I was asked for my religion today..

gurramok

Yes, I was visiting a clinic at the Mater Hospital and upon regging ya wan behind the counter went through my details and landed me with this bomb of 'what religion I am'.

I just went 'wtf' in my head and after an awkward slience said 'err no religion'. Then she just wobbled her head and promptly kept typing into her pc.

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

Thought Ireland was in the 21st century and why would a hospital care about my religious beliefs?

Brendog

Science and Religion in the same place?



DOES NOT COMPUTE!

squod

Was it a trade in or a straight swap?

-Trek-

I would have said jedi, but she probally would'nt get it.

sdanseo

Could be of some significance - if you're on your last legs and you want the last rites, or are a Jehovah's witness and need a blood transfusion etc

Silverfish

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, I was visiting a clinic at the Mater Hospital and upon regging ya wan behind the counter went through my details and landed me with this bomb of 'what religion I am'.

I just went 'wtf' in my head and after an awkward slience said 'err no religion'. Then she just wobbled her head and promptly kept typing into her pc.

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

Thought Ireland was in the 21st century and why would a hospital care about my religious beliefs?

It's actually in case you're about to die for whatever reason and they need to know whether you'd want a priest for the last rites or a Rabbi or whatever.

alwaysadub

In case you need a blood transfusion maybe?
Only reason i can think of.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Should've said "Football is my religion" then they'd be obliged to supply you with Sky Sports on your deathbed

Absurdum

gurramok wrote: »

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?

*Catholic hospital

daymobrew

The Mater was set up by nuns, though, according to the Mission Statement, it isn't anymore.

Today, the Mater Misericordiae University Hospital continues in its healing ministry to the sick, regardless of class, creed, or nationality.

Silverfish

Can't believe nobody asked what was the Mater with you yet.

orourkeda

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, I was visiting a clinic at the Mater Hospital and upon regging ya wan behind the counter went through my details and landed me with this bomb of 'what religion I am'.

I just went 'wtf' in my head and after an awkward slience said 'err no religion'. Then she just wobbled her head and promptly kept typing into her pc.

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

Thought Ireland was in the 21st century and why would a hospital care about my religious beliefs?

Isnt there a religion that considers blood transfusions a bad thing. (Jehovah's Witnesses I believe)

Asking for religion is probably an arse covering exercise on the hospitals part.

People may object to certain treatments on religous grounds so on that basis the hospital may ask in order to know how best to proceed. I am open to correction though.

maringo

Nothin strange about that - maybe they expected you to pop your clogs!

muffy

in case you die so they know whether to call a priest or a vicar or a rabbi or am imam or scientology type thing I should imagine. I was asked this in the Bons hospital and I said "I think I'm a Catholic LOL?". Wouldn't be offended at the question but would be offended if they used my belief(or rather lack there of) against me at a later date.

mikemac

gurramok wrote: »

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

So a chaplain can visit you.

And a few years back a lady was given a blood transfusion and she sued the hospital as she was a Jehovah's witness.
That's the kind of thanks you get for saving somebodies life, should have let her die tbh

But the reason for the form is for the chaplain

Biggins

Its in the likelihood that you die.

Should they call a Rabbi, a Catholic priest or just the grave diggers!

kincsem

She was filling in the form.

Go to Heaven? [Y/N]

MistyCheese

They want to make sure they don't give a Jewish person pork by mistake.

Nothing worse than a pork by mistake.

Hazys

You should have said "Rastafarian, Mon"...they are obliged to to give you free weed while you stay there then

pablomakaveli

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, I was visiting a clinic at the Mater Hospital and upon regging ya wan behind the counter went through my details and landed me with this bomb of 'what religion I am'.

I just went 'wtf' in my head and after an awkward slience said 'err no religion'. Then she just wobbled her head and promptly kept typing into her pc.

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

Thought Ireland was in the 21st century and why would a hospital care about my religious beliefs?

If the patient is a Jehovah's Witness there can be issues with blood transfusions as their religion does'nt allow it. The questions probably asked because of this.

gurramok

No, nothing to do with a blood transfusion or about to die stuff, I was actually at the Fracture clinic there. I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

Though there was a nun in a wheelchair in the queue, I wonder if they asked her religion?:)

Killer Pigeon

And again ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA

pablomakaveli

gurramok wrote: »

No, nothing to do with a blood transfusion or about to die stuff, I was actually at the Fracture clinic there. I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

Though there was a nun in a wheelchair in the queue, I wonder if they asked her religion?:)

There are still other issues. For example a devout muslim woman would probably want to see a female doctor. If they knoow the persons religion before hand they at least they can avoid trouble later.

alwaysadub

gurramok wrote: »

No, nothing to do with a blood transfusion or about to die stuff, I was actually at the Fracture clinic there. I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

Though there was a nun in a wheelchair in the queue, I wonder if they asked her religion?:)

You could still have a heart attack or something and drop dead in a fracture clinic-you might go in with a fracture but come out dead. You just never know!

m@cc@

gurramok wrote: »

I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

You should probably get the old ticker checked out if you're that easily shocked.

gurramok

alwaysadub wrote: »

You could still have a heart attack or something and drop dead in a fracture clinic-you might go in with a fracture but come out dead. You just never know!

Good point Actually, the noise of electric saws on casts sorta made my heart racing. Do those nurses there have apprenticeships in carpentry or something?

orourkeda

MistyCheese wrote: »

They want to make sure they don't give a Jewish person pork by mistake.

Nothing worse than a pork by mistake.

nothing worse than a badly placed sausage.

bangers all round

orourkeda

gurramok wrote: »

No, nothing to do with a blood transfusion or about to die stuff, I was actually at the Fracture clinic there. I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

Though there was a nun in a wheelchair in the queue, I wonder if they asked her religion?:)

They probably just asked how's your gee love?

robinph

muffy wrote: »

in case you die so they know whether to call a priest or a vicar or a rabbi or am imam or scientology type thing I should imagine

I'd rather they called a doctor before I got to that stage.

biko

Don't let the Taigs grind you down!

No surrender!

lmaopml

gurramok, I'm often shocked at some of the questions asked by the 'institutions'...

There is usually a good reason, even if it's not immediately apparent.

Voluntary surveys are another matter! I completed one for my sis online lately ( under pressure ) for Debenhams, and they wanted to know the, ''description' if she didn't know the name'', of the person at the till who served her...

..now, THAT's scary! Hope my employers don't start that kind of malarky!

Still though, she could win a thousand euro blah blah...so ye know, recession and all that stuff

gurramok

orourkeda wrote: »

They probably just asked how's your gee love?

Seriously when I was in that queue today, talk about a range of characters.

The nun looked literally about 100 in a wheelchair and she promptly took her ticket without a bother.

Among the queue was a fella who look like a gaunt Norman Wisdom who hopped out of a wheelchair upon arrival, a bloke in his 60's who never had a wash and looked like Elvis with dyed hair, 2 fairly middle aged skangers (do they exist?) who had the mobile ring tone of the Time Tunnel(which was cool).

It really was a hotch patch of people from all areas of society but...ya wan asking for my religion at the counter took me aback.

What happens if she put me down as an atheist, would someone come to my aid if the ticker stopped?

mikemac

gurramok wrote: »

What happens if she put me down as an atheist,

She ticked the straight to hell box on the computer

Taceom

gurramok wrote: »

No, nothing to do with a blood transfusion or about to die stuff, I was actually at the Fracture clinic there. I was just taken aback that in this day and age they ask for religion in a hospital.

Within a hospital the registration forms are the same regardless of what clinic you are attending.

gurramok

Taceom wrote: »

Within a hospital the registration forms are the same regardless of what clinic you are attending.

Have they not copped on that religion ain't important to many people these days?

brummytom

gurramok wrote: »

Among the queue was a fella who look like a gaunt Norman Wisdom

Jesus, he can't have been well :eek:

HarryPotter41

gurramok wrote: »

Have they not copped on that religion ain't important to many people these days?

But to a lot of people it is and personally I would like to have the last rites if I keeled over ( most likely from old age from the wait in a and e )

twowheelsonly

gurramok wrote: »

Have they not copped on that religion ain't important to many people these days?

....but is to others..

gurramok

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

But to a lot of people it is and personally I would like to have the last rites if I keeled over ( most likely from old age from the wait in a and e )

twowheelsonly wrote: »

....but is to others..

And what about the many others where it is not?

mikemac

gurramok wrote: »

Have they not copped on that religion ain't important to many people these days?

Maybe a lot of peoples views, possibly even your own would change if you were lying on your deathbed in the Mater hospital

The information is also needed for maternity wards, infants in danger can be baptised by the chaplain

gurramok

feelingstressed wrote: »

Maybe a lot of peoples views, possibly even your own would change if you were lying on your deathbed in the Mater hospital

The information is also needed for maternity wards, infants in danger can be baptised by the chaplain

If I was on my deathbed, how would my view change? You really have to explain that one.

twowheelsonly

gurramok wrote: »

And what about the many others where it is not?

You can just answer No religion, no interest or whatever. If Religion doesn't make any difference to you then why make an issue of it.
On the other hand there are a significant amount of people to whom Religion is very important, including Muslims, Jews etc.

You get asked the same question when you go to Jail by the way!!

Sulmac

As well as for "last rites" reasons, it's also to cover themselves legally - i.e. so you won't sue them if they do something to you that's against your religion (such as a blood transfusion) in cases where you can't formally give consent, like if you're unconscious.

gurramok

twowheelsonly wrote: »

You can just answer No religion, no interest or whatever. If Religion doesn't make any difference to you then why make an issue of it.
On the other hand there are a significant amount of people to whom Religion is very important, including Muslims, Jews etc.

You get asked the same question when you go to Jail by the way!!

Is religion not important to Catholics & Protestants also?:rolleyes:

Haven't been to jail yet so wouldn't know about that scenario!

mikemac

twowheelsonly wrote: »

You get asked the same question when you go to Jail by the way!!

Speaking from experience? :P

drkpower

Sulmac wrote: »

As well as for "last rites" reasons, it's also to cover themselves legally - i.e. so you won't sue them if they do something to you that's against your religion (such as a blood transfusion) in cases where you can't formally give consent, like if you're unconscious.

No its not.
A doctor cannot refrain from giving someone a blood transfusion merely because they said they were a Jehovahs Witnesss when they booked into hospital. Quite a few Jehovahs Witnessses accept blood transfusions.

Keptic

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, I was visiting a clinic at the Mater Hospital and upon regging ya wan behind the counter went through my details and landed me with this bomb of 'what religion I am'.

I just went 'wtf' in my head and after an awkward slience said 'err no religion'. Then she just wobbled her head and promptly kept typing into her pc.

Now, what frigging relevance is my religion in order to get treatment in a hospital?:mad:

Thought Ireland was in the 21st century and why would a hospital care about my religious beliefs?

I was asked the same 6 years ago in James Connolly hospital in Blanchardstown. I understand that because it's a hospital, there is a certain probability that you may find yourself in a very miserable situation and therefore want a priest/imam/whoever.. In case if you loose consciousness, they would automatically send a priest to give you whatever they give... not too sure about the details though. As long as there were no repercussions for answering "no religion" it's all grand and I wouldn't worry about it.

twowheelsonly

gurramok wrote: »

Is religion not important to Catholics & Protestants also?:rolleyes:

Yip.... Hence the words 'including' and 'etc'

feelingstressed wrote: »

Speaking from experience? :P

Another Yip..... Except that I'm the 'Overpaid, Underworked, Public Service Pension Robbing' Person asking the question
(On the days that I bother to go in of course...lol )

mikemac

Anyone remember this case?

The High Court tonight intervened to save the life of a seriously ill African woman by ordering a Dublin hospital to give her a life-saving blood transfusion.

The 23-year-old Congolese woman, who suffered a major haemorrhage today after giving birth to a healthy baby boy, had refused the treatment on religious grounds because she is a Jehovah’s Witness.

Believed to be the first case of its kind involving an adult in Ireland, the court ruled the Coombe Hospital must put the interests of the child first and save the mother’s life.

It is understood she had lost 80% of her blood.

Now let's give the Irish medical staff some graditude, oh wait:

The husband of the Jehovah’s Witness who was given a blood transfusion against her wishes last Thursday tried to prevent the procedure going ahead but was refused access to the hospital ward.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation is now considering taking legal action against either the state or the Coombe maternity hospital in Dublin over the transfusion.

“No matter which way you look at this case, the patient’s rights have been trampled on. There could be a civil case taken on behalf of the mother, or a community case on behalf of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

Adrian Lawlor, who oversees the Swords branch of Jehovah’s Witnesses, said the case had thrown the rights of the individual “back into the Dark Ages”. The group has likened the act to rape.

I guess the Mater Hospital want information on their patients

And it's one thing for an adult but they have same policy for children

In 2002, the group considered suing the state on behalf of the parents of a child who was given a blood transfusion. The two-year-old was injured after a car crashed through a garden wall as he played at his home in Clonmel. The group argued that the constitutional rights of the parents as legal guardians were ignored during the incident.

Sugar Free

It's been pointed out already but my girlfriend works in the Mater and the religion question is purely for the last rites or whatever equivalents there are.

Jazzy

um, really simple answer - a hospital would need to know as regards treatment.
for example - jehovas witnesses won accept blood transfusions iirc.


really really simple explanation and no need to post a thread on boards enquiring about it. unless you want to stir up the beehive with another religion thread