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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #4112
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    tanko wrote: »
    The 2020 Bova catalogue is up on their Facebook page.

    No escalop!! :(


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    #4113
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Bova Beef 2020

    https://issuu.com/michaeloneill13/docs/bova_ai_beef_sire_brochure_2020?fbclid=IwAR1BnUql7UbOViNLTjZCnvQCgslt48xGdwS9sUt6eFOh0DIbT2xJDv5tUCk

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    #4114
    Seanhorse91
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Seanhorse91


    Sagesse Pierre was a gorgeous bull when I seen him in tullamore. Definitely getting a few straws of him for a few pb’s


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    #4115
    GiantPencil
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭GiantPencil


    Seanhorse91 wrote: »
    Sagesse Pierre was a gorgeous bull when I seen him in tullamore. Definitely getting a few straws of him for a few pb’s

    what was it about him that stood out? I saw him there too and he didn't catch my eye only for the fact he had ribbons on him and was done up to the nines! I find a lot of those Charolais cattle at shows have so much soap and product on them that it kind of takes away from them as a whole


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    #4116
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Seanhorse91 wrote: »
    Sagesse Pierre was a gorgeous bull when I seen him in tullamore. Definitely getting a few straws of him for a few pb’s

    Scary calving figure.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4117
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Scary calving figure.

    Fortune favors the brave Patsy ;)


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    #4118
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Fortune favors the brave Patsy ;)

    Fools rush in where angels fear to tread....:D

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4119
    GiantPencil
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Scary calving figure.

    Picks that up from the bull he's off. Pity we can't see more into those figures to see what was the cows/heifers he was used on. Doesn't seem like Maerdy Sinndar was used commercially much so maybe that's why his calving difficulty is so high.


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    #4120
    Seanhorse91
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Seanhorse91


    GiantPencil wrote: »
    what was it about him that stood out? I saw him there too and he didn't catch my eye only for the fact he had ribbons on him and was done up to the nines! I find a lot of those Charolais cattle at shows have so much soap and product on them that it kind of takes away from them as a whole

    He just carried himself with class I thought. Not overly muscled and had fine strong legs under him. Think he’d put them proper French Charolais traits back into my cows.


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    #4121
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    New Prestige catalogues up also now for PG/Munster AI ;

    https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/downloads

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4122
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    New Prestige catalogues up also now for PG/Munster AI ;

    https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/downloads

    In your opinion what's the best maternal lm bull munster have?


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    #4123
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    In your opinion what's the best maternal lm bull munster have?

    Bavardage (AGB) was a great bull but poor on fertility.
    Funny, but I was just looking through the new Gene Ireland catalogue for 2020 and they have a new bull IX (LM5983). His breeding is Bavardage and Neuf. Neuf was good for fertility. At €5 a straw, he's nearly worth a gamble.
    Bavardage was €60 but no longer available.


    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?p=13210

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4124
    Sheep breeder
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    GiantPencil wrote: »
    what was it about him that stood out? I saw him there too and he didn't catch my eye only for the fact he had ribbons on him and was done up to the nines! I find a lot of those Charolais cattle at shows have so much soap and product on them that it kind of takes away from them as a whole

    He has style and power and super legs to carry weight, and caught the eye straight away and moved very well and looked full French. Have straws order of him.


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    #4125
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Bavardage (AGB) was a great bull but poor on fertility.
    Funny, but I was just looking through the new Gene Ireland catalogue for 2020 and they have a new bull IX (LM5983). His breeding is Bavardage and Neuf. Neuf was good for fertility. At €5 a straw, he's nearly worth a gamble.
    Bavardage was €60 but no longer available.


    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?p=13210

    Thats exactly it with with the lm. Ive a couple of saler cows here and the smell of the bull and they are incalf. Cheers for that.


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    #4126
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Bavardage (AGB) was a great bull but poor on fertility.
    Funny, but I was just looking through the new Gene Ireland catalogue for 2020 and they have a new bull IX (LM5983). His breeding is Bavardage and Neuf. Neuf was good for fertility. At €5 a straw, he's nearly worth a gamble.
    Bavardage was €60 but no longer available.


    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?p=13210

    Careful with anything Neuf I had a bull from him and he was very flighty and fresh. Excellent calves and not hard calved though. I kept the two lightest heifers off him and they have two lovely calves now and as quiet as lambs


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    #4127
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    The very first PB Lim heifer I bought is by Neuf. She's a bit temperamental alright, especially at calving but she's a great breeder.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4128
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭High bike


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Bavardage (AGB) was a great bull but poor on fertility.
    Funny, but I was just looking through the new Gene Ireland catalogue for 2020 and they have a new bull IX (LM5983). His breeding is Bavardage and Neuf. Neuf was good for fertility. At €5 a straw, he's nearly worth a gamble.
    Bavardage was €60 but no longer available.


    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?p=13210
    do you mean his daughters have bad fertility patsy??


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    #4129
    patsy_mccabe
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    High bike wrote: »
    do you mean his daughters have bad fertility patsy??

    Ya, that's going by the ICBF figures. I've 2 Bavardage bulls here. Was hoping for some heifers.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4130
    High bike
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Ya, that's going by the ICBF figures. I've 2 Bavardage bulls here. Was hoping for some heifers.
    got a heifer here last year and didn’t think much of her but she really turned inside out over the winter,going to chance her and see


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    #4131
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    The very first PB Lim heifer I bought is by Neuf. She's a bit temperamental alright, especially at calving but she's a great breeder.

    Yea a well known breeder was at the sale when we let that bull on and he was asking about the breeding. I told him to get his hand up! He was saying a Neuf female is a great job but males can be flighty


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    #4132
    Hard Knocks
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    Looking for options on good muscle BB with PG for tall red SI/LM/LM cow


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    #4133
    patsy_mccabe
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Yea a well known breeder was at the sale when we let that bull on and he was asking about the breeding. I told him to get his hand up! He was saying a Neuf female is a great job but males can be flighty

    I remember Doreen Corrigan of the Roundhill Herd saying it once too, that everyone loved their Nuef cows.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4134
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Well I just ordered 10 straws of the Limousin bull IX (LM5983) from Gene Ireland. I'll try 1 or 2 this year and see how they go. Can't complain at €5 each.

    Some french info on him from the Evolution webpage;
    http://www.evolution-int.com/en/bull/34/FR1937361674/alt

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4135
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Well I just ordered 10 straws of the Limousin bull IX (LM5983) from Gene Ireland. I'll try 1 or 2 this year and see how they go. Can't complain at €5 each.

    Some french info on him from the Evolution webpage;
    http://www.evolution-int.com/en/bull/34/FR1937361674/alt

    I used gene Ireland few years ago. Thought at the time all the straws had to be used in the subsequent breeding season and you couldn’t carry them over. That kind of turned me off it a bit.


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    #4136
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    I used gene Ireland few years ago. Thought at the time all the straws had to be used in the subsequent breeding season and you couldn’t carry them over. That kind of turned me off it a bit.

    I was tempted until I read the t&c, now what they can do if you don’t use them what can they do? Demand the straws back?


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    #4137
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Looking for options on good muscle BB with PG for tall red SI/LM/LM cow

    DBZ isn't a bad bull at all on big cows. He's easy calved for a blue anyway..


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    #4138
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    I was tempted until I read the t&c, now what they can do if you don’t use them what can they do? Demand the straws back?

    Jeez, there's no way I will use the full amount anyway. That's for sure.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4139
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Jeez, there's no way I will use the full amount anyway. That's for sure.

    At a fiver, use two at a time:D


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    #4140
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    At a fiver, use two at a time:D

    Maybe the next time, I'll read the T&C more carefully.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4141
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    3.1 The herd owner shall use all semen ordered in the current breeding season.

    7. Both ICBF and the herd owner may terminate the services at any time upon giving the other at least 30 days notice in writing. In addition ICBF may terminate the services immediately by notice in writing to the herd owner if the herd owner breaches any of these conditions or:
    7.2 the herd owner does anything which in ICBF's opinion, damages or has the potential to damage ICBF's reputation or the reputation of the services.


    You're f****d Patsy:D:D


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