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Transfers for next season (including transfer rumours!)

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    #1472
    Stev_o
    Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Is Richard Kahui in Japan as well? He looked like being a star about four years ago.

    He has shoulders made out of glass.


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    #1473
    siltirocker
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Seems to be the norm these days doesn't it?

    I met a fellow boardsie at a game once and he told me he started a very unrealistic rumour about Munster. And that it turned up in the Independent a day or two later.


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    #1474
    SimmerDean
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    Racing Metro expected to announce Johan Goosen signing tomorrow


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    #1475
    Yeah_Right
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    Tikoiratuma from the Chiefs is off to Quins.


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    #1476
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    Mike Brown, Tikoiratuma and Yarde is a very potent back-three.


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    #1477
    former legend
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    Serious business done by Racing Metro; confirmed that Yoann Audrin, Brice Dulin, Johan Goosen, Antonie Claasen, Anton Peikrishvili, Teddy Thomas, Casey Laulala and Luke Charteris are all joining for next season.


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    #1478
    Winters
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    Wow, that's a lot of new names again. They will show improvements again next season but having such a big turnover cant be easy for continuity.


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    #1479
    .ak
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    Couple of guys there will really make a big impact, especially in the backs. Imhoff and Hernandez are top notch players but have the flakey gene imo. Dulin, Lualala and Goosen will give them some serious options there.

    A possible starting backline of

    Machenaud
    Sexton
    Imhoff
    Roberts
    Lualala
    Hernandez
    Dulin


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    #1480
    former legend
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    Winters wrote: »
    Wow, that's a lot of new names again. They will show improvements again next season but having such a big turnover cant be easy for continuity.

    They're clearing out some of the guys who have contributed nothing; the likes of Tongaui'ha, Mujati, Estebanez. Wiesnewski and Fall are gone too but probably replaced by better players.

    I think Racing will definitely be stronger next season.


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    #1481
    thomond2006
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    .ak wrote: »
    Couple of guys there will really make a big impact, especially in the backs. Imhoff and Hernandez are top notch players but have the flakey gene imo. Dulin, Lualala and Goosen will give them some serious options there.

    A possible starting backline of

    Machenaud
    Sexton
    Imhoff
    Roberts
    Lualala
    Hernandez
    Dulin

    Hernandez on the wing? I reckon he'll be a benching utility back with Dulin as cover for the wing. Thomas or Andreu should be the other starting winger.

    Claassen as a number eight is a brilliant signing for them, top player.

    I'll be intrigued to see how Laulala goes. He is past his prime and Chavancy is a good 13 in his prime now.


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    #1482
    CatFromHue
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    Yeah I wouldn't be over the moon in signing Lualala though he will link up with Roberts again!


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    #1483
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny


    La Rochelle signed Stormers 10 Peter Grant and Tahs wing Alofa Alofa


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    #1484
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Good signings. Alofa is a good winger and Grant is a really good place kicker. He had a crazily good season with the Stormers a coupe of years ago. 50 out of 54.


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    #1485
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »
    La Rochelle signed Stormers 10 Peter Grant and Tahs wing Alofa Alofa

    The rate it's going SA super rugby will be a joke. As it is only the sharks are likely to reach the playoffs. The rand is just so weak. How JdV & BdP are still playing in SA I'm amazed.

    The SARFU opened the floodgates and the masses have poured thru. A dime a dozen for a sarfie in your team soon.


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    #1486
    porterbelly
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    La Rochelle signed Jason Eaton as well


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    #1487
    Swiwi.
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    porterbelly wrote: »
    La Rochelle signed Jason Eaton as well

    So much promise, ultimately unrealised. In his breakthru season he looked like a longterm AB, then an injury from memory, and mediocre ever since. Solid but not spectacular.


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    #1488
    thomond2006
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    IN
    Anton Peikrishvili (prop, Castres), Luke Charteris (lock, Perpignan), Thibault Dubarry (lock, Biarritz), Antonie Claassen (n8, Castres), Johan Goosen (fly-half, Cheetahs), Casey Laulala (centre, Munster), Yoan Audrin (winger, Montpellier), Teddy Thomas (winger, Biarritz), Brice Dulin (fullback, Castres)

    OUT:
    Soane Tonga'uiha (prop, Oyonnax), Karim Ghezal (lock, Lyon), Antoine Battut (flanker, Montpellier), Masi Matadigo (n8, Lyon), Jone Qovu (n8, La Rochelle), Otilo Kafotamaki (n8, Narbonne), Jonathan Wisniewski (fly-half, Grenoble), Fabrice Estebanez (centre, Lyon), Virimi Vakatawa (winger, France VII), Benjamin Fall (fullback, Montpellier)

    A lot of the deadwood is gone out of Racing, Tonga'uiha in particular was a disaster. One loss they didn't want is Antoine Battut who was their captain at times this season.

    Possible team (in bold are French qualified):

    Brugnaut, Szarzewski, Ducalcon, Charteris, Kruger, Lydiate, Le Roux, Claassen,
    Machenaud, Sexton, Imhoff, Roberts, Laulala, Andreu, Dulin

    Bench: Lacombe, Ben Arous, Mujati, Dubarry, Lauret, Phillips, Goosen, Hernandez


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    #1489
    porterbelly
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    I can't understand how the winger Vakatawa never got a look in and is now off to play sevens. He has unbelievable talent. Saw him the season before last and at times he was unplayable. I'm surprised nobody is looking at taking a punt on him.

    How many back rows have Lyon signed?

    George Smith, Matadigo, Pierrick Gunther, Deon Fourie can play back row, Julien Puricelli. They are after Koleleshvilli from Clermont and still have the likes of Leguizamon already there.

    They'll be watched with interest next year.


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    #1490
    thomond2006
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    I'm not sure what happened with Vakatawa. Toulon were reportedly interested this time last year (Vakatawa is JIFF) but nothing came from it.

    The last time Lyon came up they signed a virtually new team as well and they were relegated. This team looks a lot more impressive than the equivalent last time though! I'd be surprised to see them relegated.


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    #1491
    thomond2006
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    Folau to Toulon? If Wilkinson was on 750-800k then surely Folau could demand in excess of a million! Would be class to see him in Europe some day.

    http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9343922,00.html

    Then again this is being reported by Midi Olympique who need to fill column inches in the post season.


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    #1492
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Folau to Toulon? If Wilkinson was on 750-800k then surely Folau could demand in excess of a million! Would be class to see him in Europe some day.

    http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9343922,00.html

    Then again this is being reported by Midi Olympique who need to fill column inches in the post season.

    Folau was very close to a return to the NRL before resigning with the ARU, will more than likely head back to that before coming up north


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    #1493
    Swiwi.
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Folau to Toulon? If Wilkinson was on 750-800k then surely Folau could demand in excess of a million! Would be class to see him in Europe some day.

    http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9343922,00.html

    Then again this is being reported by Midi Olympique who need to fill column inches in the post season.

    I'd say that'd be a month worth of wetdreams for you there thomond.

    I'd like to see Folau do a SOB or JH, and say screw the money I'm proud to play for my province and country.

    At least for a few years anyway. There's no doubt Aussie will have to break the bank to keep Folau, most exciting back since Lomu.


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    #1494
    thomond2006
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    He's a player that I believe the IRFU / one of the provinces should make a big money move for. I think you'd get a lot more people through the turnstiles for the Pro12 to watch him play. If possible I'd prefer to see the provinces bring in one or two foreign marquee names as opposed to four or five lesser players.


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    #1495
    Swiwi.
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    He's a player that I believe the IRFU / one of the provinces should make a big money move for. I think you'd get a lot more people through the turnstiles for the Pro12 to watch him play.

    Don't think the Irish provinces have the pull. As you say, he'd command a million plus a season. It'll be Aussie, Japan, or France for mine.


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    #1496
    thomond2006
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Don't think the Irish provinces have the pull. As you say, he'd command a million plus a season. It'll be Aussie, Japan, or France for mine.

    Not Japan please! I get why players go (hard to turn down silly money a la SBW or Jaque Fourie) but they become invisible to the rest of us.

    You'd wonder how sustainable that Japanese model is. Do the matches get good attendances or is it just an ego trip for all the companies trying to outdo one another? At least they have strict limits on foreign players so that the domestic players aren't blocked.


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    #1497
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny


    On a similar topic as Folau, Karmichael Hunt is looking set to snub the NRL and head to Union to the Reds from AFL. Another guy whose gonna command all sorts of 0's on his contract


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    #1498
    Swiwi.
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Not Japan please! I get why players go (hard to turn down silly money a la SBW or Jaque Fourie) but they become invisible to the rest of us.

    You'd wonder how sustainable that Japanese model is. Do the matches get good attendances or is it just an ego trip for all the companies trying to outdo one another? At least they have strict limits on foreign players so that the domestic players aren't blocked.

    No idea. They pay the locals peanuts, and the SANZAR imports bucketloads.

    I for one hope he stays in Aussie. The hypocrisy on this forum does my head in, gnashing of teeth/wailing about Murray, SOB, JH etc going to France, more than happy to pilfer other countries though. Guess it's human nature.


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    #1499
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    No idea. They pay the locals peanuts, and the SANZAR imports bucketloads.

    I for one hope he stays in Aussie. The hypocrisy on this forum does my head in, gnashing of teeth/wailing about Murray, SOB, JH etc going to France, more than happy to pilfer other countries though. Guess it's human nature.

    I agree, think Folau should stay, but I don't think he'll stay in Union too long. NRL is where he made his name, he'll end up back there. Especially with the new Marquee player deals which now have no effect on clubs salary cap. NRL very upset at losing Burgess, SBW and not getting Hunt & Folau back so taking drastic action to get/keep the best league players in league.


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    thomond2006
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    Harinordoquy rumoured to be going to Toulouse. They need cover as Nyanga, Dusautoir and Picamoles will be limited to 30 matches for club and country next season under the new LNR/FFR agreement.


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    #1501
    Swiwi.
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    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »
    I agree, think Folau should stay, but I don't think he'll stay in Union too long. NRL is where he made his name, he'll end up back there. Especially with the new Marquee player deals which now have no effect on clubs salary cap. NRL very upset at losing Burgess, SBW and not getting Hunt & Folau back so taking drastic action to get/keep the best league players in league.

    We'll see. League is really only taken seriously in Australia plus working class Northern England and working class NZ (mainly Auckland), whereas rugby is now a global sport. Folau could do serious marketing deals based off worldwide rugby fame.


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