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[CoD MW3] General News and Discussion
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hightower1 wrote: »Actually Im not, that was traded last week.
I don't get you, sorry
Also the phrase "the straw that broke the camels back" seems fitting. While it may come sooner for some for me its definitely here, for most that feeling came a long time ago. As you know Lee being jaded is a subjective opinion and my opinion is that the series has lost its way.
Are you saying because they're -apparently- going with Black Ops 2 as a successor to Black Ops that it won't be innovative? I don't think many would disagree with the argument that Black Ops was at the very least semi-innovative as CoD standards go with the currency system, Wager Matches, theatre mode (in CoD for the first time), updated zombies, combat record etc. Treyarch are at least more focused on innovation than IW so there's no reason to doubt their claims of making CoD more innovative again this time round.
You can argue that the series as a whole is stagnating, from what point onwards is debatable, but to go jumping the gun before nearly any details are released for a game rumoured to be Blops 2 is a little premature IMO.0 -
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I don't get you, sorry
I traded mw3 and 2 last week, not playing them anymore.Are you saying because they're -apparently- going with Black Ops 2 as a successor to Black Ops that it won't be innovative? I don't think many would disagree with the argument that Black Ops was at the very least semi-innovative as CoD standards go with the currency system, Wager Matches, theatre mode (in CoD for the first time), updated zombies, combat record etc. Treyarch are at least more focused on innovation than IW so there's no reason to doubt their claims of making CoD more innovative again this time round.
You can argue that the series as a whole is stagnating, from what point onwards is debatable, but to go jumping the gun before nearly any details are released for a game rumoured to be Blops 2 is a little premature IMO.
Its subjective and only an opinion tbh but I think the industry as a whole views COD as having run its coarse. Its just making money now and while thats great for investors behind it its not so good for gaming in general. The series has had no major update since mw1. Each game has simply become a skinned version of the last iteration, some small touches added on but its now just wiffing a bit of a clapped out old banger that some teen keeps gluing on bits and pieces from halfords and thinking "its new" with each piece he adds. Ultimately we will end up with an utter mess, tbh for me that mess is MW3 and thats why I traded it.
Seems like COD has settled at the top of the sales charts as the default game to buy each year but as gamers get older and more jaded of the series it SHOULD die but the issue being that the more youthful audience still see it as the status quo and buy back in keeping it in the top spot. I think activision know this and thats why we see such chronic lack of support once a version is released. Why support a game thats being propped up by a fan base thats not really hardcore gamers? (Speaking for the majority there , I know from my experience here there are at least some hard core players regularly on COD) These "mid" core types will have a young demographic of about 10 - 18 years old and will be more accepting of game flaws and lack of innovation for a time so no need to address those points in activisions eyes.
I wouldnt call myself a COD hater simply cause I sold it and wont be playing anymore, I enjoyed it for a time but I think Ive outgrown any franchise that refuses to pay its do's to the fans and to the industry as a whole by upkeeping and promoting innovation. - COD , for me at least, has fallen into that category of franchises.0 -
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141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »Looks like the next few prestiges are available to unlock now according to elite.
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I was reading up on mw3 gun stats online and stumbled onto this on another website. Basically it's an incredibly detailed piece of info or a wall of monotonous indecipherable numbers depending on your love or hatred of spreadsheets.
Assault rifle/LMG/MP/Pistol table.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWEaU8N7NeddEprUWFkQi1ZWFU0eGItNGwzZG1oSXc#gid=0
Shotgun table.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWEaU8N7NeddFlNRk44SHkydC1ucE54YmVBS2FJT0E#gid=0
Sniper rifle table.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWEaU8N7NeddHNhUlJxZ3RMd1NnVUVDNEtmYUR4SWc#gid=0
Docs come from here
Gun damage values are dependant on the range to target. Since only sniper rifles don't suffer from bullet drop off, there are 2 values. The type 95 has the best potential to kill the quickest providing it's user is accurate enough with that first burst, if not the delay between bursts can be fatal. Also you can see that the ump at long range does the same damage as a pistol.
Shotguns have damage and range included in there to help you decide for yourself which is best and also gives pellet number information.
Sniper rifles have silenced and un-silenced damage tables including one shot kill (OSK) tables on body parts.
Recoil is based on x (horizontal) and y (vertical) so the predictable recoil of the mp7 moves in the y axis between 20 and 45, for a total of 25 and a recoil heavy gun such as the m60 varies between -10 and 60 for a total of 70. If you want to see graphical recoil plots and the comparison of guns with and without kick like this:
check them out here
Weapon range is covered under the columns "Drop Off Start" and "Drop Off End". Basically from testing killing distances they've found that 1m ~= 41.5u (in game measurement of distance). More info about how they calculated this is from here
Why the l86 is potentially the best gun.
I've used the L86 with kick and thermal and it's unreal, yes you're blocking your peripheral view but the accuracy and immense fire rate even in long bursts has to be tried. It does have a severe damage drop off (20 from 38) but even at long range it's not too be discounted due to it's incredible accuracy especially when prone.
Imbalance in Domination spawns.
Some spawns are horribly inbalanced and this post shows just how vividly they can be, depending on your class of choice approaching B dom is suicidal. It also does goes to incredible lengths of detail comparing the speed of various classes and perk combinations.
Finally a word of advice, I wouldn't get too bogged down in looking at which weapon kills best at which range in a certain time. It's entirely possible that a new update has changed things and the tables aren't up to date or there were mistakes along the line or that lag potentially supersedes the table and makes them inaccurate. You should choose guns and play to it's potential strengths and don't expect one gun to rule over all others. There are far too many factors at play in mw3 that are impossible to predict, all you can do is enjoy the game as much as possible.
All credit to the original posters.0 -
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