"Leap" into the unknown: The feedback thread

Victor

As best I know, retailers can choose which Payzone products they provide.

Fred Swanson

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AlekSmart

bg07 wrote: »

Would a customer operatored balance checker/top up pickup point that requires no shop keeper interaction address this? Something similar to what is in place for checking lotto tickets. Obviously there would be a capital investment that no one will want to cover. At least if it was set up that way it would bring footfall in the shop keeper's premises without using their staff.

Exactly what the solid-state,no moving parts,current Smart Card Validator could do IF somebody in authority could have them fitted to the current RTPI poles....solve all of these Payzone agents problems and keep some footfall OUT of their stores at the same time,leaving them with plenty of extra space for Russian Billionaires keen to buy bags of Tayto......:rolleyes:

Spanish Eyes

Silly question really, but why would anyone top up online, and fill the top up at a Luas machine?

Surely you would just top it up at the Luas machine in one go with your card or cash?

Am I missing something?

goingnowhere

Top ups can be collected just by tagging on or off

So top up online before 5pm, next morning tag on, top up should be there

Victor

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Silly question really, but why would anyone top up online, and fill the top up at a Luas machine?

Surely you would just top it up at the Luas machine in one go with your card or cash?

Am I missing something?

Someone might want to top-up several cards for their children / employees.

Tarabuses

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Silly question really, but why would anyone top up online, and fill the top up at a Luas machine?

Surely you would just top it up at the Luas machine in one go with your card or cash?

Am I missing something?

It is quicker to top up online and then tag on than to queue at the machine and then have the value of your top up announced to everyone around you.

LXFlyer

Tarabuses wrote: »

It is quicker to top up online and then tag on than to queue at the machine and then have the value of your top up announced to everyone around you.

You can turn the sound off!!

Fred Swanson

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Tarabuses

lxflyer wrote: »

You can turn the sound off!!

Where's the switch?

markpb

Tarabuses wrote: »

Where's the switch?

At the bottom left corner of the Luas TVM screen, just after you put your card in, there's a button called Audio. Jab it hard and annoying Luas woman shuts up (briefly). Annoyingly, it turns itself back on when it's finished to announce that it's finished.

Carawaystick

markpb wrote: »

At the bottom left corner of the Luas TVM screen, just after you put your card in, there's a button called Audio. Jab it hard and annoying Luas woman shuts up (briefly). Annoyingly, it turns itself back on when it's finished to announce that it's finished.

Sounds like the computer in HHGttG that drove Marvin nuts

languagenerd

Tarabuses wrote: »

It is quicker to top up online and then tag on than to queue at the machine and then have the value of your top up announced to everyone around you.

Kind of off-topic, but WHY do the Luas machines instantly get three times louder as soon as you put a Leap card in?!

Tarabuses

languagenerd wrote: »

Kind of off-topic, but WHY do the Luas machines instantly get three times louder as soon as you put a Leap card in?!

In case the user is deaf?

languagenerd

Tarabuses wrote: »

In case the user is deaf?

It's louder for Leap cards than any other service though! Are Leap Card users more likely to be deaf?!

LXFlyer

Leap has now been extended to all Bus Eireann routes in the greater Dublin area.

http://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=363

Leap Card available on Bus Éireann services in the Greater Dublin Area

Leap Card is now available to use on Bus Éireann's services in the Greater Dublin Area offering customers a cheaper, flexible and more convenient way to travel on these services and other Leap-enabled public transport services.

Adult Leap Cards can now be used on Bus Éireann commuter services in the Greater Dublin Area. Simply buy your Leap Card (available online/Payzone outlets in Dublin), top it up with Travel Credit or purchase a 1 Day or 7 Day ticket and away you go.

With Travel Credit you can get a 10% discount on the standard adult single fare, while One Day or Seven Day tickets provide great value by allowing unlimited travel between Dublin and the chosen zone. (Travel credit cannot currently be used to purchase Adult single fares on Route 100X Dublin-Dublin Airport-Drogheda-Dundalk and Route 101 Dublin-Airport-Balbriggan-Drogheda).

Leap Card Options

Travel Credit – This works just like phone credit. You top it up and then the cost of your fare or ticket is deducted from your balance every time you travel. You can use Travel Credit to get a 10% discount on the standard adult single fare.

Period Tickets – You can purchase 1 day or 7 day tickets for your Leap Card:

Adult 1 Day
1 Day tickets are valid for 24 hours following activation of the ticket on Bus

Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red Zone - €7.60
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red & Green Zones - €9.30
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green & Blue Zones - €16.80
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green, Blue & Yellow Zones - €19.00
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green, Blue, Yellow & Orange Zones - €19.50

Adult 7 Day
7 Day tickets are valid for 7 consecutive days following activation of the ticket on Bus
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red Zone - €38.00
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red & Green Zones - €45.00
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green & Blue Zones - €56.50
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green, Blue & Yellow Zones - €60.00
Unlimited travel on commuter services in the Red, Green, Blue, Yellow & Orange Zones - €65.00


For further information on zones and available services, please see the list below of routes in the Greater Dublin Area or view the zonal map.

Customers seeking further information on how to purchase or use a Leap Card can download an information leaflet.

For further information on the Leap Card visit www.leapcard.ie

Please note: Currently, only adult Leap Cards can be used on the applicable Bus Éireann services. Child and student Leap Cards will be available in the near future.

Routes on which Leapcard is Valid

100 Drogheda - Dunleer Castlebellingham - Dundalk - Newry
100X Dublin - Dublin Airport - Drogheda - Dundalk
101 Dublin - Airport - Balbriggan - Drogheda
101X Wilton Tce - Drogheda - Termon Abbey
103 Dublin - Ashbourne - Kilmoon - Duleek
105 Dublin - Ratoath107Dublin - Navan - Nobber - Kingscourt
108 Dublin - Kells - Baileboro
109Dublin - Dunshaughlin
109A DCU - Airport - Ratoath - Dunshaughlin - Navan - Kells
111 Wilton Tce - City Centre - Trim - Athboy -Cavan
115/115A Dublin - Mullingar - Longford
120 Dublin - Clane - Prosperous - Edenderry/Tullamore
123 Dublin - Clane - Prosperous - Robertstown - Newbridge
124 Dublin - Portlaoise
126 Dublin - Naas - Newbridge - Kildare
130 Dublin - Kilcullen - Athy
132 Dublin - Tullow - Carnew - Rosslare Europort
133 Dublin Airport - Dublin - Ashford - Wicklow
134 Navan - Dunsany - Dorey's Forge
135 Scurloughstown - Navan
136 Ross Cross - Navan
161 Dundalk - Greenore - Carlingford - Omeath - Newry
162 Clones - Monaghan - Dundalk
163 Dublin - Drogheda - Donore
166 Dundalk - Carrickmacross Cavan
167 Dundalk - Louth - Ardee
168 Dundalk - Anagassan
175 Monaghan - Cootehill - Cavan
177 Dublin - Airport - Ardee - Monaghan
182 Drogheda - Collon - Ardee
187 Kells - Virginia - Ballyjamesduff - Oldcastle
188 Drogheda - Slane - Navan - Trim
189 Drogheda - Baltray - Termonfeckin - Clogher Hd - Grangebellew
190 Drogheda - Bettystown - Laytown
104 Balbriggan Town Service
110 Navan Town Service
173 Drogheda Town Service
174 Dundalk Town Service

n0brain3r

Any plans for IE to extend the range of Leap?

foggy_lad

So it is only abailable on all buses in the red zone so far yet their advertising it as if it is available to all zones?

Also most of the routes listed have pick up only outbound and drop off only inbound restrictions within zones 1 & 2 making leap use in zone 1 almost impossible. It can be used to/from celbridge on tje 120 and also on the 103/105 but that is about it.

LXFlyer

The more immediate plans are for introducing the following in the Dublin Short Hop Zone:
- Auto top-up
- Loading period passes onto LEAP (including taxsaver tickets)
- Single operator caps (Already on Irish Rail and LUAS)
- Multi-operator caps

I think extending LEAP beyond the Short Hop Zone on Irish Rail is something that may happen after that - they've more than enough to keep them going.

LXFlyer

foggy_lad wrote: »

So it is only abailable on all buses in the red zone so far yet their advertising it as if it is available to all zones?

Also most of the routes listed have pick up only outbound and drop off only inbound restrictions within zones 1 & 2 making leap use in zone 1 almost impossible. It can be used to/from celbridge on tje 120 and also on the 103/105 but that is about it.

Did you even bother to read the post above?

It is valid on all the routes listed in all of the zones - the only exceptions are single tickets on the 100X and 101.

As usual, you are somewhat short of the mark. Zone 1 (Red zone) includes:
103 to Ashbourne
105 to Ratoath
111 to Batterstown
115/115A to Kilcock
120/123 to Celbridge and Straffan
126 to Kill
133 to Kilmacanogue

foggy_lad

lxflyer wrote: »

Leap has now been extended to all Bus Eireann routes in the greater Dublin area.

http://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=363

It is stated clearly that it is only available in the greater Dublin Area

lxflyer wrote: »

Did you even bother to read the post above?

It is valid on all the routes listed in all of the zones - the only exceptions are single tickets on the 100X and 101.

As usual, you are somewhat short of the mark. Zone 1 (Red zone) includes:
103 to Ashbourne
105 to Ratoath
111 to Batterstown
115/115A to Kilcock
120/123 to Celbridge
126 to Kill
133 to Kilmacanogue

If it is valid as you say on all routes listed in all zones then it can be used to get to Kilmoon/Duleek on the 103/105? or Athboy and Cavan on the 111? out to Edenderry/Tullamore on the 120/121? or Newbridge on the 123/126? or Longford on the 115? and Wicklow on the 133

LXFlyer

foggy_lad wrote: »

It is stated clearly that it is only available in the greater Dublin Area


If it is valid as you say on all routes listed in all zones then it can be used to get to Kilmoon/Duleek on the 103/105? or Athboy and Cavan on the 111? out to Edenderry/Tullamore on the 120/121? or Newbridge on the 123/126? or Longford on the 115? and Wicklow on the 133

Not for the first time, you are completely misreading the statement and being far too narrow in your interpretation.

BE/NTA are using the term "Greater Dublin Area" in the widest possible sense to mean all of the zones - zones 1-6. That much is clear from the list of routes that it can be used on.

It does not apply to just zone 1. It covers zones 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. I merely listed how far on each route zone 1 covers in post #1851 - you listed only 3 routes.

It covers EVERY route in post #1847 in their entirety.

I don't know how much clearer they could put it.

So yes, you can now use LEAP to get as far as Cavan, Tullamore, Longford etc. using Leap on the routes listed above.

foggy_lad

lxflyer wrote: »

Not for the first time, you are completely misreading the statement and being far too narrow in your interpretation.

BE/NTA are using the term "Greater Dublin Area" in the widest possible sense to mean all of the zones - zones 1-6. That much is clear from the list of routes that it can be used on.

It does not apply to just zone 1. It covers zones 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. I merely listed how far on each route zone 1 covers in post #1851 - you listed only 3 routes.

It covers EVERY route in post #1847 in their entirety.

I don't know how much clearer they could put it.

So yes, you can now use LEAP to get as far as Cavan, Tullamore, Longford etc. using Leap on the routes listed above.

This makes it a lot clearer than whoever wrote that press release!

Ask anyone what the greater Dublin area is and they will indicate the area covered by the short hop zone - Maynooth-Bray/greystones-Balbriggan

AngryLips

foggy_lad wrote: »

This makes it a lot clearer than whoever wrote that press release!

Ask anyone what the greater Dublin area is and they will indicate the area covered by the short hop zone - Maynooth-Bray/greystones-Balbriggan

I would've taken GDA to be Co Dublin and adjacent counties, plus Louth. I would've thought the area you're talking about is metopolitan Dublin, ie the continuous built up area of Dublin city.

LXFlyer

foggy_lad wrote: »

This makes it a lot clearer than whoever wrote that press release!

Ask anyone what the greater Dublin area is and they will indicate the area covered by the short hop zone - Maynooth-Bray/greystones-Balbriggan

For goodness sakes - it lists the routes it is applicable to. How much clearer do you need?

Given BE don't carry people within the Short Hop Zone (in general) it's pretty obvious what the statement means.

Either way I think this conversation has digressed enough!!!

Polar101

It says the Leap card is valid on route 109 "Dublin-Dunshaughlin" - is that just a mistake on the Bus Eireann site?

LXFlyer

Polar101 wrote: »

It says the Leap card is valid on route 109 "Dublin-Dunshaughlin" - is that just a mistake on the Bus Eireann site?

I would think it is - it should apply all the way to Cavan.

TheBandicoot

So you can apply period tickets to the Leap for BE? Cool, when is that functionality coming to the other modes? My brother recently started college and was very confused he couldn't just load his monthly student bus ticket onto his student travel/Leap card.

foggy_lad

TheBandicoot wrote: »

So you can apply period tickets to the Leap for BE? Cool, when is that functionality coming to the other modes? My brother recently started college and was very confused he couldn't just load his monthly student bus ticket onto his student travel/Leap card.

The BE leap offering only applies to adult daily and 7 day tickets so far as far as I can see from the confusing information available.

Dravokivich

TheBandicoot wrote: »

So you can apply period tickets to the Leap for BE? Cool, when is that functionality coming to the other modes? My brother recently started college and was very confused he couldn't just load his monthly student bus ticket onto his student travel/Leap card.

It's all dependant on each operator and which stage they are at within the scheme. Not too much details have been released on it though.