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* Biology Higher level 2011 * (one thread please)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    I think that's a positive test for diabetes or something ...not entirely sure

    oh floop it..i think thats right......darn i said yes coz they can filter through or something...
    was it no for the other answer ...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    How did you figure it out? Or did you know?

    Tis in the book lads. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I'd say it's no - all your glucose should have been reabsorbed. If glucose is found in urine, you have a fair chance of being diabetic.
    I said that too.

    For the duck question...just ugh. I said something along the lines of the females would be dormant especially if pregnant and the males would be the main hunters/providers, hence going south.
    tcurry93 wrote: »
    Anybody remember what they got for the genetic cross??

    Usually can do them so well but confused me today
    Can't remember but definitely all white flower small stem on the side of my Punnitt square.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Eggy Baby! wrote: »

    Plus you had to draw a bloody pelvis under it...wtf...
    It wasn't the actual pelvis you had to draw, it was the Renal Pelvis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Sineadlc


    A load of B****x looks like it was thrown together in a half hour tbh

    Ya like seriously t looks like a few people who never looked at an exam paper before put it together. The diagram of the nephron was ridiculous. I could have drawn a better one myself...


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Exothermic


    bradleyboy wrote: »
    was it normal to find glucose in the urine? i put yes but i wasnt 100% sure?


    No, it should be reabsorbed up by the proximal convoluted tubule. I guess if you had diabetes you would, but that's not the normal situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    doctorg wrote: »
    Where did you find that? I am pretty sure its 21. Its asked in protein not specifically for Humans.

    are there no home.ec ppl here?!?! theres 20 common amino acids!! there are more but there is only 20.. 10 essential, 10 non essentail. you didnt need to put that second bit down buts it twenty!! 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20...twenty!


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I said that too.

    For the duck question...just ugh. I said something along the lines of the females would be dormant especially if pregnant and the males would be the main hunters/providers, hence going south.


    Can't remember but definitely all white flower small stem on the side of my Punnitt square.

    your duck answer makes sense too... i say they could take a various amount of answers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭GerardB


    tcurry93 wrote: »
    Anybody remember what they got for the genetic cross??

    Usually can do them so well but confused me today :rolleyes:

    RrTt x rrtt

    f1 progeny:
    Rrtt
    RrTt
    rrTt
    rrtt

    what a paper ^^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Sineadlc wrote: »
    Ya like seriously t looks like a few people who never looked at an exam paper before put it together. The diagram of the nephron was ridiculous. I could have drawn a better one myself...

    The layout was different for other years and It was disgraceful there was nothing about the nitrogen cycle or the bones


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭G.J.


    tcurry93 wrote: »
    Anybody remember what they got for the genetic cross??

    Usually can do them so well but confused me today :rolleyes:

    I got:
    Cr - Red, Cw - White, CrCw - Pink, T - Tall, t - short

    25% Pink tall (CrCwTt)
    25% Pink short (CrCwtt)
    25% White tall (CwCwTt)
    25% White short (CwCwtt)

    Lucky, I did a cross exactly like this one last night!

    CrCwTt x CwCwtt will always come out in a 1:1:1:1 ratio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    GerardB wrote: »
    RrTt x rrtt

    f1 progeny:
    Rrtt
    RrTt
    rrTt
    rrtt

    what a paper ^^

    Thank **** :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭macskanadrag


    tcurry93 wrote: »
    Anybody remember what they got for the genetic cross??

    Usually can do them so well but confused me today :rolleyes:

    I'm amazed myself but yes, i can remember :P
    pink tall
    pink small
    white tall
    white small

    Don't tell me if it's wrong, haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 bradleyboy


    has anyone done out the questions again to get the answers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭B_Fanatic


    doctorg wrote: »
    Where did you find that? I am pretty sure its 21. Its asked in protein not specifically for Humans.

    F*ck it, I'll have a look in the book. Google is failing me miserably. I'm getting all sorts of answers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    xaoifsx wrote: »
    are there no home.ec ppl here?!?! theres 20 common amino acids!! there are more but there is only 20.. 10 essential, 10 non essentail. you didnt need to put that second bit down buts it twenty!! 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20...twenty!

    I'm a home ec person lol just shows how messed up i did in this cert 3 cheers for repeating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    I thought the QS asked how many non essential amino acids are there


  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭BrendaN_f


    The layout was different for other years and It was disgraceful there was nothing about the nitrogen cycle or the bones

    i don't know why you keep going on about the nitrogen cycle, it's such a small, obscure part of the course, why would you concentrate on it? (implying there is enough to concentrate on)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭._.


    That was a nice paper.

    The positive to that is I did very well in it (pretty sure I got my A), but the negative to that is that a lot of other people did very well in it too, which gives me less of a competitive advantage..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    BrendaN_f wrote: »
    i don't know why you keep going on about the nitrogen cycle, it's such a small, obscure part of the course, why would you concentrate on it? (implying there is enough to concentrate on)

    Our teacher told us it was worth a lot of marks and quite easy once you get your head round it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Anniefearon


    Have gotten an A in all my biology test and got an A in the mocks then the leaving cert came along...heya C- if even. I took a chance and analysed last years papers and ruled out what i thought wouldn't come up. Of course my worst nightmare came true and the 7 chapters i left out came up. :( i was able to answer the recommended amount but not at all in depth. Those questions were awful ecology wasnt nice and where in the world was human reproduction and breathing and nutrition and THE HEART!! That experiment was a load of crap as well anyone else feel my pain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    B_Fanatic wrote: »
    F*ck it, I'll have a look in the book. Google is failing me miserably. I'm getting all sorts of answers

    What exactly was the question? There are 20 amino acids, which are used in various combinations to produce every protein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MikeHough


    Very good overall i thought...
    Thought genetics were lovely and 14 and 15 were good aswell.
    very happy with it.
    Hopefully A1


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    I'm a home ec person lol just shows how messed up i did in this cert 3 cheers for repeating

    just because u didnt get that it doesnt mean ul be repeating..
    at the start i thought you said that u'll be repeating for the 3rd time.. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    MikeHough wrote: »
    14 and 15 were good

    Loved those 2 questions


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    G.J. wrote: »
    I got:

    25% Pink tall
    25% Pink short
    25% White tall
    25% White short

    Lucky, I did a cross exactly like this one last night!

    CrCwTt x CwCwtt will always come out in a 1:1:1:1 ratio.

    i didn't put the percentage, should I have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Sparticle


    What a lovely exam. It shows that the SEC is moving away from predictive questions and is actually testing broad understanding while punishing those who cram the 5 "guaranteed" chapters. :rolleyes:

    There was some iffy questions though.

    Wtf was with the ducks? I said the males needed more food because they were larger and hence went further south to warmer climes with more abundant food.

    Was that a really really big gall bladder or a liver? I thought the bile duct went to the gall bladder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Anniefearon


    Have gotten an A in all my biology test and got an A in the mocks then the leaving cert came along...heya C- if even. I took a chance and analysed last years papers and ruled out what i thought wouldn't come up. Of course my worst nightmare came true and the 7 chapters i left out came up. :( i was able to answer the recommended amount but not at all in depth. Those questions were awful ecology wasnt nice and where in the world was human reproduction and breathing and nutrition and THE HEART!! That experiment was a load of crap as well anyone else feel my pain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    Thought it was quite trick in a few places myself. Hopefully August will bear good news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭GerardB


    G.J. wrote: »
    I got:

    25% Pink tall
    25% Pink short
    25% White tall
    25% White short

    Lucky, I did a cross exactly like this one last night!

    CrCwTt x CwCwtt will always come out in a 1:1:1:1 ratio.

    ...what??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    xaoifsx wrote: »
    just because u didnt get that it doesnt mean ul be repeating..
    at the start i thought you said that u'll be repeating for the 3rd time.. :pac:

    Oh no Overall I'm not entirely sure I think I messed up a few exams .

    In my prees in the languages I went wrong in the orals .Aced them for the actual orals but Irish paper didn't go great.

    Home ec Pre - elective let me down : studied that to a T and did well in the exam

    Biology Pre - Barely passed and got 0 marks for section B . Tried all 3 experiments this time

    For the Pree I was confident and then the actual results knocked me , so I'm reluctant to predict my results this early but likelyhood is I'll be repeating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Sparticle wrote: »
    Was that a really really big gall bladder or a liver? I thought the bile duct went to the gall bladder.

    It goes to both, connecting the liver and gallbladder together and with the duodenum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Patriciamc93


    Have gotten an A in all my biology test and got an A in the mocks then the leaving cert came along...heya C- if even. I took a chance and analysed last years papers and ruled out what i thought wouldn't come up. Of course my worst nightmare came true and the 7 chapters i left out came up. :( i was able to answer the recommended amount but not at all in depth. Those questions were awful ecology wasnt nice and where in the world was human reproduction and breathing and nutrition and THE HEART!! That experiment was a load of crap as well anyone else feel my pain

    Totally! I thought that it was a really unfair paper....... there goes my A1! :(

    No full question or photo or respo! :( after all the work people put into those chapters.....genetics was a nice question and perhaps q 14 but pat from that i did not like the paper!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Hopefully August will bear good news.

    Here's to hoping


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Sparkie93


    weird paper bit of everything was thrown together i couild only answer 2 and a bit of the long questions but i done the experiments and SQ well will i pass:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭G.J.


    GerardB wrote: »
    ...what??

    We were told not to use single letters capital and lower case because it can show dominance over another.

    Cr (Red), Cw (White) and CrCw (Pink).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    anyone else feel my pain

    I feel your pain and share your tears


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    G.J. wrote: »
    We were told not to use single letters capital and lower case because it can show dominance over another.

    Cr (Red), Cw (White) and CrCw (Pink).
    You won't lose marks for it will you? I had like RrSs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭G.J.


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    You won't lose marks for it will you? I had like RrSs.

    Nah, I don't think so. Our teacher just wanted clarity on everything. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    You won't lose marks for it will you? I had like RrSs.
    No, you'll be fine i'd say. They gave you the right to choose your own symbols. So long as you defined what each letter stood for in a key before you started doing out the cross you should be ok.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 es2003


    I had RrTt. Never did it any other way.

    I hated that exam :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    You won't lose marks for it will you? I had like RrSs.

    No, you shouldn't, as long as you stated the colours of the offspring at the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 fred09


    Have gotten an A in all my biology test and got an A in the mocks then the leaving cert came along...heya C- if even. I took a chance and analysed last years papers and ruled out what i thought wouldn't come up. Of course my worst nightmare came true and the 7 chapters i left out came up. :( i was able to answer the recommended amount but not at all in depth. Those questions were awful ecology wasnt nice and where in the world was human reproduction and breathing and nutrition and THE HEART!! That experiment was a load of crap as well anyone else feel my pain

    if you were able to answer all the questions that needed to be answered you clearly didnt get a C


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭GerardB


    ohh okay. i don't really think it matters if the dominance is incomplete and you still use a small letter and a capital letter, saw a very similar example of todays one in some book i think that still used small and capital letters, as long as you get the phenotype right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    Oh no Overall I'm not entirely sure I think I messed up a few exams .

    In my prees in the languages I went wrong in the orals .Aced them for the actual orals but Irish paper didn't go great.

    Home ec Pre - elective let me down : studied that to a T and did well in the exam

    Biology Pre - Barely passed and got 0 marks for section B . Tried all 3 experiments this time

    For the Pree I was confident and then the actual results knocked me , so I'm reluctant to predict my results this early but likelyhood is I'll be repeating

    in home.ec i did good in the mock....but thats coz the teacher hinted what would come up in the elective..bad move from her..but she only did that because we hadnt even started the elective then..ugh
    in the real thing i messed up my home.ec bad..
    in biology mock i studied hard for it..just scraped a pass..
    i defo passed in this bio exam but i want an a..i worked so hard for it and i aint going to get it!!

    yeah i m not predicting my results either anymore...because i dont want to be disapointed!!
    well you dont know that you are going to repeat yet..untill you get your results!! :)
    the weird weird thing is though..i studied so so much for biology..then home.ec and they are the two exams i messed up on...so i dont know its just so weird that that happened to me!! ho hum :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭GoldRush4821


    In hindsight, it's a shame the mocks were so easy (which they were - 95%+ in both) they just didn't test us like the real exam did. The first mock I did had literally nothing on plants, maybe 1 part of a long question but this one focused very heavily on plants which people don't really like. So it just shows you, you can't think just coz you did well in the mocks that you'll do well in the LC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    xaoifsx wrote: »
    in home.ec i did good in the mock....but thats coz the teacher hinted what would come up in the elective..bad move from her..but she only did that because we hadnt even started the elective then..ugh
    in the real thing i messed up my home.ec bad..
    in biology mock i studied hard for it..just scraped a pass..
    i defo passed in this bio exam but i want an a..i worked so hard for it and i aint going to get it!!

    yeah i m not predicting my results either anymore...because i dont want to be disapointed!!
    well you dont know that you are going to repeat yet..untill you get your results!! :)
    the weird weird thing is though..i studied so so much for biology..then home.ec and they are the two exams i messed up on...so i dont know its just so weird that that happened to me!! ho hum :confused:

    Our teacher hinted about lipids coming up in our pree , as for the rest she left us to our own devices , I wrote 14 pages for English
    Home ec and Biology are the 2 subjects I studied remotely well for and its weird because I didn't study for french and Yet I know I got an A
    I have religion on the 24th and its hard to get an A in that so I'm aiming for a good c or maybe a B depends how I can cram in 8 days .
    if I predict my results or If I don't either way I'm not building my hopes up.
    If I dont get that all important FETAC course acceptance in the post tomorrow I'll be adding to the 14 % on the dole come september


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭GoldRush4821


    I didn't study for french and Yet I know I got an A

    Dangerous...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Patriciamc93


    In hindsight, it's a shame the mocks were so easy (which they were - 95%+ in both) they just didn't test us like the real exam did. The first mock I did had literally nothing on plants, maybe 1 part of a long question but this one focused very heavily on plants which people don't really like. So it just shows you, you can't think just coz you did well in the mocks that you'll do well in the LC.

    there wasn't really that much plants...... just a question (half of 11 and half of 15) in full which is usual.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    Our teacher hinted about lipids coming up in our pree , as for the rest she left us to our own devices , I wrote 14 pages for English
    Home ec and Biology are the 2 subjects I studied remotely well for and its weird because I didn't study for french and Yet I know I got an A
    I have religion on the 24th and its hard to get an A in that so I'm aiming for a good c or maybe a B depends how I can cram in 8 days .
    if I predict my results or If I don't either way I'm not building my hopes up.
    If I dont get that all important FETAC course acceptance in the post tomorrow I'll be adding to the 14 % on the dole come september

    ...weird. ya i wrote around about the same for english
    and im pretty certain that i got an a in french too..in pass though! i didnt do a tap for it really because i wasnt going to count it..and then maths messed up on me..pass.. and so it worked out in the end that i did very well in french!!
    and i have religion too...
    sorry when i was reading that i was like...this is me!! ;)
    theres no way i would repeat though..i would find some way out of not repeating with whatever i get..but i think il do okay! :o


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