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€25k invested in prize bonds

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,017 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Been off sick the last couple of weeks so haven’t been on here.
    Nothing the last two weeks for me. Last win last October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,717 ✭✭✭abff


    I've expanded my earlier table to show the number of days between wins. Three of these were double wins and one was a triple, making a total of 1.85% over a period of 3 years and 10 months. This is an annualised return of 0.48% and is definitely better than the return I would have received if I had put this money on deposit.

    You will also notice that the pattern is quite irregular, with one gap of 175 days between wins and a fallow period in 2018 when I only had two wins in 37 weeks. But there was also a great run in 2019 where I had 10 wins between February and July.

    Date|Days|New Bonds|Per Day
    05/05/2017
    19/05/2017 | 14 | 103,539,691 | 7,395,692
    02/06/2017 | 14 | 103,713,608 | 7,408,115
    21/07/2017 | 49 | 312,307,380 | 6,373,620
    01/09/2017 | 42 | 260,208,161 | 6,195,432
    03/11/2017 | 63 | 363,631,083 | 5,771,922
    08/12/2017 | 35 | 208,144,809 | 5,946,995
    22/12/2017 | 14 | 103,826,840 | 7,416,203
    12/01/2018 | 21 | 78,472,968 | 3,736,808
    27/04/2018 | 105 | 676,274,174 | 6,440,706
    28/09/2018 | 154 | 1,065,663,998 | 6,919,896
    02/11/2018 | 35 | 207,647,554 | 5,932,787
    01/02/2019 | 91 | 598,650,240 | 6,578,574
    15/02/2019 | 14 | 103,331,219 | 7,380,801
    08/03/2019 | 21 | 130,250,694 | 6,202,414
    29/03/2019 | 21 | 129,777,682 | 6,179,890
    05/04/2019 | 7 | 51,885,267 | 7,412,181
    03/05/2019 | 28 | 156,394,156 | 5,585,506
    31/05/2019 | 28 | 155,511,576 | 5,553,985
    07/06/2019 | 7 | 26,072,415 | 3,724,631
    14/06/2019 | 7 | 26,481,363 | 3,783,052
    12/07/2019 | 28 | 155,662,741 | 5,559,384
    03/01/2020 | 175 | 1,066,460,082 | 6,094,058
    03/04/2020 | 91 | 806,211,665 | 8,859,469
    24/04/2020 | 21 | 155,885,610 | 7,423,124
    01/05/2020 | 7 | 52,134,834 | 7,447,833
    08/05/2020 | 7 | 51,263,194 | 7,323,313
    10/07/2020 | 63 | 520,030,794 | 8,254,457
    24/07/2020 | 14 | 78,611,529 | 5,615,109
    20/11/2020 | 119 | 1,014,012,705 | 8,521,115
    23/12/2020 | 33 | 337,340,758 | 10,222,447
    08/01/2021 | 16 | 78,432,523 | 4,902,033
    05/03/2021 | 56 | 623,964,305 | 11,142,220


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭John arse


    abff wrote: »
    I've expanded my earlier table to show the number of days between wins. Three of these were double wins and one was a triple, making a total of 1.85% over a period of 3 years and 10 months. This is an annualised return of 0.48% and is definitely better than the return I would have received if I had put this money on deposit.

    You will also notice that the pattern is quite irregular, with one gap of 175 days between wins and a fallow period in 2018 when I only had two wins in 37 weeks. But there was also a great run in 2019 where I had 10 wins between February and July.

    Date|Days|New Bonds|Per Day
    05/05/2017
    19/05/2017 | 14 | 103,539,691 | 7,395,692
    02/06/2017 | 14 | 103,713,608 | 7,408,115
    21/07/2017 | 49 | 312,307,380 | 6,373,620
    01/09/2017 | 42 | 260,208,161 | 6,195,432
    03/11/2017 | 63 | 363,631,083 | 5,771,922
    08/12/2017 | 35 | 208,144,809 | 5,946,995
    22/12/2017 | 14 | 103,826,840 | 7,416,203
    12/01/2018 | 21 | 78,472,968 | 3,736,808
    27/04/2018 | 105 | 676,274,174 | 6,440,706
    28/09/2018 | 154 | 1,065,663,998 | 6,919,896
    02/11/2018 | 35 | 207,647,554 | 5,932,787
    01/02/2019 | 91 | 598,650,240 | 6,578,574
    15/02/2019 | 14 | 103,331,219 | 7,380,801
    08/03/2019 | 21 | 130,250,694 | 6,202,414
    29/03/2019 | 21 | 129,777,682 | 6,179,890
    05/04/2019 | 7 | 51,885,267 | 7,412,181
    03/05/2019 | 28 | 156,394,156 | 5,585,506
    31/05/2019 | 28 | 155,511,576 | 5,553,985
    07/06/2019 | 7 | 26,072,415 | 3,724,631
    14/06/2019 | 7 | 26,481,363 | 3,783,052
    12/07/2019 | 28 | 155,662,741 | 5,559,384
    03/01/2020 | 175 | 1,066,460,082 | 6,094,058
    03/04/2020 | 91 | 806,211,665 | 8,859,469
    24/04/2020 | 21 | 155,885,610 | 7,423,124
    01/05/2020 | 7 | 52,134,834 | 7,447,833
    08/05/2020 | 7 | 51,263,194 | 7,323,313
    10/07/2020 | 63 | 520,030,794 | 8,254,457
    24/07/2020 | 14 | 78,611,529 | 5,615,109
    20/11/2020 | 119 | 1,014,012,705 | 8,521,115
    23/12/2020 | 33 | 337,340,758 | 10,222,447
    08/01/2021 | 16 | 78,432,523 | 4,902,033
    05/03/2021 | 56 | 623,964,305 | 11,142,220
    not really relevant the time between wins when you don't say how many bonds you have,ie 25k should win 1-2 times a year,250k 13 times a year etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,717 ✭✭✭abff


    I didn't think it was necessary to say how many bonds I had, as I quoted an overall return of 1.85% and you could work back from this to calculate how much I had invested. My initial investment was €100,000 and I have automatically reinvested my winnings, so I currently have a total holding of €101,850.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭John arse


    abff wrote: »
    I didn't think it was necessary to say how many bonds I had, as I quoted an overall return of 1.85% and you could work back from this to calculate how much I had invested. My initial investment was €100,000 and I have automatically reinvested my winnings, so I currently have a total holding of €101,850.
    ah didn't see that you included how many double and triple wins thereof,thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    The thing about it is that sitting in the bank you are getting nothing. Ya your gambling but you are also hoping to get some bit of a return.
    Who what?


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Andrew Flexing


    #Dry2021. No Joy.
    Kildare hits a new low of 163 winners this week.

    Jan XXXXX
    Feb XXXX
    Mar XX

    (Spare a thought for Tuis' poor Postman though) :)

    my URBAN EXPLORATION YouTube channel: https://www.facebook.com/ASMRurbanexploration/



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    That's March 05. Results are not in for the 12th, must be some delay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Agent Smyth


    A €50 win for us today from the big batch


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    No results for today available on my screen yet


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  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Agent Smyth


    Still have my fingers crossed for you


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No results for today available on my screen yet

    Same here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭carrickbawn


    €50 for me again today. Still no results for today. Must be a glitch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    €50 for me again today. Still no results for today. Must be a glitch.

    And how can you check so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    The Prize Bond Draw for the 12th of March 2021 has taken place. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.


    Note posted online


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭carrickbawn



    And how can you check so?

    It is showing in my tracker. I think the results are showing too. Just the wrong date .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    Ah I see. Well, if that's so, then my postman can take his holiday - no winner today - hope the winning glitch extends to plenty of you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭carrickbawn





    It is showing in my tracker. I think the results are showing too. Just the wrong date .

    Sorry. Wrong about the results. My win today from same batch as last week. It was last weeks win showed up in the search function.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My tracker says the information is only accurate to 5th March even searching for the date range up to today. Still hopeful ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I took a look yesterday to see how my €10K batch bought in 2007 performed since August 2017. Three wins in 2018, one in April, two in June. No wins since then. So that means someone with €20K could go for well over a year with no wins. Nothing surprising there of course, but some people think that it indicates a scam.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭maebee


    My tracker says the information is only accurate to 5th March even searching for the date range up to today. Still hopeful ;)

    Mine says the same and informs me that I had a €50 win today :D. It has to have been today as I checked last week and nada then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 808 ✭✭✭pbwinner


    Winnings on 12th March 2021: €0
    Last win 18th December 2020: €100
    Total winnings on €25k from Feb 2011 to date: €3150
    2011: €75 x 4 = €300
    2012: €75 x 6 = €450
    2013: €50 x 12 = €600
    2014: €50 x 9 = €450
    2015: €50 x 5 = €250
    2016: €50 x 5 = €250
    2017: €50 x 4 = €200
    2018: €50 x 2 = €100
    2019: €50 x 6 = €300
    2020: €50 x 5 = €250
    2021: €0


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Nothing for me today. Continuing my March count.

    Week 2. 32 million bonds AUP to AVU inclusive. Highest AUP 12, lowest AVD zero. Four other prefixes had 3, and five had 8. All prizes €50. Total wins 180, average per million 5.625. x €50 x 52 = €14625.00 / 62.50 = €234.00 expected win by €100K in a year, nearest is €250.

    32 million bonds won 4.540% of the 3965 prizes. 100% of the fund on that basis would be €4.4053 billion rounded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Nothing for me today.

    Are you sure ? When I use the find winners it shows that I have no winnings (naturally enough !) but it also states “ Up to date as of Friday 5 March 2021” so looks like today’s winnings still haven’t been uploaded.

    From memory, last time this was broken it didn’t get sorted out properly until late Sunday night, though there were a few intermittent periods of availability before that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    I'm still getting that message too .... but no lodgement to be seen so I'm not expecting anything....


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Hibernicis wrote: »
    Are you sure ? When I use the find winners it shows that I have no winnings (naturally enough !) but it also states “ Up to date as of Friday 5 March 2021” so looks like today’s winnings still haven’t been uploaded.

    From memory, last time this was broken it didn’t get sorted out properly until late Sunday night, though there were a few intermittent periods of availability before that.

    Did you see the link on the red message? It has the winners listed by bond number, and I know my numbers.

    View the Prize Bond Draw results for 12th March 2021 here. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    Our holdings are scattered from €25 (yes, €25, not €25 K) value upwards - I did check the numbers of the 3 larger batches but I haven't looked at all the 'stray' ones.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    No point looking for €25. That won't win for the next 3,867 years:)

    I could have a win from one of my reinvestments, but it is very unlikely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭PB2018


    This barren spell is lasting longer than current lockdown :)

    Wins on 12th March 2021: €0
    Last win: 18th December 2020: €50
    Weeks since last win: 12
    €134k invested in prize bonds since July 2017
    Win ratio: 24 wins in 193 weeks (12%)
    2017 (Jul-Dec): 5 x €50 = €250
    2018 (Jan-Dec): 4 x €50 = €200
    2019 (Jan-Dec): 5 x €50 = €250
    2020 (Jan-Dec): 10 x €50 = €500
    2021 (Jan-date): 0 x €50 = €0


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Did you see the link on the red message? It has the winners listed by bond number, and I know my numbers.

    View the Prize Bond Draw results for 12th March 2021 here. Due to a technical issue, the publication of the results to the website has been delayed and will be available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.

    Sorry you are of course correct. I hadn't spotted that. I think I'll wait till the system is sorted. That way I live in hope of a prize for another few hours rather spend 30 mins of my time checking manually only to confirm that my dry spell of doom is persisting !

    (However I had a peek at the top prize and can confirm that I do not own VI912965)


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