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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Early election posters are the least of our worries. Also if the posters are on private property I don't think it applies.

    Lets not get distracted from the important issues here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flutered wrote: »
    i had to go into town this morning, posters of heffernan lag and power ff adorning the landscape from caherconlish to limerick, up before the election had been announced thus breaking the law.



    Seems there were posters up from last week in some counties going by what was being said on the Matt Cooper show last week.

    What was comical was the guy from the NRA asking, yes asking, if those putting up political posters on roundabouts could place them higher so motorists could see, despite it being illegal to put the posters there in the first place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    flutered wrote: »
    up before the election had been announced thus breaking the law.


    they aren't breaking the law (unfortunately cos I'd love to have them removed and/or the politicians fined). posters can go up when election is called or 30 days before election - whichever is the shorter time frame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,668 ✭✭✭flutered


    will all the partys canvass or will it be individuals who will call, has anyone had canvasers, if so what tribe did they belong to, what was their speil.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭molard


    had leddin last saturday. to early for me to get up.would have enjoyed a chat .i see ower has a large poster outside westbury estate.why is the ff logo so small.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    molard wrote: »
    had leddin last saturday. to early for me to get up.would have enjoyed a chat .i see ower has a large poster outside westbury estate.why is the ff logo so small.

    He is probably ashamed to be associated with them :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    they aren't breaking the law (unfortunately cos I'd love to have them removed and/or the politicians fined). posters can go up when election is called or 30 days before election - whichever is the shorter time frame.


    Pretty sure the Willie O Dea posters that were being put up on the actual roundabout signs on the Ballysimon road roundabout nearest Harvey Norman about 30 minutes ago are being illegally placed.


    Spotted them being tied into place as I came from the Tipperary side. They were being tied to the signs that are at eye height when driving and do block the view for a second or so of cars coming around the roundabout when you are about to enter the roundabout. I said it to one of the guys tying it that could they not put it somewhere that did not block the view and his answer was "We are entitled to put them on roundabout signage", which is probably the right kind of stupid response that one would expect from the man on the poster so apt that his lackies are of the same ilk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flutered wrote: »
    will all the partys canvass or will it be individuals who will call, has anyone had canvasers, if so what tribe did they belong to, what was their speil.


    O Dea was going around the other day and had 15, yes I counted them :P, little helpers with him. He had no interest in discussing real issues and preferred to try and waffle on about how he would be a voice for Limerick and he would be the type who would stand up and tell a party leader if they were wrong. At that point I told him that he has never been any of those things in his time as minister before and that I would not waste a vote on a yes man who had no interest in telling me what his parties policies would be after the coming election.

    Also chatted with Joe Leddin and it was like comparing night with day compared to O Dea. He had no problem talking about national and local issues (local issues like crime, employment rather than potholes), had no problem debating party policies, and was not afraid to argue a point or to say what he thought would not be possible to do rather than just try to spoof his way through a conversation by trying to resort to parish pump crap like O Dea and his voice of Limerick routine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,668 ✭✭✭flutered


    Kess73 wrote: »
    O Dea was going around the other day and had 15, yes I counted them :P, little helpers with him
    safty in numbers one must assume.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭BobMc


    Last time Dille O'Wea went to my folks house they wanted to debate a few points with him he couldn't get away quick enough, told my dad straight to his face sure I'm a minister I've no time to deal with issues like sure tis a local matter !! - 2 days later he knocked at my door and I had a lash off him told him about what went on down in my folks house again I never knew a MINISTER was able to move that quick


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    gaf1983 wrote: »
    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.

    It's good that Leddin answered directly rather than try and fob you off. I'd like to see him get in but don't think the numbers will stack up for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    gaf1983 wrote: »
    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.


    No surprise to see those two replying quickly to a member of the public. Seems to be par for the course for Noonan and Leddin to get back in touch with people as quickly as they can, and normally with a fair bit of detail in their replies.


    That's the same list that I took questions from for O'Dea and Leddin when I spoke to them. The same list that O 'Dea was not interested in discussing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    It's good that Leddin answered directly rather than try and fob you off. I'd like to see him get in but don't think the numbers will stack up for him.



    I think he could surprise a few with his numbers to be honest. He did alright in the last local election numberwise if I remember right, and he has impressed a lot of people, including myself, with how quickly and honestly he dealt with and got involved with local issues.

    he is good at following up on anything he starts or is involved with, and is good at keeping people in the loop.

    There are other councillors in his area that could learn a thing or two from him in terms of how to do the job and in how to deal with people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    how is sinn fein picking up so many votes?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    zuroph wrote: »
    how is sinn fein picking up so many votes?!

    Probably because Maurice Quinlivan puts a lot of time and effort into local issues that other candidates choose to ignore.

    Not voting SF by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Probably because Maurice Quinlivan puts a lot of time and effort into local issues that other candidates choose to ignore.
    .

    Such as?

    What's he done that, say, Kiely hasn't done?

    No one would put Kiely forward to the Dail so why the manlove for Quinlivan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Tackling anti-social behaviour in Thomondgate & Stenson Park for one.

    Kiely wasn't selected by his own party. Says a lot about his track record, of which we all can recall some of the outlandish and embarrassing statements he made as mayor.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/MEP-calls-on-Mayor-of.5818502.jp

    Quinlivan on the other hand is a competent individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Tackling anti-social behaviour in Thomondgate & Stenson Park for one.

    Kiely wasn't selected by his own party. Says a lot about his track record, of which we all can recall some of the outlandish and enbarrassing statements he made as mayor.

    Quinlivan on the other hand is a competent individual.

    Ah, in fairness to Kiely (who I'd never vote for), he was on the joint policing for a few years and used to make rounds of Thomondgate with the Gardai. It's hardly all down to Quinlivan, so has he managed anything else?

    The guy is great to get his name in the Post, always on hand for a photo op, but has he actually done much more than guys like Shortt and Kiely have done (using those two as they are from Thomondgate)?

    Like I said, I'd never put Kiely forward for the Dail (though I can't argue he's not a popular guy in Thomondgate) so what has Quinlivan done that merits being a TD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭molard


    don't know anything about mossy,other then the court case involving willie.does anyone know why he settled outside the court.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Ah, in fairness to Kiely (who I'd never vote for), he was on the joint policing for a few years and used to make rounds of Thomondgate with the Gardai. It's hardly all down to Quinlivan, so has he managed anything else?

    The guy is great to get his name in the Post, always on hand for a photo op, but has he actually done much more than guys like Shortt and Kiely have done (using those two as they are from Thomondgate)?

    Like I said, I'd never put Kiely forward for the Dail (though I can't argue he's not a popular guy in Thomondgate) so what has Quinlivan done that merits being a TD?

    And all the years that Kiely was on the committee the place got worse and worse. Nothing was done, sweet F.A. It was Quinlivan who applied the pressure to get the cameras put in place, though other people like to claim the credit for that one. Kiely is full of hot air.

    I could say a lot more, but this isn't the place for that. As for Shortt, nice guy though I am not aware of what he has done besides the skate park thing.

    Anyway I am not voting for any of them (Shortt isn't running anyway) and I don't agree with SF's economic policy.

    EDIT: Maurice was also involved in the establishment of the Northside Legacy Soccer team, it is great for the local lads to get involved in something positive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Jobs should be the biggest issue:

    I see in today's chronicle (page 8), that Limerick got less than 1% of all the IDA jobs last year. To all of those who questionned me, that's my proof, that this region has been neglected and failed.

    How can anyone expect a region to prosper if that's a level playing field?

    Wake up local media, politicians and people.

    Altho regeneration needs to be done properly as well, and it certainly isn't at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Probably because Maurice Quinlivan puts a lot of time and effort into local issues that other candidates choose to ignore.

    Ah yes......every town needs a bro........

    Whoops! Sorry! Since Willie O'Dea is now "acceptable" again within the "new, improved" FF party, I nearly started thinking that what he'd said before was true!

    I mean, Mr Squeaky-Clean New Leader would never, ever let someone from the old FF who lied to course back in, would he ?

    Anyone got a copy of Animal Farm I can borrow ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I mean, Mr Squeaky-Clean New Leader would never, ever let someone from the old FF who lied to course back in, would he ?

    Anyone got a copy of Animal Farm I can borrow ?

    He may be a new leader, but he's from the same old Fianna Fáil. Martin set up the HSE and voted for every single one of FF's policies over the last decade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    gaf1983 wrote: »
    He may be a new leader, but he's from the same old Fianna Fáil. Martin set up the HSE and voted for every single one of FF's policies over the last decade.

    Sorry - my sarcasm must have been too subtle!

    Martin was part of all of the disastrous decisions, voted for them and voted confidence in con-men, and on day one appoints a known committer of slander/libel/perjury, thereby proving 100% that nothing has changed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    I don't get why I was quoted above Liam?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Looking through the election threads, i see that this limerick one has by far the most posts, well done guys - goes to show we can win something :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭watchingthepols


    Ah, in fairness to Kiely (who I'd never vote for), he was on the joint policing for a few years and used to make rounds of Thomondgate with the Gardai.

    Thats true. Kiely likes to be driven around in Garda cars & spends a lot of time socialising with senior Gardai. But when he was chairman of the joint policing authority it rarely held meetings. His big advantage over other councillors though is the fact that he has a buddy in the Limerick Leader who gives him loads of handy publicity.

    Interesting story in the Limerick Leader today about Willie O'Dea. Seems he has deleted almost all reference to Fianna Fail from his website. I had noticed that the FF logo on his posters was almost invisible.

    "The website, boasting the banner headline 'Willie O'Dea, TD - Working for You', does not contain any party logos, nor does it make any reference to the party he has been a member of for over 30 years, even in his biography, a discreet link to the Fianna Fáil homepage at the bottom corner of the site aside."

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Willie-O39Dea-defends-his-website.6709958.jp

    Totally opposite to what he had been saying the last few weeks, O'Dea is now also quoted as saying ""I am getting plenty of abuse on the doorsteps for being Fianna Fáil. People are angry"

    Yes, you better believe it Willie, just wait till you come to my door :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Thats true. Kiely likes to be driven around in Garda cars & spends a lot of time socialising with senior Gardai. But when he was chairman of the joint policing authority it rarely held meetings. His big advantage over other councillors though is the fact that he has a buddy in the Limerick Leader who gives him loads of handy publicity.

    Interesting story in the Limerick Leader today about Willie O'Dea. Seems he has deleted almost all reference to Fianna Fail from his website. I had noticed that the FF logo on his posters was almost invisible.

    "The website, boasting the banner headline 'Willie O'Dea, TD - Working for You', does not contain any party logos, nor does it make any reference to the party he has been a member of for over 30 years, even in his biography, a discreet link to the Fianna Fáil homepage at the bottom corner of the site aside."

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Willie-O39Dea-defends-his-website.6709958.jp

    Totally opposite to what he had been saying the last few weeks, O'Dea is now also quoted as saying ""I am getting plenty of abuse on the doorsteps for being Fianna Fáil. People are angry"

    Yes, you better believe it Willie, just wait till you come to my door :mad:

    Don't give him too much hassle, he's been known to get into fights lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭allimac


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Tackling anti-social behaviour in Thomondgate & Stenson Park for one.

    Kiely wasn't selected by his own party. Says a lot about his track record, of which we all can recall some of the outlandish and embarrassing statements he made as mayor.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/MEP-calls-on-Mayor-of.5818502.jp

    Quinlivan on the other hand is a competent individual.
    What's outlandish or embarrassing about Keily's starements?There are a lot of working class Limerick people who agree with the sentiments of his statement that foreigners are abusing the social welfare system and I hope that they come out to support him in numbers.He was forced to withdraw his remarks by Enda Kenny and that is probably why he is running as an independent. "The people I am talking about are the people who are abusing our lucrative social welfare system and who are flying in here from EU countries and who have no interest in obtaining employment here. I have no issue with those who have been in this country for a number of years and who are entitled to claim benefits" I for one cannot see anything either outlandish or embarrassing about this statement.


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