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    #1262
    croker1
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    Cork team to face Tipp, Sunday @ 4pm.

    A Nash; S O'Neill, B Murphy, C O'Sullivan; T Kenny, E Cadogan, W Egan; D Sweetnam, L McLoughlin; C Lehane, P Cronin, C Naughton; J Coughlan, P O'Sullivan, P Horgan

    Few changes from the league final. To be expected though given the time off and amount of training since


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    #1263
    lala88
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    Sean Og and John Gardiner dropped by Cork, i assume they will be releasing a statement that they are going on strike.


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    #1264
    lukin
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    croker1 wrote: »
    Cork team to face Tipp, Sunday @ 4pm.

    A Nash; S O'Neill, B Murphy, C O'Sullivan; T Kenny, E Cadogan, W Egan; D Sweetnam, L McLoughlin; C Lehane, P Cronin, C Naughton; J Coughlan, P O'Sullivan, P Horgan

    Few changes from the league final. To be expected though given the time off and amount of training since

    I think I'm right in saying that the only link on that team to the "strike era" is Tom Kenny (and I fully expect him to be substituted before the end of sunday's game).
    Truly the end of an era.


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    #1265
    yomtea98
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    Coleman dropped of the panel altogether.That is a fair kick in the pants.A bit harsh I thought


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    #1266
    willietherock
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    lukin wrote: »
    I think I'm right in saying that the only link on that team to the "strike era" is Tom Kenny (and I fully expect him to be substituted before the end of sunday's game).
    Truly the end of an era.

    Around 1/3rd to half that side were around for the strikes, on the panel.


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    #1267
    realdanbreen
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    Where will the Tipp v Waterford munster final be held ?:cool:


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    #1268
    SeaFields
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Where will the Tipp v Waterford munster final be held ?:cool:

    Never Never Land :cool:


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    #1269
    beeroclock
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Where will the Tipp v Waterford munster final be held ?:cool:

    Yer actually playing them in the semis:

    http://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/minor/


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    #1270
    ShamoBuc
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    Great to see the team mixed up a little. Keeps if a bit fresh. The bench is also very strong. Looking forward to seeing how the midfielders get on in particular!


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    #1271
    realdanbreen
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    I hope the youngsters playing for Cork next Sunday don't freeze up at the sight of the blue & gold!:cool:


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    #1272
    The_Kew_Tour
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I hope the youngsters playing for Cork next Sunday don't freeze up at the sight of the blue & gold!:cool:

    I cant ever remember it happening.

    The years ye have beat us have been years ye were expected to win in last few meetings.


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    #1273
    teednab-el
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    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I hope the youngsters playing for Cork next Sunday don't freeze up at the sight of the blue & gold!:cool:

    I cant ever remember it happening.

    The years ye have beat us have been years ye were expected to win in last few meetings.

    Lads I'm I the only one here who reckons Cork will beat Tipp on Sunday? Cork are underdogs in their own backyard, they will murder Tipp in that case and Tipp have a very poor record of beating Cork in the pairc. Remember 2010? Tipp won in 2008 in the pairc but Cork didn't have a full panel due to the strike. Fully confident Cork will win by about 2-3 points.


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    #1274
    teednab-el
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    eigrod wrote: »
    It was crazy the way the RTE pundits were writing off Kerry last Sunday. Will they ever learn ? I remember a few years ago Kevin McStay doing the same thing after Kerry were beaten, his exact words being "Kerry are in a very bad place now". They were far from finished then, and they're far from finished now.

    If Kerry stay in it until August, no matter how they struggle or scrape through the qualifiers, they will be very very difficult to beat and I don't think Conor Counihan would be relishing meeting them at QF, SF or Final stage.

    Cork, Dublin & Kerry still the 3 best teams in Ireland. I expect the AI champions to come from those 3, with Kildare and Tyrone the only ones with an outside chance. Mayo may surprise one of the above teams in the QF or SF again, but history suggests that they simply can't do it two games in a row.

    If Kerry get handy qualfiers they usually do, they will win the All Ireland.


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    #1275
    teednab-el
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    lala88 wrote: »
    Sean Og and John Gardiner dropped by Cork, i assume they will be releasing a statement that they are going on strike.

    Oh STFU!.


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    #1276
    lala88
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    If Kerry get handy qualfiers they usually do, they will win the All Ireland.

    Ya because its fixed for them to get handy draws isn't it? Cork got there fair share of handy draws in 2010 when they won, wonder how worried you were about that


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    #1277
    lala88
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    Lads I'm I the only one here who reckons Cork will beat Tipp on Sunday? Cork are underdogs in their own backyard, they will murder Tipp in that case and Tipp have a very poor record of beating Cork in the pairc. Remember 2010? Tipp won in 2008 in the pairc but Cork didn't have a full panel due to the strike. Fully confident Cork will win by about 2-3 points.

    And whos fault is that?


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    #1278
    teednab-el
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    lala88 wrote: »
    Ya because its fixed for them to get handy draws isn't it? Cork got there fair share of handy draws in 2010 when they won, wonder how worried you were about that

    You call Dublin a handy draw? We met them in the semi and beat them, a game in which they should have won. Down were a good side too who beat the 2009 All Ireland champions Kerry and beat Kildare a side who I feel will win an All Ireland soon. Limerick weren't bad that year and would put it up to most teams.


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    #1279
    teednab-el
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    lala88 wrote: »
    And whos fault is that?

    Frank and the CCB. That is history now and its over with, there has been strikes in other counties too as well that you somehow failed to bring up.


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    #1280
    teednab-el
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    Kerry with Brian Sheehan back and a bit of tough love through the qualifiers will leave both the boyos from Cork and Dublin licking their wounds and ruing what might have been. It is ten years ago this summer that I witnessed history and saw Kerry play Cork and hammer the daylights out of them in Croke Park by 15 points. Since then the sides have met a dozen or so times and Cork can only ever beat Kerry in Pairc ui Chaoimh and Kerry have defeated them there before also most lately in 2010. Cork won the All-Ireland in 2010 but they were beaten by Kerry that year.

    Cork will not beat Kerry again this year and they'd want to hope some other team might beat Kerry because if the red and white lays before the men from the Kingdom in Croke Park there will only ever be one outcome and it will not be pretty if you are from Cork. Kerry have now nicely disappeared off peoples radar just like in 2009 when we snuck in and mugged Cork when they thought it was all over. A dodgy refereeing decision in 2011 cost us another All-Ireland, are we bothered? We are from Kerry we will always be there or thereabouts, the fact that Dublin and Cork both won their All-Ireland's by 1 points says alot of their teams. Kerry on the other hand will be Kerry so beware the wounded beast, Corks victory will prove Pyrrhic wheras a Kerry win would have set the stage for complacency and ultimate failure. Cork may have won the 1st battle but they and Dublin will ultimately lose the war.

    Stnicker you are entertaining! Your right I agree...... Well done KERRY ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS 2012! Cork or Dublin havent a hope, they should drop out of championship now.


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    #1281
    ShamoBuc
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    Stnicker you are entertaining! Your right I agree...... Well done KERRY ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS 2012! Cork or Dublin havent a hope, they should drop out of championship now.

    But at least we all know that if Kerry don't win the AI - it will be the refs fault:pac:


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    #1282
    teednab-el
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Stnicker you are entertaining! Your right I agree...... Well done KERRY ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS 2012! Cork or Dublin havent a hope, they should drop out of championship now.

    But at least we all know that if Kerry don't win the AI - it will be the refs fault:pac:

    The refs fault is right of if not it will be the wasp. There is only so many times though Kerry can go to the well. Their team was much younger and better in 2006 and 2009. It is now 2012 and a lot of mileage on many players. A good tough qualifier facing someone like Donegal, Kildare , Dublin, Tyrone or Armagh would tell me all I need to know about this present Kerry team and if they got through then I would be worried. Though I'm feeling confident that if Cork meet them before the All Ireland final, we can beat them too.


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    #1283
    D'Agger
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    But at least we all know that if Kerry don't win the AI - it will be the refs fault:pac:
    If anything I though Kerry people took the defeat well last year considering.

    I don't rate Kerry this year tbh - I'd be suprised to see us vying for the title but you never know, and I don't buy into this 'beware the wounded beast' horseshít either fwiw


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    #1284
    D'Agger
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    The refs fault is right of if not it will be the wasp. There is only so many times though Kerry can go to the well. Their team was much younger and better in 2006 and 2009. It is now 2012 and a lot of mileage on many players

    While the argument is understandable - Kerry have far more young players in the panel this time around who can make a difference - BJK, James O'Donoghue, Peter Crowley, Dathaí Casey etc. - the difference in the team is that we have players beginning to slow down and these young players aren't quite ready to take up the mantle imo


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    #1285
    lala88
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    You call Dublin a handy draw? We met them in the semi and beat them, a game in which they should have won. Down were a good side too who beat the 2009 All Ireland champions Kerry and beat Kildare a side who I feel will win an All Ireland soon. Limerick weren't bad that year and would put it up to most teams.

    What about Cavan, Wexford and Roscommon? If Kerry beat them along the won to winning an All Ireland all we would hear is that it was another soft All Ireland. Also Cork played Dublin and Down when there was no draw


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    #1286
    lala88
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    Frank and the CCB. That is history now and its over with, there has been strikes in other counties too as well that you somehow failed to bring up.

    Name another county that have gone on strike 3 times?


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    #1287
    The_Kew_Tour
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    lala88 wrote: »
    Name another county that have gone on strike 3 times?

    he did not mention counties having 3 strikes, just strikes.


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    yomtea98
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    Lads I'm I the only one here who reckons Cork will beat Tipp on Sunday? Cork are underdogs in their own backyard, they will murder Tipp in that case and Tipp have a very poor record of beating Cork in the pairc. Remember 2010? Tipp won in 2008 in the pairc but Cork didn't have a full panel due to the strike. Fully confident Cork will win by about 2-3 points.
    Why are you so confident?What is it based on ?League counts for nothing in championship.A close game with Tipp to win by 2.


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    #1289
    ShamoBuc
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    yomtea98 wrote: »
    Why are you so confident?What is it based on ?League counts for nothing in championship.A close game with Tipp to win by 2.

    Why are you so confident?What is it based on ?League counts for nothing in championship:pac:


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    #1290
    teednab-el
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    yomtea98 wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Lads I'm I the only one here who reckons Cork will beat Tipp on Sunday? Cork are underdogs in their own backyard, they will murder Tipp in that case and Tipp have a very poor record of beating Cork in the pairc. Remember 2010? Tipp won in 2008 in the pairc but Cork didn't have a full panel due to the strike. Fully confident Cork will win by about 2-3 points.
    Why are you so confident?What is it based on ?League counts for nothing in championship.A close game with Tipp to win by 2.

    We have the Indian sign over Tipp in Pairc UI chaoimh. They have only won there twice in like 80 years.


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    #1291
    lala88
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    We have the Indian sign over Tipp in Pairc UI chaoimh. They have only won there twice in like 80 years.

    How many times have they played each other there in the last 80 years?


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