Limerick City constituency

liammur

No IDA jobs for Limerick since FF got into power in 1997 = No votes.

They deserve to be particularly hammered in both Limerick East and West.

LB6

keep the greens out too - they're more trouble than they're worth too!

Poxyshamrock

The people of Limerick are still gonna vote for Willie O'Dea though.

They vote for him cos they like him...not his party.

That's the way it is around the whole country.

Berty

Im going to ask for a CV from each person who knocks on my door.

liammur

Berty wrote: »

Im going to ask for a CV from each person who knocks on my door.

Not a bad idea, only problem is i'm getting too much junk mail as it is.

RonMexico

Willie O'Dea will be re-elected.

The man is a virtual monument to the stupidity and ignorance of the electorate in this city.

flutered

RonMexico wrote: »

Willie O'Dea will be re-elected.

The man is a virtual monument to the stupidity and ignorance of the electorate in this city.

an excellent statement, but one needs to understand the underlying cause, ie one cannot acess a social welfare, or hse benefit, in either east or west limerick unless one uses the good ? offices of a dff td, which in itself is the main reason that the dff requires purging.

RonMexico

I couldn't think of a better example to describe the broken, inept, gombeen, parish pimp pump politics that have destroyed this country than Mr. Willie O'Dea.

He represents everything that is wrong with politics in this country and as do his supporters.

Amazotheamazing

LB6 wrote: »

keep the greens out too - they're more trouble than they're worth too!

It's a real pity the Greens have killed themselves by going into power with FF. Their Limerick candidate, James Nix, is one of the most impressive people to run for office in Limerick in a generation, imo. Very intelligent and very genuine guy. I'll really struggle to vote for him though, simply because of the way his party has behaved.

I don't really like Noonan but there's a chance he'll a Minister so that has to be considered, as could O'Sullivan I guess.

Assuming three of the four seats go to O'Dea, Noonan and O'Sullivan, that leaves Power and O'Donnell going for the last seat, with Leddin, Quinlivan and maybe Kiely running for it too?

Hard to know where the fourth seat will go.

Insect Overlord

Are the Socialist Party going to have a candidate running locally?

Amazotheamazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Are the Socialist Party going to have a candidate running locally?

Yeah, Cian Prendiville.

Nice guy who's sincere but not sure he has enough experience to be a TD.

http://en-gb.facebook.com/cian.sp

Insect Overlord

I've known him for years, went to school with him. Very dedicated young man, puts everything into the work he does.

But, as you said, he lacks experience. Just the name of the party he represents could hinder him as well.

Amazotheamazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I've known him for years, went to school with him. Very dedicated young man, puts everything into the work he does.

But, as you said, he lacks experience. Just the name of the party he represents could hinder him as well.

Maybe, he's definitely a guy who could serve Limerick well, would like to see guys like him and Nix getting on to the council at the very least (I know that election is four years off). I look at the calibre of councillors we have and those two guys are miles ahead of what we have.

Limerick has a strong Labour history, there's no reason a Socialist couldn't do well here.

jasonf9ace

No doubt willie will more than likely get a seat in the next election.God help the first FF candidate to come knocking at my door they will be greeted by my "lovie" alsatian.Some good old a$$ chewing is in order:)

JerryHandbag

Regardless of the ****storm thats going on in the last few days I would have wanted a change of Govt anyway. 13 years is long enough, change is good

ninty9er

I've heard it suggested that Stephen Kinsella may run, Maybe he has no intention, but someone thought enough of it to put it out there.

He's an economist btw.

Amazotheamazing

ninty9er wrote: »

I've heard it suggested that Stephen Kinsella may run, Maybe he has no intention, but someone thought enough of it to put it out there.

He's an economist btw.

He lectured me back in the day, one of the best, most committed educators I've ever encountered. He ran extra tutorials for free, was constantly available to students and the days before the exams he'd walk around the library answering questions put to him. This was back when he was an MA or PHD student in NUIG (so he wasn't on big bucks), good guy and very intelligent.

Will you be canvassing for Peter Power again this time 99er? Good luck on the doorsteps (seriously, hope people at least give you time to set out your stall, as it were)

AnCapaillMor

Unfortunately whats good for your county\city is'nt neccesarilly whats good for your country. O'Malley\Noonan are really the only good politicians to come out of limk recently, maybe collins too. I honestly don't know who's worth voting for, more interested in the country getting back on its feet than potholes being filled on my road or what polititian will visit a local funeral. Apart from maybe noonan there's noone else there with a influence on a national level.

Kev_ps3

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

The people of Limerick are still gonna vote for Willie O'Dea though.

They vote for him cos they like him...not his party.

That's the way it is around the whole country.

Well then they have no right to complain.
The idea of the city voting in another FF politician and then mass protest when the cuts come in will be cringe worthy stuff. Dumb people.

thesimpsons

I'm sooo looking forward to them knocking on my door - I'll start with the easy questions "what day is it", "whats your name" and if I believe the answers I'll progress on to the harder ones. must remember not to feed the dog for a few days so they can have a good old proper welcome

molard

looking forward to o'dea coming to the door and telling me this mess the country is in not his fault. greens saying jan election another lie.more like march.

osarusan

I'd like people to ask FF the following question: "Given your obvious incompetence at managing the country's finances, and your willingness to lie and blame others to hide your failings, why should I trust you enough to vote for you this time?"

liammur

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Unfortunately whats good for your county\city is'nt neccesarilly whats good for your country. O'Malley\Noonan are really the only good politicians to come out of limk recently, maybe collins too. I honestly don't know who's worth voting for, more interested in the country getting back on its feet than potholes being filled on my road or what polititian will visit a local funeral. Apart from maybe noonan there's noone else there with a influence on a national level.

This is true, but if you have been to cork/galway recently, you will have seen the place is booming. They got the IDA jobs and everyone has benefitted from it.

You need strong local politicians or else all the resources will be going to places like dublin/cork/galway.

gaf1983

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

It's a real pity the Greens have killed themselves by going into power with FF. Their Limerick candidate, James Nix, is one of the most impressive people to run for office in Limerick in a generation, imo. Very intelligent and very genuine guy. I'll really struggle to vote for him though, simply because of the way his party has behaved.

Agree with that. Read the book himself and Frank McDonald wrote at the height of the boom, "Chaos at the Crossroads", basically highlighting the disastrous planning decisions made during those heady days.

Who would Stephen Kinsella run for according to those rumours?

And in other news, the good people of south Donegal, in a poll on the election on Thursday, have a Shinner at 40%... and rewarded the Government's decision to ignore their region and hold off elections for 18 months by putting a Fianna Failure in second at 19%. The mind boggles. We actually don't deserve to get out of this mess.

AnCapaillMor

gaf1983 wrote: »

And in other news, the good people of south Donegal, in a poll on the election on Thursday, have a Shinner at 40%... and rewarded the Government's decision to ignore their region and hold off elections for 18 months by putting a Fianna Failure in second at 19%. The mind boggles. We actually don't deserve to get out of this mess.

Sinn Fein putting up the case and winning it was a stroke of genius. With the press coverage of it, everyone knows who Pearse O'doherty is and don't know who the others are, there's sfa time to prepare a decent campaign. no pointeven placing bets on this one.

As for the Election, i think i'll go all FG, FF don't have a hope, i think a coaltion is the last thing we need(a goverment arguing with each other and labours and fg's policicies seem to be at odds), labour are fine and good and are for the people but whats good for the people(no pay cuts etc) is not neccesarilly good for the country or the people in the long run.

Mc Love

First thing first - they need to get those gombeens out of city hall and the county council - merge the two authorities! A mayor governing both city and county.

ninty9er

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Will you be canvassing for Peter Power again this time 99er? Good luck on the doorsteps (seriously, hope people at least give you time to set out your stall, as it were)

I will. To be honest with my experience of him he is a good legislator, I know that he is up against it, but he is someone who I believe could constructively hold the next government to account.

He has been a part of an administration that presided over this, but it is unfortunate that younger members of the parliamentary party will lose their seats whilst the older tainted people will languish on the opposition benches for 10 years and then **** off to leave the electorate with no choice in the election then.

There is a guy in Louth called James Carroll who I've known for a number of years who should be allowed a clear run without the threat of Dermot Ahern standing for election and taking a seat that the people of Louth would be better served if James was in it.

There is a guy in Donegal called Brian O'Domhnaill who I met last weekend who is not happy with what has happened and is hell bent that politics needs fighters not observers.

There is a guy in Mayo called Dara Calleary whose seat is under threat but not necessarily from Beverly Flynn.

There is a guy in Cork called Michael McGrath who is shares his constituency with Micheal Martin and is under threat.

With all due respect to Micheal Martin, Brian Cowen, Mary Coughlan et al, they will not be seeking election in 10 years time, they should go now and allow people a better chance for election that have not been party to causing this crisis (or were on the periphery) the chance to sit in seats that they can utilise to hold the next government to account POSITIVELY and look to form a government in the future with different people to those who have been there.

An opposition is ALWAYS needed, and whilst there are certain things I would disagree with the opposition on, they are necessary and were they any good at it there would have been a change of government in 2007.

Politics should be positive not negative and it is the younger generation of politicians who can credibly provide this positivity that is so common overseas.

So without giving you a party political broadcast, that's how I see it.

Liam Byrne

ninty9er wrote: »

I will. To be honest with my experience of him he is a good legislator, I know that he is up against it, but he is someone who I believe could constructively hold the next government to account.

He didn't "hold the current government to account", so what makes you think he'd hold the next one ?

ninty9er

Liam Byrne wrote: »

He didn't "hold the current government to account", so what makes you think he'd hold the next one ?

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Fair enough there have been failings, but the current opposition has failed completely to hold the government to account.

It doesn't excuse it, but he's a comprehensively able legislator. That's what a TD is supposed to do.

gaf1983

ninty9er wrote: »

There is a guy in Mayo called Dara Calleary whose seat is under threat but not necessarily from Beverly Flynn.

Last February I sent Dara Calleary an email which I'm still waiting for him to reply to. Perhaps you could remind him about it ninty9er?

Dear Mr Calleary,

Last November you sent me and many other Irish football fans an email, complete with a Fianna Fáil sponsored petition on fair play, decrying the lack of fair play in Ireland's World Cup qualifier against France.

In his interview with the Limerick Chronicle in the run-up to the local elections last March Mr. Willie O’Dea claimed that Councillor Maurice Quinlivan was involved in some way in the operation of a brothel in Limerick. Now if trying to undermine the character of a candidate of a rival party in the run-up to an election through spreading scurillous and false allegations about them is not an example of blatantly unfair play then I don't know what is.

Why did you vote in support of the motion of confidence for the Minister of Defence this week?

Are you in favour of fair play or against it?

osarusan

ninty9er wrote: »

Fair enough there have been failings, but the current opposition has failed completely to hold the government to account.

What would you suggest they should have done?

liammur

osarusan wrote: »

What would you suggest they should have done?

Nothing is the simple answer. And anyone arguing otherwise is extremely limited.

Bertie ahern knew how to play the electorate, unions and public sector. Throw them a few crumbs while he ate the cake. A large % of people still faill to grasp this most basic point.

Amazotheamazing

ninty9er wrote: »

I will. To be honest with my experience of him he is a good legislator, I know that he is up against it, but he is someone who I believe could constructively hold the next government to account.

He has been a part of an administration that presided over this, but it is unfortunate that younger members of the parliamentary party will lose their seats whilst the older tainted people will languish on the opposition benches for 10 years and then **** off to leave the electorate with no choice in the election then.

There is a guy in Louth called James Carroll who I've known for a number of years who should be allowed a clear run without the threat of Dermot Ahern standing for election and taking a seat that the people of Louth would be better served if James was in it.

There is a guy in Donegal called Brian O'Domhnaill who I met last weekend who is not happy with what has happened and is hell bent that politics needs fighters not observers.

There is a guy in Mayo called Dara Calleary whose seat is under threat but not necessarily from Beverly Flynn.

There is a guy in Cork called Michael McGrath who is shares his constituency with Micheal Martin and is under threat.

With all due respect to Micheal Martin, Brian Cowen, Mary Coughlan et al, they will not be seeking election in 10 years time, they should go now and allow people a better chance for election that have not been party to causing this crisis (or were on the periphery) the chance to sit in seats that they can utilise to hold the next government to account POSITIVELY and look to form a government in the future with different people to those who have been there.

An opposition is ALWAYS needed, and whilst there are certain things I would disagree with the opposition on, they are necessary and were they any good at it there would have been a change of government in 2007.

Politics should be positive not negative and it is the younger generation of politicians who can credibly provide this positivity that is so common overseas.

So without giving you a party political broadcast, that's how I see it.

I fundamentally disagree with your choice of party, notwithstanding the possibility of there being good people in it. I'm pretty sure Peter Power is honest and capable, but I'd like to know why he remains within a party that has inflicted so much damage unto Ireland.

However good Peter Power might be as individual, he has stood by while his party failed to regulate the banks/financial services and has since stood by while senior FF members lied repeatedly to the public about the State of the Nation's finances.

If neither of these events (and there's more I could list) are enough to make Peter Power leave FF, what would?

Really considering canvassing in this election, not for FF obviously (probably FG), just can't believe FF have managed to mess things up this badly.

TheProdigy

ninty9er wrote: »

I will. To be honest with my experience of him he is a good legislator, I know that he is up against it, but he is someone who I believe could constructively hold the next government to account.

He has been a part of an administration that presided over this, but it is unfortunate that younger members of the parliamentary party will lose their seats whilst the older tainted people will languish on the opposition benches for 10 years and then **** off to leave the electorate with no choice in the election then.

There is a guy in Louth called James Carroll who I've known for a number of years who should be allowed a clear run without the threat of Dermot Ahern standing for election and taking a seat that the people of Louth would be better served if James was in it.

There is a guy in Donegal called Brian O'Domhnaill who I met last weekend who is not happy with what has happened and is hell bent that politics needs fighters not observers.

There is a guy in Mayo called Dara Calleary whose seat is under threat but not necessarily from Beverly Flynn.

There is a guy in Cork called Michael McGrath who is shares his constituency with Micheal Martin and is under threat.

With all due respect to Micheal Martin, Brian Cowen, Mary Coughlan et al, they will not be seeking election in 10 years time, they should go now and allow people a better chance for election that have not been party to causing this crisis (or were on the periphery) the chance to sit in seats that they can utilise to hold the next government to account POSITIVELY and look to form a government in the future with different people to those who have been there.

An opposition is ALWAYS needed, and whilst there are certain things I would disagree with the opposition on, they are necessary and were they any good at it there would have been a change of government in 2007.

Politics should be positive not negative and it is the younger generation of politicians who can credibly provide this positivity that is so common overseas.

So without giving you a party political broadcast, that's how I see it.

Give up the ghost buddy, they are all just a bunch of rats trying to get off the ship before it sinks.

Fianna Fail wont be in power after the next election for a very long time, and your only fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. The younger generation politicians think that if they get out now/oppose they may save face and hopefully get back into power with FF, not going to happen because the damage done is irreparable. Any FF member, no matter how good or bad they are, will be generalised and tarnished with the brush of being a thieving lying **** in my mind, because they stood by and watched the damage being inflicted by the other muppets in the government.

I suggest putting away your FF banner because your wasting your time going canvassing next time around.

mitresize5

99er

you mentioned all the able TD's in other parts of the country who will lose their seat while the established FF TD holds on his ...... surely you must count Peter Power and Willie O Dea into this

As the previous poster has said Peter Power has stood by and watched his party ruin the country .... for this reason he's toast and deserveably so

Amazotheamazing

TheProdigy wrote: »

Give up the ghost buddy, they are all just a bunch of rats trying to get off the ship before it sinks.

Fianna Fail wont be in power after the next election for a very long time, and your only fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. The younger generation politicians think that if they get out now/oppose they may save face and hopefully get back into power with FF, not going to happen because the damage done is irreparable. Any FF member, no matter how good or bad they are, will be generalised and tarnished with the brush of being a thieving lying **** in my mind, because they stood by and watched the damage being inflicted by the other muppets in the government.

I suggest putting away your FF banner because your wasting your time going canvassing next time around.

FF could easily end in power in 5 years time depending on how bad things get. You have to remember this is the third time FF have bankrupted Ireland (1930's, 1970/80's) and they've bounced back every time.

We know some form of FF will be about in 5 years time, let's hope it's neither the corrupt wing (Haughey, Aherne etc) or the idiot wing (Cowan, Lenihan etc) in charge by that time.

Raiser

ninty9er wrote: »

He has been a part of an administration that presided over this

An Administration.

A random Administration of which you have heard is it?

- Peter Power is an Accountant or something mind numbing like that, he prefers being on treble the wage for a fifth of the effort, in my opinion, and will not swap paper cuts for political stardom, even though he is, in my opinion, utterly vacous in public office.

How he was ever elected is beyond the thinking Man and the Dogs in the Streets, I mean obviously Lying McTash Rash got the actual votes but surely there was some other Idiot to slot in there?

Personally I think Wayne Dundon should be considered as the next Prick in FFs repertoire - keep the standard consistent and all that.

TheProdigy

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

FF could easily end in power in 5 years time depending on how bad things get. You have to remember this is the third time FF have bankrupted Ireland (1930's, 1970/80's) and they've bounced back every time.

I wouldn't feel that past circumstances are relevant to future elections because all are very different circumstances. Firstly none of the above situations were so devastating in such a modernised society where we are coming off a great deal of prosperity, which will never be witnessed again to the same extent. I would say that the reinstatement of them in 1930 was due to a high loyalty and affiliation to them after gaining autonomy, in the 70's/80's we were not in such a critical situation now as the IMF were never needed, and you can thank your lucky stars for that because if they were needed then we would probably be a very underdeveloped country like what happened to Brazil.

Nobody likes regression and the fact that Ireland will be going back to a non-prosperous society will stick with alot of people imo.

Saying that I do feel that there is one option to which FF could be re-elected, and that is if the current f**k ups attributed to them carry over to the next government and thus people would want further change. So technically the only chance FF have of getting re-elected imo is if they f**k up the country badly enough for the incoming government, and the scum look like they are doing an excellent job at the moment.

bacon&cabbage

liammur wrote: »

No IDA jobs for Limerick since FF got into power in 1997 = No votes.

They deserve to be particularly hammered in both Limerick East and West.

I agree not enough jobs have been created in the region

but to say "No IDA jobs for Limerick since FF got into power in 1997" is completely untrue

after a quick search:

http://www.independent.ie/business/dell-confirms-3000-job-boost-for-limerick-and-bray-457876.html

http://www.idaireland.com/news-media/press-releases/75-new-jobs-for-limerick-/

http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_10007208.shtml

RonMexico

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

I agree not enough jobs have been created in the region

but to say "No IDA jobs for Limerick since FF got into power in 1997" is completely untrue

after a quick search:

http://www.independent.ie/business/dell-confirms-3000-job-boost-for-limerick-and-bray-457876.html

http://www.idaireland.com/news-media/press-releases/75-new-jobs-for-limerick-/

http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_10007208.shtml

That is like two men in the desert, one of whom has a flask full of water and the other is dying of thirst. The man with the water is taking a leak and says to the man dying of thirst - "Crouch down there with your mouth open and..."

Yeah guess which one represents FF and which one represents Limerick. Of course as a long time Shill for FF I fully expect you will be back with more useless drivel from the party hymn sheet. Good to get a heads up on what O'Dea will be spluttering at the door soon though. Thanks.

krudler

Im looking forward to slamming the door in the face of anyone from FF trying to campaign

bacon&cabbage

RonMexico wrote: »

That is like two men in the desert, one of whom has a flask full of water and the other is dying of thirst. The man with the water is taking a leak and says to the man dying of thirst - "Crouch down there with your mouth open and..."

Yeah guess which one represents FF and which one represents Limerick. Of course as a long time Shill for FF I fully expect you will be back with more useless drivel from the party hymn sheet. Good to get a heads up on what O'Dea will be spluttering at the door soon though. Thanks.

What are you on about ?
Liam came out with statement that was untrue - I'm simply pointing out that fact.
Are you saying Liam was correct ?

flutered

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Yeah, Cian Prendiville.

Nice guy who's sincere but not sure he has enough experience to be a TD.

http://en-gb.facebook.com/cian.sp

please explain, not enough experience ?, jeeze at least he is honost, now that is a rare complaint in a td, have you seen how quick they get their snouts in the trough.

ninty9er

Raiser wrote: »

An Administration.

A random Administration of which you have heard is it?

- Peter Power is was an Accountant solicitor or something mind numbing like that, he prefers being on treble the similar wage for a fifth of the a hell ofr a lot more effort, in my opinion, and will not swap paper cuts for political stardom, even though he is, in my opinion, utterly vacous in public office.

How he was ever elected is beyond the thinking Man and the Dogs in the Streets, I mean obviously Lying McTash Rash got the actual votes but surely there was some other Idiot to slot in there?

Personally I think Wayne Dundon should be considered as the next Prick in FFs repertoire - keep the standard consistent and all that.

Have you looked around. Have you ever taken not of what goes on inside Leinster House? Do you think there's just Dáil and Seanad chamber and a bar? You need to seriously wake up to how our political system works. Quite a lot of proposed legislation comes though committee stage with representatives from ALL parties on them. He has been on The Transport Committee and chaired the Justice Committee as well as the Child Protection Committee reviewing the legislation surrounding statutory rape after the CC Case.

Calling someone who was deemed capable enough of that vacuous sugests you could look elsewhere to cast your aspersions.

He's been a legislator for just over 8 years. There are people there longer that you could accuse of doing much less. I'm not going to attack anyone, it up to them and their supporters to sell them to you, but you should look at the facts and not your own ill-informed idiocy in making your decisions.

mitresize5 wrote: »

As the previous poster has said Peter Power has stood by and watched his party ruin the country .... for this reason he's toast and deserveably so

One of the problems that has been obvious over the past few weeks is that even the 4rd most senior minister in government isn't in the loop of power, how do you expect it from someone who has been a backbench TD for over 50% of their time in the Dáil. It's not an excuse, he should have been doing more, but in organisations decisions to support or not support what is beind done are taken by majority, in Fianna Fáil's case and other democratic parties in the Oireachtas this happens at Parliamentary Party meetings.

4 seats have to be filled before March. The list of candidates is relatively obvious at this point. Of them who would you have fill the seats and why?

I'm not going to attack anyone as being vacuous or useless without even going to the basic bother of finding out what their background is, but there are reasons to elect all candidates, but some outweigh others. There are reasons not to elect all of them, but negative politics has broken our political system so forget why people shouldn't be elected, tell me why others should be elected above them without using negative descriptors or positive descriptors that convey a negative message.

You'll find it difficult, but I reckon it's a worthwhile exercise.

liammur

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

I agree not enough jobs have been created in the region

but to say "No IDA jobs for Limerick since FF got into power in 1997" is completely untrue

after a quick search:

http://www.independent.ie/business/dell-confirms-3000-job-boost-for-limerick-and-bray-457876.html

http://www.idaireland.com/news-media/press-releases/75-new-jobs-for-limerick-/

http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_10007208.shtml

The funny thing is, a quick search or a thorough search will yield the same results - virtually nil. The only link there of any significance is the 3rd one, and it is on this basis we can say under 14 years of FF governance we got 300 IDA jobs, less than what many small towns got. What a disgrace.

bacon&cabbage

liammur wrote: »

The funny thing is, a quick search or a thorough search will yield the same results - virtually nil. The only link there of any significance is the 3rd one, and it is on this basis we can say under 14 years of FF governance we got 300 IDA jobs, less than what many small towns got. What a disgrace.

As I said it was a quick search, I know that Vistakon (2nd link) has more than tripled in size in the last 14 years and now employs nearly 700 people directly.

You've admitted that your original post was false, which was my point - thanks

liammur

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

As I said it was a quick search, I know that Vistakon (2nd link) has more than tripled in size in the last 14 years and now employs nearly 700 people directly.

You've admitted that your original post was false, which was my point - thanks

No, what I'm saying is this current government can't take any credit for jobs where a company that was already in the region prior to 1997 expands. Dell announced 50 jobs in 2008, surely we shouldn't be bowing to FF because of this? And we haven't seen any jobs since.
They brought Northern Trust into the region, but unfortunately these companies were few and far between over 14 years of unprecedented growth, whereas Galway got companies like SAP/IBM/Boston Scientific (thousands alone)/Cisco/ etc.

Galway/Cork are booming, and above is the reason why.

Amazotheamazing

flutered wrote: »

please explain, not enough experience ?, jeeze at least he is honost, now that is a rare complaint in a td, have you seen how quick they get their snouts in the trough.

I just think anyone going for the Dail in their earlier 20's is massively short on real world experience, tbh. How is a guy in his early 20's really going to understand what it's like to be 50 and unemployed, or 40+ and unable to pay your mortgage etc.

No offence to Cian Prendiville, who I'm sure will give it every thing he has to do a good job, but at some point experience does count.

Like I said, I'd love to see him on the council gaining that experience.

liammur

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

I just think anyone going for the Dail in their earlier 20's is massively short on real world experience, tbh. How is a guy in his early 20's really going to understand what it's like to be 50 and unemployed, or 40+ and unable to pay your mortgage etc.

No offence to Cian Prendiville, who I'm sure will give it every thing he has to do a good job, but at some point experience does count.

Like I said, I'd love to see him on the council gaining that experience.

It's a double edged sword, the likes of willie o dea has all the experience in the world and we can honestly say he did nothing for middle class limerick. There have been practically no jobs for graduates in Limerick since 2000.
I believe if you are good enough, you are old enough.

Amazotheamazing

liammur wrote: »

It's a double edged sword, the likes of willie o dea has all the experience in the world and we can honestly say he did nothing for middle class limerick. There have been practically no jobs for graduates in Limerick since 2000.
I believe if you are good enough, you are old enough.

Maybe, the failure of Willie O'Dea is a mystery because he's (despite appearances) a very intelligent guy. I've no idea why he's been such an awful TD for Limerick.

liammur

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Maybe, the failure of Willie O'Dea is a mystery because he's (despite appearances) a very intelligent guy. I've no idea why he's been such an awful TD for Limerick.

Does he even know he has been an outrageous flop?

But experience is certainly preferrable. I'd like to see Noonan and O Donnell get in, J O' Sullivan and whilst it would be great if FF got no seat it won't happen. I'd go for Power over O Dea.