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Garden Moth Recording 2011

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Nice haul LB! I'll put my neck on the block and say the first one is a Buff Ermine, I've had them with 'missing' spots before.

    PS What type of trap are you using?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Nice haul LB! I'll put my neck on the block and say the first one is a Buff Ermine, I've had them with 'missing' spots before.

    PS What type of trap are you using?

    I went to check the trap at about 11 and I'd forgotten to switch the light on :rolleyes: Half an hour later they were bombing into the trap:eek: (despite the rain). There must be a serious amount of Heart and Darts around here if I caught that many.

    It's a home made skinner trap with 40w actinic light.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    I've been catching up to 2 dozen Hearts & Darts a night in my homemade Skinner 15W. They do seem to be the most common moths around at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Is this A Buff Ermine... with a few spots missing/ faded?
    Yes
    Stick like Moth.. is it a Red Sword Grass... but seems late? Wrong angle I now know :rolleyes:
    (Edited to add-possibly Flame?)
    You got there in the end. Big size difference between Flame and Red-sword grass.
    Silver Ground Carpet or Flame Carpet?
    SGC
    These brown moths, probably some I should already know but...
    Don't know first.
    2nd is Clouded Bordered Brindle
    and this micro...(crambus lathoniellus?)
    Yes :)

    Heart and Dart can turn up in 100s!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Thanks MM:)

    I also found a Shark under the bench and the kids found a Broom on the trampoline :D
    I love the names. It's a good job I haven't had "Uncertain"yet or I'd get even more confused :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Mothman wrote: »
    Heart and Dart can turn up in 100s!

    39 last night - a record size catch for me, without even counting the other species caught!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Need help with these 2, the first is some type of Rustic, the 2nd a Brocade? Both about 20mm long.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Need help with these 2, the first is some type of Rustic, the 2nd a Brocade? Both about 20mm long.
    Both Dusky Brocade :)
    and no shame in having issues with this...

    Dusky Brocade is common and variable and there is a good chance that an unknown moth of this size at this time of year is this species.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    That was quick! I think I was fooled by the apparent different shapes.

    No trapping tonight by the look of things, wet and windy:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    it's pretty miserable here too :( It's supposedly going to clear a bit so I won't decide yet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    well rain and wind kept moths away.
    Just one Buff ermine and 3 Heart and Darts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Couldn't do GMS Fri night so ran trap last night. As it happens, the weather was much better last night than previous night and I logged 80 species. Plenty more I didn't log...the tiny ones :)

    While I realise that 80 species may be a :eek: to some
    To put it in perspective, that number is not extraordinary for here and I was expecting there to be more.

    Yesterday was hottest day of year here with 24C and the overnight min was above 14C.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    I did Sat night too.Light rain all night. 13 c. Good catch. Will be all day trying to figure em all out.Most interesting were 2 Humming bird hawkmoths.Both were in a white plastic bag I had wrapped around the ext lead to keep it dry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    The Hummingbird Hawk-moths are an indication of a migrant influx. With the warm southerly wind continuing, perhaps migrants will have arrived here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


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    Any Id on these 2 please.Both close to 10 M.M. Nose to tail.Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    83 Hearts and Darts in the trap this morning! 10 Large Yellow Underwings and our first Swallow-tailed of the year. Lot's of other species too:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Sat nights catch.Getting better as the year goes on.
    Hummingbird hawkmoth x 1.
    Elephant hawkmoth x 3
    Eyed hawkmoth x 1
    Grey pug x 2
    Common pug x 1
    Brimstone x 5
    Swallow prominent x 1
    Common swift x 15
    Dot- moth x 1
    Large yellow underwing x 9
    Uncertain x 7
    Rustic x 2
    White ermine x 5
    Buff ermine x 11
    Peppered moth x 1
    Flame x 29.
    Flame shoulder x 3
    Heart and dart x 23
    Bright line-brown eye x 13
    Peach blossom x 1
    Marbled minor agg x 5
    Dusky brocade x 3
    Dark arches x 1
    Silver Y x 2
    Common white-wave x 1
    Small angle shades x5
    Green arches x 1
    Clouded brindle x 3
    Shears x 3
    Beautiful snout x 1
    Burnished brass x 1
    Clouded border x 1
    Magpie x 1
    Fan-foot x 1
    Plus 2 unidentified above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    thebishop wrote: »
    Any Id on these 2 please.Both close to 10 M.M. Nose to tail.Thanks

    Archips podana aka Large Fruit-tree Tortrix a bit the worse for wear.

    The other is part of a very difficult group, Scopariinae and are difficult even with the best of photos. I don't have my eye in on these as much as I did some years back, but having said the above, I suggest this is Eudonia mercurella


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Thanks again Mothman.What would we do without you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    thebishop wrote: »
    Thanks again Mothman.What would we do without you.

    Collect stamps? :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Mothman wrote: »
    Collect stamps? :D

    Tried that, moths are more exciting!!!

    I finally got all my Saturday catch ID'd (thanks MM). 127 moths altogether, a record for my little low wattage skinner trap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    I thought conditions last night were perfect but apparently not :confused:

    1 Heart and Dart and 2 Dusky Brocade (I think) plus hundred of tiny flies (all dead).
    Oh well... maybe I'll go back to stamp collecting :(:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    littlebug wrote: »
    and this micro...(crambus lathoniellus?)
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    Sorry LB, this is C. pascuella and not lathoniellus that I confirmed it as before. :o:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    3 Buff Arches last night. One of my favourite moths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Anyone know what the top moth is in the pic below? I left the Heart and Dart in the pic for scale.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Anyone know what the top moth is in the pic below? I left the Heart and Dart in the pic for scale.

    Lozotaenia forsterana


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Im not at home tonight so no GMS. Will Monday be too late or should I just skip this week?

    I brought the moth light with me :D and have made a trap out of a bin and some cardboard so it'll be interesting to see what the different habitat will bring (if anything!). Have already had a cinnabar in the house and a transparent burnet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Monday night is fine for tonights GMS :)

    It's cold here which is reduce activity quite a bit. Already below 9C and it's not really dark yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    My light is attracting quite a lot of attention out there! My makeshift trap isn't working terribly well as I can see some fly in and back out again and more fluttering around and behind it but hopefully enough will hang around on the walls and vegetation to give me something to do in the morning :)
    There's one Peach Blossom (new to me) nicely settled on the wall.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Cool night with min of 8C and nearly half the number of species as previous week.
    2nd highest number of Uncertain in my records

    Cnephasia species (Cnephasia sp.) 2
    0468 Rhigognostis incarnatella 1
    0610 Elachista argentella 1
    0970 Barred Fruit-tree Tortrix (Pandemis cerasana) 2
    0998 Light Brown Apple Moth (Epiphyas postvittana) 1
    1002 Lozotaenia forsterana 2
    1293 Garden Grass-veneer (Chrysoteuchia culmella) 1
    1334 Scoparia ambigualis 3
    1392 Udea olivalis 1
    1653 Buff Arches (Habrosyne pyritoides) 1
    1709 Satin Wave (Idaea subsericeata) 1
    1887 Clouded Border (Lomaspilis marginata) 11
    1910 Lilac Beauty (Apeira syringaria) 1
    1941 Mottled Beauty (Alcis repandata) 14
    1945 Brussels Lace (Cleorodes lichenaria) 2
    1955 Common White Wave (Cabera pusaria) 2
    1956 Common Wave (Cabera exanthemata) 1
    1961 Light Emerald (Campaea margaritata) 8
    1962 Barred Red (Hylaea fasciaria) 3
    1981 Poplar Hawk-moth (Laothoe populi) 4
    1991 Elephant Hawk-moth (Deilephila elpenor) 1
    1994 Buff-tip (Phalera bucephala) 1
    2006 Lesser Swallow Prominent (Pheosia gnoma) 1
    2007 Swallow Prominent (Pheosia tremula) 1
    2028 Pale Tussock (Calliteara pudibunda) 1
    2057 Garden Tiger (Arctia caja) 1
    2060 White Ermine (Spilosoma lubricipeda) 3
    2089 Heart and Dart (Agrotis exclamationis) 10
    2098 Flame (Axylia putris) 1
    2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta) 3
    2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 2
    2114 Double Dart (Graphiphora augur) 1
    2120 Ingrailed Clay (Diarsia mendica) 1
    2122 Purple Clay (Diarsia brunnea) 1
    2160 Bright-line Brown-eye (Lacanobia oleracea) 3
    2306 Angle Shades (Phlogophora meticulosa) 1
    2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 4
    2327 Clouded Brindle (Apamea epomidion) 2
    2330 Dusky Brocade (Apamea remissa) 3
    2337x Marbled Minor agg. (Oligia strigilis agg.) 2
    2381 Uncertain (Hoplodrina alsines) 29
    2382 Rustic (Hoplodrina blanda) 4
    2387 Mottled Rustic (Caradrina morpheus) 1
    2434 Burnished Brass (Diachrysia chrysitis) 2
    2450 Spectacle (Abrostola tripartita) 1
    2474 Straw Dot (Rivula sericealis) 6


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