More proof of Healy Rae gombeenism

steelcityblues

From The Journal:

"INDEPENDENT TD MICHAEL Healy-Rae won a celebrity television competition after winning over 3,500 votes that were generated from an Oireachtas phone in 2007, it has emerged."

A resigning offence?

http://www.thejournal.ie/healy-rae-won-tv-show-after-thousands-of-calls-from-the-dail-164750-Jun2011/

thebman

I should hope so but no I don't think anything will be done. He was probably entitled to do it :rolleyes:

Nothing illegal so he'll brass neck it out.

steelcityblues

thebman wrote: »

I should hope so but no I don't think anything will be done. He was probably entitled to do it :rolleyes:

Nothing illegal so he'll brass neck it out.

Will 'Dad' take the wrap?

The yahoos down there will only love him more because of this, of course.

the immortals

unreal, its like something out of val falvey

patar

A complete and utter GOB****E. How the fu*k can people in Kerry elect nóinses like Healey-Rae and his father ><

Sir Oxman

steelcityblues wrote: »

From The Journal:

"INDEPENDENT TD MICHAEL Healy-Rae won a celebrity television competition after winning over 3,500 votes that were generated from an Oireachtas phone in 2007, it has emerged."

A resigning offence?

http://www.thejournal.ie/healy-rae-won-tv-show-after-thousands-of-calls-from-the-dail-164750-Jun2011/

I wouldn't think so especially in this country????
If it turns out to be the da, he'll just brassneck it out and keep drawing his pensions and being awarded Kerry CoCo contracts.
See, what's missing in this country is accountability for the 'little' things like this which lends itself to no accountability everywhere which leads to mammoth clusterfcuks.

ArtSmart

and poor micheal didnt take his NTPF board appointment for some strange reason. - maybe cos it's being disbanded?

handy board that.

wrote:

There was correspondence from Government Buildings too with former Taoiseach Brian Cowen writing to Mr Healy-Rae last June with some good news. 'Following our recent discussions on the matter, I now wish to confirm that I have spoken to my colleague Ms Mary Harney... who has agreed to appoint Cllr Michael Healy-Rae to the board of the National Treatment Purchase Fund.
'I am sure that Michael will make a fine contribution to the workings of the board.' he wrote.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0605/healyraej.html

ArtSmart

patar wrote: »

A complete and utter GOB****E. How the fu*k can people in Kerry elect nóinses like Healey-Rae and his father ><

em, read the rte article, maybe that'll help.

charlemont

Its crazy and ill bet his supporters will see nothing wrong with it.

later12

It isn 't that there is nothing wrong here, I just find the image of J.H.R. sitting at his desk in Oireachtas Eireann re-dialling and re-dialling a phone-in reality tv show pretty amusing.

What was he thinking?

Maybe the Prince of the Kerrymen enjoyed immense popularity in Leinster House?

Anyway, while a revelation of this nature might be embarrassing to some 'serious' politicians, I am sure that it will not faze Mr Healy Rae. It certainly isn 't a resigning offence, in my opinion.

seamy_orr

and they shot Michael Collins

Padraig Mor

later10 wrote: »

It isn 't that there is nothing wrong here, I just find the image of J.H.R. sitting at his desk in Oireachtas Eireann re-dialling and re-dialling a phone-in reality tv show pretty amusing.

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Shame on you - a disgraceful suggestion.

He would have got one of his (taxpayer funded) aides to do it!;)

Sunnyisland

He wont be resigning over it and all he can say is that the calls came from leinster house,Have they nothing better to be doing in there and that's a lot of dialing.

Victor

later10 wrote: »

It isn 't that there is nothing wrong here, I just find the image of J.H.R. sitting at his desk in Oireachtas Eireann re-dialling and re-dialling a phone-in reality tv show pretty amusing.

I honestly think it might have been worse and someone was paid to do it.

kenco

Let's find out what happened here in this case first before we go nuts

What we should be going nuts in is how the hell you can dial premium numbers from DE or any other state org. The cost of these numbers normally mean they are blocked in the private sector.

Put MHR to one side for now. What I would like to know is how much has been spent on prem nos from DE for say the last 12 months and then also what the spend has been for all of the public sector

Tin Foil Hat

realies wrote: »

He wont be resigning over it and all he can say is that the calls came from leinster house,Have they nothing better to be doing in there and that's a lot of dialing.

The suggestion is that it was done using some kind of repeat dial divice/software. I find it highly unlikely that the obvious suspect was able to manage to set that up on his own. He doesn't strike me as as much of a tekkie.

bamboozle

Gombeen Junior was on Newstalk this morning defending himself cause every penny went to charity, the poor fella didnt seem to realise that idiotic and arrogant waste of tax payers money cannot be justified by saying it went to charity.....at least thats what i think he was saying, he always ramps up the accent when on de wireless.

Between himself and the bull the voters of Kerry South could do us all a favour and not vote in the next election.

BaZmO*

Did we really need any more proof?

lastlaugh

bamboozle wrote: »

Gombeen Junior was on Newstalk this morning defending himself cause every penny went to charity, the poor fella didnt seem to realise that idiotic and arrogant waste of tax payers money cannot be justified by saying it went to charity.....at least thats what i think he was saying, he always ramps up the accent when on de wireless.

Between himself and the bull the voters of Kerry South could do us all a favour and not vote in the next election.

I was listening to that earlier and I couldn't believe he was actually being serious.

Is he a complete idiot or what?

GSF

Do we think it will hurt his dad's chances of becoming President? :eek: How's that campaign going these days anyway?

ednwireland

bamboozle wrote: »

Gombeen Junior was on Newstalk this morning defending himself cause every penny went to charity, the poor fella didnt seem to realise that idiotic and arrogant waste of tax payers money cannot be justified by saying it went to charity.....at least thats what i think he was saying, he always ramps up the accent when on de wireless.

Between himself and the bull the voters of Kerry South could do us all a favour and not vote in the next election.

said the same thing on morning ireland as well

kippy

later10 wrote: »

It isn 't that there is nothing wrong here, I just find the image of J.H.R. sitting at his desk in Oireachtas Eireann re-dialling and re-dialling a phone-in reality tv show pretty amusing.

What was he thinking?

Maybe the Prince of the Kerrymen enjoyed immense popularity in Leinster House?

Anyway, while a revelation of this nature might be embarrassing to some 'serious' politicians, I am sure that it will not faze Mr Healy Rae. It certainly isn 't a resigning offence, in my opinion.

Ah now,
No doubt this will be added to the long line of political inepitude and skulduggery that we have come to expect in this country and the people who carried it out will get away with it, however it certainly is a resigning offence.
While the money that is involved may be small fry in the scheme of things, at some point our politicians (and indeed we) need to start making examples of this type of behaviour. No doubt leglistation exists that these people can be charged with.
If this is let go, like everything else, we've shown that we've learned nothing from the past and are willing to accept the same future. I'd love to see a complete review of all of these Healy Rae expenses in the past few years (as well as some other politicians as well to be honest). If this type of thing was done who knows what other stuff was goin on.

Nijmegen

This is just another small example of the malignant rot at the centre of Irish power that eminates outwards and permiates the entire structure.

Why are premium numbers not banned from official phones, anyway?

I wouldn't be looking for a resignation, but I would be looking for premium numbers to be blocked from those phones and him possibly paying the money back or donating a personal amount himself to charity as a gesture?

BaZmO*

bluewolf wrote: »

I wouldn't be looking for a resignation, but I would be looking for premium numbers to be blocked from those phones and him possibly paying the money back or donating a personal amount himself to charity as a gesture?

:eek:

So you're saying that you want him to essentially admit that he's in the wrong by paying the money back but he shouldn't be punished for it? Absolutely shocking tbh.

That's one of the biggest problems with Irish Politics, absolutely no accountability.

kippy

bluewolf wrote: »

I wouldn't be looking for a resignation, but I would be looking for premium numbers to be blocked from those phones and him possibly paying the money back or donating a personal amount himself to charity as a gesture?

Thats not the standard we should expect from our elected representatives.
Yep - block premium rate numbers if that is required (there may be a reason they aren't)
Giving the money back or donating to charity - fcuk that. If this hadnt been reported we'd never have known. God only knows what other skullduggery is going on.

mike65

Nijmegen wrote: »

This is just another small example of the malignant rot at the centre of Irish power that eminates outwards and permiates the entire structure.

Why are premium numbers not banned from official phones, anyway?

It was mentioned at 9 that the premium rate lines were now blocked.

flanzer

GSF wrote: »

Do we think it will hurt his dad's chances of becoming President? :eek: How's that campaign going these days anyway?

Thank fook the whole country votes for the President and not just the people of Kerry

bijapos

The problem is, as Michael Healy-Rae stated that he was on the programme for the whole week, and can thus prove he was nowhere near Dublin, let alone Dail Eireann for the week. Its has obviously been arranged by someone who knows him but if it was his father he is long gone out of the Dail. I'm afraid the only people who can do anything here are the voters of South Kerry

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

The suggestion is that it was done using some kind of repeat dial divice/software. I find it highly unlikely that the obvious suspect was able to manage to set that up on his own. He doesn't strike me as as much of a tekkie.

The problem is that people like yourself totally underestimate people like Michael H-R, they are usually written off as country buffoons coming up to Dublin and being totally confused by the "big schmoke". Its an image they love to project and nurture. It works both ways: some people believe them to be idiots and thus incapable of installing, or arranging for installation of a basic computer programme. They are intelligent people, they would not be where they are if it were not for some cunning and intelligence.

Secondly, they can nurture this image at home in Kerry with the whole "them against us" and "look at what the media are writing about us, we are the only people who ye can trust".

Its essentially a win-win situation for them living off peoples gullibility.

BaZmO*

BaZmO* wrote: »

:eek:

So you're saying that you want him to essentially admit that he's in the wrong by paying the money back but he shouldn't be punished for it? Absolutely shocking tbh.

That's one of the biggest problems with Irish Politics, absolutely no accountability.

Given everything else that's happened then I think resigning is a bit much for abuse of the phone lines?
What else do you think should happen or do you think he should resign too? And how likely is that given that as someone else said, he was nowhere near Dublin anyway so nobody could prove it?

Nijmegen

mike65 wrote: »

It was mentioned at 9 that the premium rate lines were now blocked.

Just a pity that it takes reaction to something going wrong for things to be fixed.

Proactivity. We've heard of it.

BaZmO*

bijapos wrote: »

The problem is that people like yourself totally underestimate people like Michael H-R, they are usually written off as country buffoons coming up to Dublin and being totally confused by the "big schmoke". Its an image they love to project and nurture.

George W Bush pulled that stunt for 8 years. While he certainly wasn't a Grade A student, he liked to portray the 'country bumpkin good ol American boy' image. His father was the president of America ffs! He was far from humble average joe kinda guy, he was a spoiled rich kid.

bluewolf wrote: »

Given everything else that's happened then I think resigning is a bit much for abuse of the phone lines?
What else do you think should happen or do you think he should resign too? And how likely is that given that as someone else said, he was nowhere near Dublin anyway so nobody could prove it?

No. If it's proved that he anything to do with it (which I'd imagine it'd be nigh on impossible to do) he should be sacked, never mind resign. Does it really show good judgement?

HellFireClub

People on here may recall a few posts I made in this thead:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056289400

I mentioned the huge difficulties I had finding a job, (I couldn't), I then mentioned the huge difficulties I had finding 3K of a LOAN, for seed capital for my business that I decided to start up after being unable to find a job.

I talked about the irrational and insane public policies that tell a person to shut up and stay on 188 Euro a week, (just under 10K a year), rather than faciliate that person to create a position of employment for themselves and save the state 10K a year in social welfare payments, and up to another 10K in income tax and pay related taxtation. I talked about the massive and soul shaking frustration that I came to associate with this dog pound like situation that I found myself in, where the answer everywehere was, "sorry, we have no fund's to lend to help any small business starting up"...

So we have no money for small businesses, but we have 2,636 Euro of taxpayers money to pay for a gombeen arséhole politician to be elected onto an RTE celebrity show???

Outraged, disgusted, close to throwing up over this laptop, are not strong enough words for how I feel after reading this. This is nothing less than sick. Leave me and my gripe above out of it if you wish, I'm sure there are people in hospitals waiting for operations or kids in schools who are having Special Needs Assistant's taken away from them, who this kind of money would make a very real difference to.

When are the people of Ireland going to wake up to this, what does someone in public office actually have to do, to get a reaction from the Irish people??? This Healy Rae toss pot has a brass neck to such an extent, that he doesn't even see the wrong in any of this, he think's it's grand because ultimately the money (or some of it), goes to charity!!!

The man must have no shame, I hope Karma takes care of him.

Cookie_Monster

^^Post of the day right there^^

Tin Foil Hat

bijapos wrote: »

The problem is, as Michael Healy-Rae stated that he was on the programme for the whole week, and can thus prove he was nowhere near Dublin, let alone Dail Eireann for the week. Its has obviously been arranged by someone who knows him but if it was his father he is long gone out of the Dail. I'm afraid the only people who can do anything here are the voters of South Kerry





The problem is that people like yourself totally underestimate people like Michael H-R, they are usually written off as country buffoons coming up to Dublin and being totally confused by the "big schmoke". Its an image they love to project and nurture. It works both ways: some people believe them to be idiots and thus incapable of installing, or arranging for installation of a basic computer programme. They are intelligent people, they would not be where they are if it were not for some cunning and intelligence.

Secondly, they can nurture this image at home in Kerry with the whole "them against us" and "look at what the media are writing about us, we are the only people who ye can trust".

Its essentially a win-win situation for them living off peoples gullibility.

All well and good, except that MHR clearly wasn't the target of that comment. As you say yourself, he was nowhere near Dublin.

goat2

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

^^Post of the day right there^^

if a person were to spend that kind of money on phonecalls that were not of importance, such as these phone ins were, working for someone in the private sector, it would be firing on the spot, and rightly so

HellFireClub

goat2 wrote: »

if a person were to spend that kind of money on phonecalls that were not of importance, such as these phone ins were, working for someone in the private sector, it would be firing on the spot, and rightly so

But not before being handed the bill for the incident and rightly so. You'd be lucky if the Gardai were not notified or a solicitor was brought in as you had cost the company serious money and could have put the company in serious danger through you breaching your terms & conditions of employment by abusing company assets, (in the event that 2,636 Euro could not be recovered from you).

BaZmO*

HellFireClub wrote: »

But not before being handed the bill for the incident and rightly so. You'd be lucky if the Gardai were not notified or a solicitor was brought in as you had cost the company serious money and could have put the company in serious danger through you breaching your terms & conditions of employment by abusing company assets, (in the event that 2,636 Euro could not be recovered from you).

And all that's assuming that a private company would be dumb enough to not block premium rate numbers of course.

goat2

bijapos wrote: »

The problem is, as Michael Healy-Rae stated that he was on the programme for the whole week, and can thus prove he was nowhere near Dublin, let alone Dail Eireann for the week. Its has obviously been arranged by someone who knows him but if it was his father he is long gone out of the Dail. I'm afraid the only people who can do anything here are the voters of South Kerry





The problem is that people like yourself totally underestimate people like Michael H-R, they are usually written off as country buffoons coming up to Dublin and being totally confused by the "big schmoke". Its an image they love to project and nurture. It works both ways: some people believe them to be idiots and thus incapable of installing, or arranging for installation of a basic computer programme. They are intelligent people, they would not be where they are if it were not for some cunning and intelligence.

Secondly, they can nurture this image at home in Kerry with the whole "them against us" and "look at what the media are writing about us, we are the only people who ye can trust".

Its essentially a win-win situation for them living off peoples gullibility.

i dont have issues with mhr, in fact i like him, have nothing against him, i know that he was not near dublin at time of calls, and that he was taking part in programme, but i do have issues with the person who picked up the phone and made that number of calls on behalf of the tax payer, this is terrible, as a matter of fact the taxpayers were making their won calls to vote for who ever they wished to win this show, who gave permession for this nonsense

bryaner

lastlaugh wrote: »

I was listening to that earlier and I couldn't believe he was actually being serious.

Is he a complete idiot or what?

The idiot's are the people that vote these mountain men in..

HellFireClub

BaZmO* wrote: »

And all that's assuming that a private company would be dumb enough to not block premium rate numbers of course.

You just wouldn't dare do it in the first place, it might not be just your own job that goes down, with businesses being so delicate at the moment, you could put a company out of business with a 2,636 Euro phone bill FRAUD. But of course, in Lenister House, there isn't an invoice that is rejected or handing back to the person who generated it, the little system just keep's stamping away, with their "for the file" mentality.

Of course, the people of South Kerry are clealy too fúcking stupid to see that the 500,000 people on the dole, that's equally enough distributed around the country, the company closures, the hospital ward closures, the SNA's being taken out of primary schools, all down to a lack of public funds, this affects them in their constituency as much as it does anyone else in the country living in any other constituency.

They don't seem to have the intelligence to work out that when one of their own p*sses 2,636 Euro all over the place, or causes that to happen, then this is 2,636 Euro that is taken out of the system that is unavailable to run schools, hospitals, etc.

Nijmegen

The quotes from both Healy-Rae's indicate that neither of them know how the calls happened.

The Oireachtas ought now to publish the call logs to tell us where internally the calls came from.

If they're lying, then this is a bigger issue.

runawaybishop

I enjoyed how he refused to condemn the waste of taxpayers money, and how he also didn't have time to speak to his Dad about it, yet managed to go on 3(?) radio programs. Evasive answering at its best.

HellFireClub

goat2 wrote: »

i dont have issues with mhr, in fact i like him, have nothing against him, i know that he was not near dublin at time of calls, and that he was taking part in programme, but i do have issues with the person who picked up the phone and made that number of calls on behalf of the tax payer, this is terrible, as a matter of fact the taxpayers were making their won calls to vote for who ever they wished to win this show, who gave permession for this nonsense

But as for gombeen knuckle dragging gobshíte Healy-Rae being the ONLY PERSON who stood to benefit from this incident, by selfishly seeking to raise his profile, costing the taxpayer 2,636 Euro, you can't make the connection between Healy-Rae, who has clearly conspired with some person who is presently unknown, to make these calls, which has cost the taxpayer 2,636 Euro, you don't have any issue there, no???

BaZmO*

HellFireClub wrote: »

Healy-Rae, who has clearly conspired with some person who is presently unknown, to make these calls, which has cost the taxpayer 2,636 Euro,

That's the thing though, even if Healy-Rae has nothing to do with it, there's someone in government buildings that took it upon themselves to make these phone calls and at the very least that person(s) needs to be taken to task.

JimsAlterEgo

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's the thing though, even if Healy-Rae has nothing to do with it, there's someone in government buildings that took it upon themselves to make these phone calls and at the very least that person(s) needs to be taken to FIRED.

FYP

goat2

HellFireClub wrote: »

But as for gombeen knuckle dragging gobshíte Healy-Rae being the ONLY PERSON who stood to benefit from this incident, by selfishly seeking to raise his profile, costing the taxpayer 2,636 Euro, you can't make the connection between Healy-Rae, who has clearly conspired with some person who is presently unknown, to make these calls, which has cost the taxpayer 2,636 Euro, you don't have any issue there, no???

i do have a big issue with the person who spent badly needed money on something that was not important, and was not of benefit to the taxpayer, it makes me sick

HellFireClub

The whole sway and tone here yet again is: "It wasn't me, I know nothing, nothing to do with me, let's move on"...

This is a fraud, a fraud upon the taxpayer, why have Gardai not been called in to investigate this???

And also, this happened back in 1007, it's now half way into 2011, why a 4 year delay in discovering this???

Liam Byrne

Nijmegen wrote: »

The quotes from both Healy-Rae's indicate that neither of them know how the calls happened.

Even if the above is the truth, the fact that Michael Healy-Rae refuses to admit that it was wrong is indictment enough of his inability to treat the taxpayer with anything but contempt.

HellFireClub

goat2 wrote: »

i do have a big issue with the person who spent badly needed money on something that was not important, and was not of benefit to the taxpayer, it makes me sick

But Healy Rae is trying to put distance between this incident and himself, but he is clearly the only person who stood to benefit from over 3,000 phone calls being made to a preemium rate number from Leinster House. It should not be tolerated for one second, that he can even dare to try to tell taxpayers that because he was up on a mountain somewhere, that it has nothing to do with him.

This kind of retarded logic might be well received by the people down in his South Kerry constituency, but it doesn't wash with me for one second.

goat2

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Even if the above is the truth, the fact that Michael Healy-Rae refuses to admit that it was wrong is indictment enough of his inability to treat the taxpayer with anything but contempt.

the healy raes are in business themselves, with shop, pub and machinery business, i wonder would they accept their staff spending this kind of money on phonecalls on no importance to their businesses at their expense, without their permission