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UPC 12mb/25mb/50mb/100mb BB confirmed.
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Happy Days!
When they said between 9-12 they actually meant 9:01. Just as I was stepping into the shower
Weirdly, they also sent me the same old non wireless modem as I have just sent back with the courier.
The Thompson router has USB on the back, so it may be possible to use as a NAS device or print server. Will have a poke about to see.
Oh, big thanks to bk for this thread. You should be on commission!0 -
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it's unlikely that you'll see the download speed increase without the new modem.It is strange that the upload speed has been increased but not the download speed.
the short version of why is that the 50mbps & 100mbps are using a new communications standard to allow the higher speeds, although it is all backwards compatible with existing equipment.
the theoretical maximum download speed for v2.0 of the euroDOCSIS standard is 55Mbit/s on the downstream and 30Mbit/s on the upstream, but this is a theoretical maximum and is still shared between you and some of your neighbours.
BUT the maximum available bandwidth 'per channel' on EuroDOCSIS v2.0 (what your old modem uses) is only just over 30MBit/s and the old modems & routers UPC used to give out only support the use of 1 downstream & 1 upstream channel at a time (the new thompson ones they're sending out support channel bonding up to 4 channels and v3.0 of EuroDOCSIS doesn't have a defined bonding limit at all from what i can see, so seemingly the sky is the limit
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as a result of this, 50Mbit/s is not an attainable figure on the downstream with your old modem/router if it is restricted to a single downstream channel, although 5Mbit/s on the upstream is still well within it's capabilities, so that's where you've seen the extra speed so far, until the new one arrives which supports v3.0.
there's a lot more info about DOCSIS on the wiki page if you're interested but you most likely already fell asleep reading this post as it is. :pac:0 -
you jammy dodger, i'm still waiting for him to arrive.Happy Days!
When they said between 9-12 they actually meant 9:01. Just as I was stepping into the shower
Weirdly, they also sent me the same old non wireless modem as I have just sent back with the courier.
The Thompson router has USB on the back, so it may be possible to use as a NAS device or print server. Will have a poke about to see.
Oh, big thanks to bk for this thread. You should be on commission!
from what i can see in the user manual, the USB port is only for connecting it to your PC as an alternative to ethernet or wifi and doesn't offer any other connectivity options like usb hdd's or printers, but i'm open to correction.
double big thanks to bk for all his work on the thread considering the poor guy can't actually get any of these fancy new products yet. 0 -
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its quite possible that they keep records of when each house was cabled up originally and that they think the engineer may need to come out to replace the box on the wall or something to ensure you get the correct speeds.Only snag he said an engineer would have to come out and do the install for the 50mb BB even after I told him what I read on here about it being a self install. Maybe its area dependant or something whether its a self install.
i'm just guessing though, mine's coming to do my 100mbps install sometime in the next 3 hours (fingers crossed) so i'll ask him when he's here, assuming i remember and i'm not too busy acting like an excited little schoolgirl. 0 -
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i'm itching to get it installed so i can test it.Any 100mb speedtest results yet lads, getting mine installed tomorrow so would be nice to see some figures on actual speeds, only reason I went for the 100mb line was for the increased traffic quota...
he's due any time now!
here's a nice 30mbps 'before' shot to be going on with, so it looks like i picked a good day for the upgrade, hopefully the 'after' is as close to the advertised speeds as this.
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its quite possible that they keep records of when each house was cabled up originally and that they think the engineer may need to come out to replace the box on the wall or something to ensure you get the correct speeds.
i'm just guessing though, mine's coming to do my 100mbps install sometime in the next 3 hours (fingers crossed) so i'll ask him when he's here, assuming i remember and i'm not too busy acting like an excited little schoolgirl.
Im in an apartment built in the last 4-5 years so as far as I know it's all new cables but don't mind as I only have to wait an extra couple of days, got all my extra channels already. They really need to up the auntie on this front.0 -
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(the new thompson ones they're sending out support channel bonding up to 4 channels and v3.0 of EuroDOCSIS doesn't have a defined bonding limit at all from what i can see, so seemingly the sky is the limit)[/I].
Actually the specs for the new modem suggest it can handle 8 channels downstream and 4 channels upstream
That is why I asked for someone to report on the info in the connections page on the modem. I suspect UPC are only using 4 channels down and 1 channel up.
Thus future proofing the modem to allow much higher speeds in future (250Mb/s down, 50Mb/s up should realistically be doable with this modem, of course that would require network changes).double big thanks to bk for all his work on the thread considering the poor guy can't actually get any of these fancy new products yet.
You have no idea how depressing it is to read about all you guys getting these excellent service, when I'm stuck on 10Mb/s and my neighbours not 10 meters away can get 100Mb/s UPCi'm just guessing though, mine's coming to do my 100mbps install sometime in the next 3 hours (fingers crossed) so i'll ask him when he's here, assuming i remember and i'm not too busy acting like an excited little schoolgirl. 0 -
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Actually the specs for the new modem suggest it can handle 8 channels downstream and 4 channels upstream
That is why I asked for someone to report on the info in the connections page on the modem. I suspect UPC are only using 4 channels down and 1 channel up.
Looks like you are correct:
Downstream Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Symbol rate Frequency Power SNR
1 Locked QAM256 2 5360537 2.4 dBmV 40.5 dB
2 Locked QAM256 1 5360537 2.4 dBmV 39.4 dB
3 Locked QAM256 3 5360537 2.6 dBmV 41.5 dB
4 Locked QAM256 4 5360537 2.2 dBmV 40.2 dB
5 Not Locked Unknown 0 Unknown 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB
6 Not Locked Unknown 0 Unknown 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB
7 Not Locked Unknown 0 Unknown 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB
8 Not Locked Unknown 0 Unknown 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB
Upstream Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power
1 Locked QAM16 7 5120 Ksym/sec 43.7 dBmV
2 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0.0 dBmV
3 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0.0 dBmV
4 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0.0 dBmV
Oh, and I didn't find the default config user/pass in the documentation. If anyone needs it:
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Have had the 100mb for a couple of months and its very consistant,downloading torrents at 9600kb/s or 9.6mb/s is great:D Edit:just downloaded something at 10810kb/s or 10.8mb/s
Gaming was bad for a few weeks recently,pinging 140ms to uk servers that are normally 48ms with a wired connection.Seemed to be a UPC problem only,as another Irish player on the server with UPC had identical pings.But back to normal now.
All in all fair play to UPC,pretty bulletproof service.0 -
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you're welcome to come round and play if you like?Actually the specs for the new modem suggest it can handle 8 channels downstream and 4 channels upstream
That is why I asked for someone to report on the info in the connections page on the modem. I suspect UPC are only using 4 channels down and 1 channel up.
Thus future proofing the modem to allow much higher speeds in future (250Mb/s down, 50Mb/s up should realistically be doable with this modem, of course that would require network changes).
You have no idea how depressing it is to read about all you guys getting these excellent service, when I'm stuck on 10Mb/s and my neighbours not 10 meters away can get 100Mb/s UPC
might be time to move house tho, unless you can wait to get to you?
although if you can't get UPC broadband at all, i've heard of someone in the UK who couldn't get broadband who solved the problem by canvassing his neighbours nearby (who could get it) offering to pay their broadband costs if they would let him install a point to point directional wifi link between his house and theirs so he get online via their connection.
come to think of it, i could be tempted to set up a wifi hotspot for my neighbours and offer 10 of them 1mbps wireless internet access for a fiver a month and that would almost pay the cost of my broadband and phone. 0 -
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it's the Thompson TWG870 and the user manual is online here: www.upc-cablecom.ch/original_thomson_twg870_manual.pdfSorry if this has been asked before, but anyone know the modem model number etc.
EDIT: ooh, too slow. would have posted quicker if my 100mbps was installed already. 0 -
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Just got the modem for the 50Mbs and its ticking over nicely.
I then got onto customer service and then the loyalty dept and got on the Fiber Power Ultimate €75 no bother. Great deal saving me €15 or so and getting me from 20Mbs to 50Mbs and going from basic to best tv package.0 -
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