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Garden Moth Recording 2011

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    Mothman
    saw this lad tonight. not the best pic ever, only had the phone on me.
    he's quite big, at least an inch long. velvety texture to him. silver/grey colour with a large off white spot at the end of each wing.
    scanned through this thread and an older thread but didnt see any others.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    Its a Buff-tip - they disguise themselves really well as a broken end of twig:
    http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?id=32


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    21 Large Yellow Underwings last night. Also the first 2 Lesser Broad Bordered Yellow Underwings of the season. And a Lesser Yellow Underwing for good measure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


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    Another for id please. Some type of wave?Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    thebishop wrote: »
    Another for id please. Some type of wave?Thanks.
    Yes, Riband Wave


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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    From a rain soaked trap on Sat morning.
    Four spotted footman x 1
    Dark arches x 9
    Spectacle x 2
    Dot-moth x 1
    Brimstone x 1
    Burnished brass x 1
    Small phoenix x 2
    Large yellow underwing x 4
    Lesser yellow underwing x 1
    Uncertain x 1
    Early thorn x 1
    July highflyer x 3
    Small squarespot x 1
    Common Wainscot x 1
    Garden carpet x 2
    Clouded Border x 3
    Common Rustic x 1
    Rosy Rustic x 1

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    Four Spotted Footman.

    Brought the trap to Glengarriff on Tuesday night last for two and a half hours.Had 45 species of moths large nos of some of them Plus about 10000 midges.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Got our first Barred Red last night. Otherwise the trap was full of Common Rustics, Willow Beauty's and Large Yellow Underwings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    First August Thorn of the season last night:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    saw this rather large bucko last night. the bar he is on is one inch thick so he is a bot over two inches wide as you can see.

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    the colour might be a bit off due to the conditions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    It's an Oak Eggar


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    Mothman wrote: »
    It's an Oak Eggar

    one big moth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Oak Eggar = Abhóga Darach .
    That's useful to know isn't it;) I've been hoping to find one in the trap but no luck yet.

    GMS night. I've lost track of what week we're on again :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Not hard to count the moths this morning.

    2 x large yellow underwing
    1x lesser bb yellow underwing
    1x magpie

    :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    First Angle Shades of the year last night:

    picture.php?albumid=1295&pictureid=10341


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    70+ species last night, similar to previous week.
    Disappointing catch LB :(

    0453 Honeysuckle Moth (Ypsolopha dentella) 1
    0868 Helcystogramma rufescens 3
    0873 Blastobasis adustella 15
    0964 Cochylis dubitana 1
    0969 Chequered Fruit-tree Tortrix (Pandemis corylana) 5
    1048 Garden Rose Tortrix (Acleris variegana) 1
    1076 Celypha lacunana 1
    1104 Endothenia quadrimaculana 1
    1126 Ancylis badiana 1
    1159 Holly Tortrix (Rhopobota naevana) 2
    1260 Cydia splendana 2
    1293 Garden Grass-veneer (Chrysoteuchia culmella) 1
    1304 Agriphila straminella 7
    1305 Agriphila tristella 44
    1309 Agriphila geniculea 1
    1338 Dipleurina lacustrata 1
    1388 Udea lutealis 12
    1390 Udea prunalis 8
    1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 2
    1452 Phycita roborella 1
    1702 Small Fan-footed Wave (Idaea biselata) 6
    1708 Single-dotted Wave (Idaea dimidiata) 1
    1713 Riband Wave [non-banded form] (Idaea aversata ab. remutata) 2
    1719 Oblique Carpet (Orthonama vittata) 1
    1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 1
    1725 Dark-barred Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe ferrugata) 4
    1732 Shaded Broad-bar (Scotopteryx chenopodiata) 7
    1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 4
    1759 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata) 9
    1766 Blue-bordered Carpet (Plemyria rubiginata) 1
    1777 July Highflyer (Hydriomena furcata) 10
    1883 Yellow-barred Brindle (Acasis viretata) 1
    1884 Magpie Moth (Abraxas grossulariata) 3
    1887 Clouded Border (Lomaspilis marginata) 4
    1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 12
    1907 Bordered Beauty (Epione repandaria) 1
    1912 August Thorn (Ennomos quercinaria) 1
    1917 Early Thorn (Selenia dentaria) 8
    1921 Scalloped Oak (Crocallis elinguaria) 5
    1922 Swallow-tailed Moth (Ourapteryx sambucaria) 1
    1937 Willow Beauty (Peribatodes rhomboidaria) 1
    1941 Mottled Beauty (Alcis repandata) 3
    1956 Common Wave (Cabera exanthemata) 1
    1961 Light Emerald (Campaea margaritata) 2
    1981 Poplar Hawk-moth (Laothoe populi) 1
    2000 Iron Prominent (Notodonta dromedarius) 1
    2011 Pale Prominent (Pterostoma palpina) 1
    2030 Yellow-tail (Euproctis similis) 2
    2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
    2050 Common Footman (Eilema lurideola) 8
    2089 Heart and Dart (Agrotis exclamationis) 1
    2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 40
    2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 3
    2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 17
    2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 2
    2128 Double Square-spot (Xestia triangulum) 2
    2130 Dotted Clay (Xestia baja) 9
    2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 10
    2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 1
    2192 Brown-line Bright Eye (Mythimna conigera) 1
    2193 Clay (Mythimna ferrago) 1
    2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 20
    2318 Dun-bar (Cosmia trapezina) 3
    2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 5
    2342 Rosy Minor (Mesoligia literosa) 2
    2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 16
    2353 Flounced Rustic (Luperina testacea) 1
    2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 5
    2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 1
    2381 Uncertain (Hoplodrina alsines) 3
    2382 Rustic (Hoplodrina blanda) 1
    2434 Burnished Brass (Diachrysia chrysitis) 1
    2449 Dark Spectacle (Abrostola triplasia) 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Mothman wrote: »
    .
    Disappointing catch LB :(

    I don't know if it's my trap or what:confused:
    I had makeshift baffles (a la blue peter) one of which broke yesterday so that may have played a part. I may just make a blue peter type trap tonight and try to see if it makes a difference. There were loads of moths around the trap last night and looking like they were flying in.... they must have just flown out again:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    13c and very windy with rain on and off during the night here.There was a cat sitting by the trap at 3am, dont know if he was catching moths or warming himself.Moths scarce enough;
    Large Yellow Underwing x 11
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x8
    Least Yellow Underwing x 3
    Heart and Dart x 1
    Small phoenix x 1
    Burnished Brass x 1
    Dark Arches x 3
    Herald x 1
    Smoky Wainscot x 1
    Iron Prominent x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 1
    Uncertain x 2
    Common wave x 1
    Spectacle x 1
    Darkbarred twin spot carpet x 1
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    Herald.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    This fellow must be near fully grown.
    85mm! Elephant Hawk-moth on a Rosebay willowherb.
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    3 days ago when it was only 70mm!
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    First seen 10 days ago when it was 60mm long

    EDIT
    Here's a snap just now. Moved up the plant to tackle a leaf.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Some moths from Friday night

    Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing
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    Magpie Moth
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    Yellow-tail
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    GMS night again. Hopefully I'll have more success this week :rolleyes: though it's looking mighty quiet out there so far. At least the weather has eased a bit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Its quite mild here after some cold nights this week, and as you say, the wind has eased and its quite busy at the trap at moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    I think I need more trees :) I have a small space where I could have a hedge of sorts though nothing too tall. Any suggestions MM as to what I could plant this Autumn to make the garden more inviting next Spring? Empty gardens on 3 sides, lots of competing lights.... I'm not sure there's much more I can do at the minute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Slight improvement on last week.

    Dark Arches x1
    Lesser yellow underwing x4
    Large Yellow Underwing x 2
    Uncertain x1
    Common Rustic x2

    this one below... very small.. I thought smaller than smoky wainscot but maybe my memory of wainscot is flawed.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Try Small Wainscot LB

    My list from last night
    0868 Helcystogramma rufescens 2
    0873 Blastobasis adustella 10
    0969 Chequered Fruit-tree Tortrix (Pandemis corylana) 1
    1038x Acleris laterana/comariana 2
    1076 Celypha lacunana 1
    1138 Epinotia nisella 1
    1159 Holly Tortrix (Rhopobota naevana) 1
    1260 Cydia splendana 2
    1304 Agriphila straminella 3
    1305 Agriphila tristella 20
    1358 Evergestis pallidata 1
    1388 Udea lutealis 5
    1390 Udea prunalis 1
    1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 4
    1439 Trachycera advenella 1
    1702 Small Fan-footed Wave (Idaea biselata) 2
    1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 2
    1725 Dark-barred Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe ferrugata) 2
    1732 Shaded Broad-bar (Scotopteryx chenopodiata) 17
    1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 3
    1759 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata) 2
    1777 July Highflyer (Hydriomena furcata) 9
    1883 Yellow-barred Brindle (Acasis viretata) 1
    1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 10
    1912 August Thorn (Ennomos quercinaria) 1
    1917 Early Thorn (Selenia dentaria) 1
    1921 Scalloped Oak (Crocallis elinguaria) 1
    1937 Willow Beauty (Peribatodes rhomboidaria) 4
    1941 Mottled Beauty (Alcis repandata) 1
    1945 Brussels Lace (Cleorodes lichenaria) 1
    1956 Common Wave (Cabera exanthemata) 2
    2030 Yellow-tail (Euproctis similis) 1
    2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
    2051 Four-spotted Footman (Lithosia quadra) 1
    2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta) 1
    2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 25
    2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 1
    2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 23
    2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 12
    2130 Dotted Clay (Xestia baja) 9
    2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 19
    2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 9
    2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 16
    2318 Dun-bar (Cosmia trapezina) 1
    2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 1
    2336 Double Lobed (Apamea ophiogramma) 1
    2341 Cloaked Minor (Mesoligia furuncula) 1
    2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 9
    2350 Small Wainscot (Chortodes pygmina) 2
    2353 Flounced Rustic (Luperina testacea) 2
    2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 7
    2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 2
    2474 Straw Dot (Rivula sericealis) 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Mothman wrote: »
    Try Small Wainscot LB

    I looked at that. It's much paler than the Smoky Wainscot on Ukmoths but it does say they are variable in colour so that is probably it.

    Stupid question... when you say wingspan what exactly is measured....:o

    Eta... great list as always MM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    littlebug wrote: »

    Stupid question... when you say wingspan what exactly is measured....:o

    .

    To qualify that stupid question :o I mean is it the length of one wing or span of both ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Have a look here

    Wingspan is across both wings.

    Some guides use forewing length which is the length of one wing, from tip of wing to thorax (body) Wingspan is twice this plus the width of thorax

    And finally, I don't believe there is any such thing as stupid questions :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Mothman wrote: »
    Have a look here

    I'm pretty sure that's the one. Forewing length is about right. :). Cheer MM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Not alot of moths around here on Friday night.
    Large Yellow Underwing x 7
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x10
    Lesser Broad-bordered yellow Underwing x 13
    Aughust Thorn x 1
    Canary-shouldered Thorn x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 7
    Heart and Dart 1
    Spectacle x 1
    Burnished Brass x 1
    Dark Arches x 1
    Uncertain x 1
    Small Square spot x 1
    Ear Moth x 1
    Agriphila Tristella x10
    And this little fella for I.D please.
    IMG_6105_3453.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    thebishop wrote: »
    And this little fella for I.D please.
    1048 Garden Rose Tortrix Acleris variegana


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