im not saying there is something wrong with them, far from it. Personally i dont want to be on them.
I just wish this serious bout would fcuk right off!
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PF, I used to do that too, furious ignore the hell out of it and fill my time and mind with as many other things as possible. Its like ignoring a dirty plate because you dont want to wash it... pretty soon its growing mould and an unpleasant job has become a rank one!
What I'm finding works for me now is OLGA (Observe, Let go, Attend). Observe that you are feeling down, bad, whatever and try and see/feel the source of it. I was really annoyed with a friend a while ago and I was frying some fish for dinner, determined to keep from feeling down about a row we had had. I swear you never saw a poor fish get as savage a frying as that
Eventually I had to sit down and go through it, observe how hurt and angry I was and then let go of it as having been "processed" in a healthy manner (not lingering on it, or wallowing in it). Then I attended to the fish again.
I hate when I bottle stuff up because it feels like a backwards step (which it kinda is)... so dont let your desire not to go on drugs stop you from going to the doctor. Any doc worth his salt will take your desires into consideration. Drugs can be effective, but there are other treatments too. Good luck and posting here is a good sign you are willing to deal with this so I hope everything works out great for you 0 -
PF, I used to do that too, furious ignore the hell out of it and fill my time and mind with as many other things as possible. Its like ignoring a dirty plate because you dont want to wash it... pretty soon its growing mould and an unpleasant job has become a rank one!
What I'm finding works for me now is OLGA (Observe, Let go, Attend). Observe that you are feeling down, bad, whatever and try and see/feel the source of it. I was really annoyed with a friend a while ago and I was frying some fish for dinner, determined to keep from feeling down about a row we had had. I swear you never saw a poor fish get as savage a frying as that
Eventually I had to sit down and go through it, observe how hurt and angry I was and then let go of it as having been "processed" in a healthy manner (not lingering on it, or wallowing in it). Then I attended to the fish again.
I hate when I bottle stuff up because it feels like a backwards step (which it kinda is)... so dont let your desire not to go on drugs stop you from going to the doctor. Any doc worth his salt will take your desires into consideration. Drugs can be effective, but there are other treatments too. Good luck and posting here is a good sign you are willing to deal with this so I hope everything works out great for you
Yeh, I try something similar.
Accepting that something bad has happened (to upset you), awknowledge that it upsets you and allow yourself to "mourn" or resolve that pain or conflict!
It doesn't matter how trivial you or anybody else might think your reasons are, the most important thing is that it was enough to effect how you feel. Feelings are real to the person going through them.0 -
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I find I have to "actively ignore" it. As soon as my mind wanders back to the issue, I have to be vigilant and actively say to myself "right, we're not going there!" immediately. Right at the start. Like a schoolteacher, brook no argument or prevarication, thats it, no more discussion about it.I have been reading the messages there about the OLGA and its the letting go that I just find so difficult to do. I know I am ver sensitive and analysis things that dont even register with most people..................it can be just so difficult
I'm not saying that I suppress my feelings, this is only effective after "observe"... that is, let your conscious mind recognise that you are hurt, or lonely or down. Give it its due time .... but no more. When I have observed it and worked through it, then I have to put it behind me and not wallow in it.
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jaffacakesyum wrote: »Had a bad set back today out of nowhere...don't know how long I can do this anymore.
I'm supposed to be heading away this Summer with friends...while I'm living at home I have my own space to go off and cry or whatever...not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that sharing a room with somebody.being honest i know this sounds mad but maybe thats just what you need...
when i was away there was always something going on i just never had time
seriously it could be a welcomed break may give you a fresh perspective on things..jaffacakesyum wrote: »Yeah that's a good point. And this is the first thing I've been excited about in a long time so hopefully it will do me some good.
Another part of my depression is that I find it very difficult to meet gay/bisexual girls in Dublin so hopefully with a bigger city I'll meet some new people and finally get rid of this loneliness, if even temporarily. It's also sort of forcing me to come out to my friends who will be over there with me, which I know I should've done ages ago because they're not exactly homophobic so I guess that little push will do me good.
Just don't want to have to deal with coming out to them and then also having to tell them about my depression, if they find me curled up in the foetal position crying my ass off one afternoon :pac:
So these were my posts from a few months ago. Turned out Snowie was right. I had the most amazing Summer away, I forgot that it was possible to feel happy. I came out to a good group of my friends and they were all brilliant. I lived with so many people that I didn't have time to be bored or depressed or lonely. Sure, I had my moments and depression never fully went away but my quality of life improved hugely.
Unfortunately, now that I'm back I can feel me slipping back into depression. I really think that the cure for me lies in being surrounded by people all the time but that's just not a realistic or healthy way to be. Of course, it's good to be sociable but I shouldn't have to rely on others to be happy
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Hi guys, from a positive message I wrote on the last page, to a now very negative one. What must come up must come down I suppose.
I'm beginning to realise that my only option is that I may have to live life like a loner, as its all I can do, its that realisation that is hard to accept but maybe necessary, but obviously I got really down again tonight, so I ended up ringing a 24 hour counselling service....and yes I blubbed my eyes out....she calmed me down though and did a very good job.
I suppose changing my self worth is the key thing, but when you feel the world doesn't like you, that reality still very difficult to live with, no matter what other goals you set. I have a therapy session tomorrow hopefully I can get through it. 0 -
Hi again guys, this time this is going to be a positive post, so please bare with me, despite all my crying and extreme depression last night, I have just thought of something.
One of the things I have not yet learned or acquired for when things go badly wrong, i.e. when the sh!t hits the fan like last night, and like it has done lots of times in the past 4-5 months with lots of suicidal thoughts when I judge things negatively, is to be able to have an inbuilt coping mechanism. And its something I've thought about just there that I might need finally.
Take this anology, I've simplified my brain into positive and negative parts, negative, for some strange reason, I define as the colour purple (think poisonous colour), when I think negatively and suicidal, thats purple smoke filling in my head, and when I feel positive and upbeat, that I define as an orange colour (not sure why, its my favourite colour I think
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So my job is, when I feel incredibley down hopeless like last night, depressed my life is over etc, I'm never going to get a girlfriend, the world hates me, I need to die, to acknowledge this as the purple smoke filling into my head. Decompartmentalise this, take a step back and recognise all those negative thoughts as the colour purple, I'm a loser, never had a girlfriend, virgin, can't/wont ever have a date, die a loner. Now try combat it with the orange smoke, which includes, looking to become a dentist/doctor, travelling the world, joining clubs and societies, improving social skills, attain part time job, be more social with sports clubs, all those things I wrote on the to do list on the previous page bascially.
Because I figured I don't want to be coming on here, crying ringing the samaritans, struggling to attend my lectures, can't get out of bed etc because I've simply had a bad reaction to something. Its time I needed to learn how to do deal with bad reactions like last night because we all get them, but its about time I learned how to react to them, that doesn't initially cause me to feel the need to self harm etc. Its really important.
I've had enough of me ringing samaritans (although extremely greatful for them), crying because I read something on the internet about guys who've never had a girlfriend, or have had a bad reaction from someone personally, I need to develop a coping mechanism now to when things do go wrong I can cope and function as normal in my everyday life.
So cloud out all the purple smoke with the orange smoke and recognise what that purple smoke is:
- I can't get a girlfriend
- I will die a loner
- Nobody wants to date me
- The world thinks I'm a freak
- I don't deserve friends
- I should be punished with suicide
Take a step back Thomas, these are all the purple signals swarming your head, recognise it, diffuse it with the orange colour. It can be done, come on Thomas. This is the poison in your head, and you must recognise it and learn to remove it from now on in those most darkest moments.0 -
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