Do you support any British sports teams?

Mars Bar

No

jimdeans wrote: »

So you set up their ladies team AND they represent your area, yet you say about the club "It whets my appetite until I get over to Old Trafford" (in one of your previous posts0.

i know you won't get it, but in the eyes of many, that is the definition of a plastic sky fan. Though, to be fair, at least you're involved in your local team.

That club and some of it's people has also hurt me more than United have ever done. It's almost easier to not know anyone at the club and just watch the football.

Earlier on, the definition of a Sky fan was picking a successful club to support because they are successful. Now it's just to pass the time and keep the appetite at bay. Which is it?

jimdeans

mars bar wrote: »

That club and some of it's people has also hurt me more than United have ever done. It's almost easier to not know anyone at the club and just watch the football.

Earlier on, the definition of a Sky fan was picking a successful club to support because they are successful. Now it's just to pass the time and keep the appetite at bay. Which is it?

It's the same. It doesn't change anything about why you were "taken by united". But it's worse when you're actually involved in a local team and they only "whet your appetite", whereas the PLC makes you actually emotional

Most plastics, in your defence, wouldn't even care who their local team is.

Mars Bar

No

jimdeans wrote: »

It's the same. It doesn't change anything about why you were "taken by united". But it's worse when you're actually involved in a local team and they only "whet your appetite", whereas the PLC makes you actually emotional

Most plastics, in your defence, wouldn't even care who their local team is.

To you it's just a business. To me it's more.
I don't think we're gonna agree on this. Although I think we both knew that along time ago.

I am in your eyes, a plastic. You in my eyes, are tunnel visioned.

Anyway, I'm fed up of this. Gotta get my beauty sleep for tomorrow's big game against Chelsea where I'll meet my best friend who I got to know through the wonderful club that is Manchester United FC.

jimdeans

mars bar wrote: »

To you it's just a business. To me it's more.
I don't think we're gonna agree on this. Although I think we both knew that along time ago.

I am in your eyes, a plastic. You in my eyes, are tunnel visioned.

Anyway, I'm fed up of this. Gotta get my beauty sleep for tomorrow's big game against Chelsea where I'll meet my best friend who I got to know through the wonderful club that is Manchester United FC.

Sleep well, and enjoy the game. I have strong opinions on it, but wouldn't like to fall out with anyone over it. It's only a game and all that jazz

dan1895

I don't support any teams/not interested in sport

So you'd support a foreign team over the town your from???? Bizarre!

dan1895

I don't support any teams/not interested in sport

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Sip-porters are the worst type of barstoolers!

I think the term barstooler just became redundant. I'm going to start saying sip-porter:D

Mars Bar

No

dan1895 wrote: »

So you'd support a foreign team over the town your from???? Bizarre!

Read what I wrote. I have been a United supporter longer than I have lived in the town.

dan1895 wrote: »

I think the term barstooler just became redundant. I'm going to start saying sip-porter:D

That genuinely made me laugh when I read it!

ascanbe

http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-suffer-humiliation-when-the-sports-team-f,10804/

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

Charlton identified right wing and striker as the two weakest positions in the Ireland team when he took over. He basically offered a pair of players who had tenuous links with this country, who were overlooked by their native countries, already in their mid-to-late-20s and playing for todays equivalent of a team like Wolves guaranteed first XI place at international level. Within in a year they were both at Liverpool. No doubt they were worth their places at Liverpool but likewise I've no doubt that getting international football also helped their careers both financially and in term of profile.

Also Liverpool already had a tradition of Irish players when they signed Aldridge/Houghton. They already had Jim Beglin, Ronnie Whelan, Steve Staunton, Mark Lawrenson and Brian Mooney on their books when they signed Aldridge/Houghton so I don't know what point you're trying to make there.

Same here, what's your point? Houghton and Aldridge made their debuts early under Charlton, Houghton in the defeat to Wales in Charltons' first game, both as Oxford United players.

Sheridan was a lovely player, really liked him, big fan of that type of player, but he'd be a bit of an Andy Reid type player now! The reason Sheridan never played for a Liverpool, Forest (was signed but wasn't good enough) or United then was he wasn't good enough. Wonder why Sheridan joined Forest?

Aldridge and Houghton chose Ireland when it wasn't fashionable.

Oxford were very nearly relegated the season Liverpool signed those 2.

What exactly is your point? Players use getting picked for international teams as a means of progressing their career? I'm stunned at this revelation.

Dotrel

Bwow-ba-da-dum-da-dum-dah-dah-deh-dah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CPQBra3GI8

dan1895

I don't support any teams/not interested in sport

mars bar wrote: »

Read what I wrote. I have been a United supporter longer than I have lived in the town.



That genuinely made me laugh when I read it!

Good, it was a joke after all.

For the record I personally don't use the term "barstooler"

Dotrel

K-9 wrote: »

Same here, what's your point? Houghton and Aldridge made their debuts early under Charlton, Houghton in the defeat to Wales in Charltons' first game, both as Oxford United players.

Sheridan was a lovely player, really liked him, big fan of that type of player, but he'd be a bit of an Andy Reid type player now! The reason Sheridan never played for a Liverpool, Forest or United then was he wasn't good enough.

Aldridge and Houghton chose Ireland when it wasn't fashionable.

Oxford were very nearly relegated the season Liverpool signed those 2.

What exactly is your point? Players use getting picked for international teams as a means of progressing their career? I'm stunned at this revelation.

My point was to state that some non-Irish players choose Ireland as their first choice and that others do not. I followed this up by giving example of non-Irish players who had Ireland as their first choice (Sheridan) and non-Irish players who chose Ireland simply because it suited them at that particular time (Aldrige/Hougton). It's the entire content of my three line post a few pages back.

So back to my initial quesiton which what's your point anyway? I didn't even mention Oxford or Daglish in my first comment and yet you decided to drag it off in that direction for no particular reason. That makes absolutely no difference to what I was originally saying. Whether they got to Liverpool because of Ireland or not their intention of playing for Ireland was to promote their own careers rather than any sense of patriotism or loyalty to this country.

Fromthetrees

No

Mytwo cents eh:), I've followed Cork City FC since I was 6 because of my Dad, been to games every season since ranging from about 5 to all depending on work and such, they'll always be number one to me, follow Celtic because of my Grandad and Dad, been once, follow all the games, my Grandad supported Liverpool so while growing up he got me into supporting Liverpool, been over twice, played GAA with my local football team so I naturally support Cork in the hurling and football, played rugby for two years with Cork Con so obviously support them and was fecking delighted with the win over Aussieland, support Munster all the way, I've always had a soft spot for Barcelona playing soccer, same goes for Fiorentina and PSG in France, love Ireland winning in anything, don't like England winning in anything mainly because of attitude, I'm in no mood for people who can't understand this so just **** off. I love sport.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

My point was to state that some non-Irish players choose Ireland as their first choice and that others do not. I followed this up by giving example of non-Irish players who had Ireland as their first choice (Sheridan) and non-Irish players who chose Ireland simply because it suited them at that particular time (Aldrige/Hougton). It's the entire content of my three line post a few pages back.

So back to my initial quesiton which what's your point anyway? I didn't even mention Oxford or Daglish in my first comment and yet you decided to drag it off in that direction for no particular reason. That makes absolutely no difference to what I was originally saying.

Grand, now we are getting somewhere, we are back at your initial post. How do you know Houghton didn't pick Ireland as his first choice?

As for Oxford and Dalglish, you mentioned Houghton and Aldridge and how they picked Ireland to progress their careers, you follow? Their progression was.....................................

dan1895

I don't support any teams/not interested in sport

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Mytwo cents eh:), I've followed Cork City FC since I was 6 because of my Dad, been to games every season since ranging from about 5 to all depending on work and such, they'll always be number one to me, follow Celtic because of my Grandad and Dad, been once, follow all the games, my Grandad supported Liverpool so while growing up he got me into supporting Liverpool, been over twice, played GAA with my local football team so I naturally support Cork in the hurling and football, played rugby for two years with Cork Con so obviously support them and was fecking delighted with the win over Aussieland, support Munster all the way, I've always had a soft spot for Barcelona playing soccer, same goes for Fiorentina and PSG in France, love Ireland winning in anything, don't like England winning in anything mainly because of attitude, I'm in no mood for people who can't understand this so just **** off. I love sport.

This I understand. I understand having connections to teams in other countries. But unlike yourself most people in this country don't harbour the same affection for their local clubs, which you do on multiple levels. moreso than myself I must say.

Dotrel

K-9 wrote: »

Grand, now we are getting somewhere, we are back at your initial post. How do you know Houghton didn't pick Ireland as his first choice?

I've heard both on record as admitting it. I can't remember the exact source for Aldridge but you can hear Houghton saying it on "Que Sera Sera, Official Irish World cup 1990" (you can find a d/l if you look under that name).

As for Oxford and Dalglish, you mentioned Houghton and Aldridge and how they picked Ireland to progress their careers, you follow? Their progression was.....................................

It's an irrelevant discussion. For one thing in most cases you qualify for a pay bump merely for qualifying as a full international player so that's a progression in itself. Obviously international football can put you in the shop window and competing against top international teams is only going to help your profile and experience leading to you becoming a more valuable and sought after footballer. I'm sure Aldridge and Houghton gained more from three trips to Brussels, Glasgow and Sofia than they did in an entire season at Oxford for instance.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

I've heard both on record as admitting it. I can't remember the exact source for Aldridge but you can hear Houghton saying it on "Que Sera Sera, Official Irish World cup 1990" (you can find a d/l if you look under that name).

You made the claim. I'm not doing the legwork for you.

It's an irrelevant discussion. For one thing in most cases you qualify for a pay bump merely for qualifying as a full international player so that's a progression in itself. Obviously international football can put you in the shop window and competing against top international teams is only going to help your profile and experience leading to you becoming a more valuable and sought after footballer. I'm sure Aldridge and Houghton gained more from three trips to Brussels, Glasgow and Sofia than they did in an entire season at Oxford for instance.

You shouldn't have brought it up if you think it's irrelevant!

Dotrel

K-9 wrote: »

You made the claim. I'm not doing the legwork for you.

I just checked Que Cera. Aldridge says it on there too.

You shouldn't have brought it up if you think it's irrelevant!

I brought up that their intention was to progress their careers which is relevant. The details of that the progression are irrelevant. If you want to know those then do your own legwork.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

I just checked Que Cera. Aldridge says it on there too.

Can you give me some type of link to start of?

Aldridge isn't in doubt, the accepted wisdom is it was an FAI accident discovering him. Houghton is what I'm interested in.

I brought up that their intention was to progress their careers which is relevant. The details of that the progression are irrelevant. If you want to know those then do your own legwork.

Yet Sheridan's wasn't? You made the claims, I'd hope you'd have something to back it up or are you keyboard warrioring?

Dotrel

K-9 wrote: »

Can you give me some type of link to start of?

Aldridge isn't in doubt, the accepted wisdom is it was an FAI accident discovering him. Houghton is what I'm interested in.

Try typing : blogspot up and down que irish
into a well known billion dollar website and see what turns up
(not going to give links in case of banning)

Yet Sheridan's wasn't? You made the claims, I'd hope you'd have something to back it up or are you keyboard warrioring?

Or what? Is that your entire approach of your argument? Prove this, prove that! These are things I've seen and read some maybe even 15+ years ago in print. You can believe them or not but I don't work for a newspaper and I haven't the time or interest to go finding sources for you. Prove me wrong if it bothers you so much.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

Try typing : blogspot up and down que irish
into a well known billion dollar website and see what turns up
(not going to give links in case of banning)



Or what? Is that your entire approach of your argument? Prove this, prove that! These are things I've seen and read some maybe even 15+ years ago in print. You can believe them or not but I don't work for a newspaper and I haven't the time or interest to go finding sources for you. Prove me wrong if it bothers you so much.

Wtf?

Unless it is a porn site or has objectionable material, link away? LOL. .

We all are asked to provide links now and again, it happens when posters want to know another poster isn't bull****ting. You know this information, it's common manners and decency to share this information on a discussion site!

I want to see the information and will change my opinion if it says what you think it says. You have the information. Just share it and discuss! It would be rude not to!

Dotrel

Nice try. I realise you're trolling me and trying to bait me into posting links but it's not going to work. Please don't assume that because you've been here 4 years and I've been here 4 minutes that you have the edge. If you really want to find that file then it'll be easy enough for you to get it.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

Nice try. I realise you're trolling me and trying to bait me into posting links but it's not going to work. Please don't assume that because you've been here 4 years and I've been here 4 minutes that you have the edge. If you really want to find that file then it'll be easy enough for you to get it.

I like your style.

Asking you to back up your opinion is trolling! Love it!

Dotrel

K-9 wrote: »

I like your style.

Asking you to back up your opinion is trolling! Love it!

Right.

You were doing ok for a while but then you got greedy.

Like I said if you want the file then a resourceful fella like yourself will have no problem finding it.

K-9

Dotrel wrote: »

Right.

You were doing ok for a while but then you got greedy.

Like I said if you want the file then a resourceful fella like yourself will have no problem finding it.

You could PM me the link if it so controversial!

Dotrel

I could but I think you'd enjoy having it more if you found it yourself. You seem to enjoy putting effort into pointless pursuits of minor rewards.

jimdeans

Everyone ready for another magical afternoon at the theatre of dreams this afternoon?

Duckworth_Luas

jimdeans wrote: »

Everyone ready for another magical afternoon at the theatre of dreams this afternoon?

Which one of our dastardly rivals are we playing?:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

jimdeans

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Which one of our dastardly rivals are we playing?:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

I must be brain damaged from all that boxing i did in rageing bull