Are they allowed do this?

jack157

I'm 17 and in 6th year at the moment and i'm growing a beard, I keep it neat and clean. It's roughly a inch to a inch and a half long. Anyway a few weeks ago I passed the school principal and she pulled me to the side and start asking me about my beard, She then told me to trim it because it looks un-hygienic and there used to be a rule in the school forbidding students from growing a beard because it wasn't fair to other students that can't grow one. As it stands I absolutely refuse to trim it as a matter of morals.

My question is can schools do this? Is it discrimination?

In my opinion that is just like saying "You can't have that adidas bag because other students can't afford it".

Thanks in advanced!

MagicMarker

Shut up child!

humberklog

As "matter of morals"?

Berty

Tell her to trim her minge.

liah

jack157 wrote: »

She then told me to trim it because it looks un-hygienic and there used to be a rule in the school forbidding students from growing a beard because it wasn't fair to other students that can't grow one. As it stands I absolutely refuse to trim it as a matter of morals.

...Seriously? :pac:

amdublin

Oh for god's sake.

17 year olds with beards look ridiculous. Shave it and stop being so silly.

Next you'll be going on about wanting to wear a cravat instead of a tie.

jack157

humberklog wrote: »

As "matter of morals"?

The fact that i don't think it is morally correct for her to do that.

sligopark

of course they can unless of course you claim they are right wing conservatives and its not that you want to grow a beard but your genetics determine it and so not your choice other than to grow one ...

Leonid

Mattingly! I thought I told you to shave those sideburns! that's it you're off the team!

alwaysadub

Yes schools can do it.
No, it's not discrimination.
Shave!!

Mr. Manager

jack157 wrote: »

...there used to be a rule in the school forbidding students from growing a beard because it wasn't fair to other students that can't grow one...

I would love to see your school journal that reads "Pupils are not allowed grow facial hair as it is unfair on those that can't"

jack157 wrote: »

My question is can schools do this? Is it discrimination?

Yes. No.

jack157 wrote: »

In my opinion that is just like saying "You can't have that adidas bag because other students can't afford it".

Your opinion is wrong. Fact

squod

It's for beard sex right?

jack157

liah wrote: »

...Seriously? :pac:

Yeah thats what she said, I think it is a load of bull to be honest

TheZohanS

You would think school would be preparing you for the real world.

OP you could argue that it's discrimination, you'd probably be better off saying that you suffer from acne and your beard covers it etc. Also remember that November is "Movember" so tons of people will be growing moustaches and beards for charity so you'll get away with it.

Regarding "morals" etc....jaysus OP....

sligopark

jack157 wrote: »

The fact that i don't think it is morally correct for her to do that.

you 're right she must be an intolerant so and so - begin your arguement on her intolerance and her non right to be so

amdublin

jack157 wrote: »

The fact that i don't think it is morally correct for her to do that.

Morally she can do what she likes. Her school, her rules.

You can always go to another school if you don't like her rules.

Seriously stop being so silly and doing and saying silly things. You're making a show of yourself. Just shave the beard and give her a big smile when you go back after the mid-term.

fonecrusher1

Ah bless him.

Remember the days when such matters were terribly important? ah bless.

starbelgrade

OP - having a bit of bum fluff doesn't actually qualify as having a beard.

Talk to them and do it exactly like this.


"I shaved this morning, I just can't *pause**LOUD BELCH* help it."

themadchef

Fight the powwah.....

Then shave your pubes in protest and spend all day scratching instead of studying.

starbelgrade

themadchef wrote: »

Fight the powwah.....

Then shave your pubes in protest and spend all day scratching instead of studying.

He should shave his pubes then make eyebrows out of them with double sided sticky tape.

onedaylikethis

AH JEYZUZ. Give the girl a break, if she wants to grow a beard whats the problem. Nothing wrong with a hairy muff:D.

phasers

Young Men grow beards so they don't get carded.

You're fooling nobody OP!

ninjasurfer1

Find a girl with a hairy lip and demand the principal tells her to shave as well!!
After all, its unfair to all of the other girls who can't grow one!!

foxinsox

Years ago you would have just got a slap around the ear, a kick in the arse and you would run home and shave straight away...end of story

Nowadays, I'm not so sure, everything is gone so PC that it is hard to answer your question...

You might find this an interesting read:

http://www.equalitytribunal.ie/index.asp?locID=165&docID=1977

I skimmed through it

jack157

ninjasurfer1 wrote: »

Find a girl with a hairy lip and demand the principal tells her to shave as well!!
After all, its unfair to all of the other girls who can't grow one!!

Trust me there is plenty of girls with hairy upper lips to use!

K-9

Career in a Union planned?

PanchoVilla

Just shave it off and stop causing trouble ya big hairy communist! You're 17, you don't have the right to do whatever you want yet.

jack157

foxinsox wrote: »

Years ago you would have just got a slap around the ear, a kick in the arse and you would run home and shave straight away...end of story

Nowadays, I'm not so sure, everything is gone so PC that it is hard to answer your question...

You might find this an interesting read:

http://www.equalitytribunal.ie/index.asp?locID=165&docID=1977

I skimmed through it

Thanks for that. That reminded me of a story last year about a girl that had her hair dyed purple and she got suspended and wasn't allowed sit her leaving cert, The evening herald actually covered the story.

sligopark

foxinsox wrote: »

Nowadays, I'm not so sure, everything is gone so PC that it is hard to answer your question...

oh god don't encourage him ...

foxinsox wrote: »

You might find this an interesting read:

http://www.equalitytribunal.ie/index.asp?locID=165&docID=1977

I skimmed through it

aarrgghhh

BaconZombie

Tell them you can't for religious reasons.
Problem solved, if they ask what religion you are or they there records say you are "x" religion then ask them "Do you really want to ask that Question?"

They would be setting themselves up for a possible discrimination issues.

Absurdum

jack157 wrote: »

I'm 17 and in 6th year at the moment and i'm growing a beard, I keep it neat and clean. It's roughly a inch to a inch and a half long. Anyway a few weeks ago I passed the school principal and she pulled me to the side and start asking me about my beard, She then told me to trim it because it looks un-hygienic and there used to be a rule in the school forbidding students from growing a beard because it wasn't fair to other students that can't grow one. As it stands I absolutely refuse to trim it as a matter of morals.

My question is can schools do this? Is it discrimination?

In my opinion that is just like saying "You can't have that adidas bag because other students can't afford it".

Thanks in advanced!

for ****s sake, girls are not supposed to have beards

jack157

BaconZombie wrote: »

Tell them you can't for religious reasons.
Problem solved, if they ask what religion you are or they there records say you are "x" religion then ask them "Do you really want to ask that Question?"

They would be setting themselves up for a possible discrimination issues.

Oh yes, I am a married Amish man. That will go down well :rolleyes:

foxinsox

jack157 wrote: »

Thanks for that. That reminded me of a story last year about a girl that had her hair dyed purple and she got suspended and wasn't allowed sit her leaving cert, The evening herald actually covered the story.

Years ago I was refused into a Hotel disco, because my hair was dyed blonde and spiky (apologies, it was the 80's)

Can you imagine that happening today?

I don't think so.....

I think people should be allowed have their hair whatever colour they want.

The beard thing:

If it is a "I couldn't be bothered shaving sometimes cos I'm lazy"
I've no time for that messing and think in a professional environment it looks bad ..

If someone decided to grow a beard ...that's their business...

BUT... OP if you want to score girls, I'm sure there are statistics to back it up, I don't think the majority of women find beards attractive..

Personally ... bearded men ... I just couldn't go there...

sligopark

BaconZombie wrote: »

Tell them you can't for religious reasons.

Problem solved, if they ask what religion you are or they there records say you are "x" religion then ask them "Do you really want to ask that Question?"

They would be setting themselves up for a possible discrimination issues.

good one for you Jack you new muslim convert - also do mutter under your breath "suicide" and "bomb" along with some unintelligable sh1t and you're onto a winner other wise just shave

Bob Z

Absurdum wrote: »

for ****s sake, girls are not supposed to have beards

Yes but they should have the RIGHT to a beard

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Rabble Rabble

Is that Kangaroo court now abandoned?

Biggins

Unless you can CLEARLY show its religious discrimination (such as the Sikh religion or your an orthodox Jew abiding with their codes), yes, they can ask you to do this.

Chuchoter

Maybe she's trying to spare you the embarrassment of looking like a retard 17 year old with a beard.

aDeener

amdublin wrote: »

Oh for god's sake.

17 year olds with beards look ridiculous. Shave it and stop being so silly.

Next you'll be going on about wanting to wear a cravat instead of a tie.

a proper beard on a 17 year old doesn't look any more ridiculous than a beard on a 27 year old :rolleyes:

ringadingding

Trust me op, it looks silly.
I can picture it.
Let it go.

kneeelix

I needed a laugh!the comments on this are priceless.
on a serious note i came across this twice in my time in school. I had two friends, one was white with a large beard the other was black with a large blue afro. one of them got hounded by the principal. can anybody guess which one?

why not just shave it off and you and your mates wear some of those joke shop abe lincoln beards for a week. then everybody can have a beard if they so wish:D

jack157

crayolastereo wrote: »

Maybe she's trying to spare you the embarrassment of looking like a retard 17 year old with a beard.

Do you think i care if people look at me as a 17 year old retard with a beard?

The answer is No I don't care

Absurdum

Bob Z wrote: »

Yes but they should have the RIGHT to a beard

:D:D:D:D:D:D

stop oppressing transsexuals :mad::mad::mad:

fullback4glin

I thought you were a mod because of the bold, turns out I'm totally wrong. But please explain how it is a fact that he is wrong

Your opinion is wrong. Fact[/QUOTE]

ringadingding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_d5hDinsA

sligopark

kneeelix wrote: »

on a serious note i came across this twice in my time in school. I had two friends, one was white with a large beard the other was black with a large blue afro. one of them got hounded by the principal. can anybody guess which one?

the transexual one?

kneeelix

...Lucky guess sligopark.......you win this round

Ronin247

Tell her it is religious discrimination because if you were a sikh then you would be allowed a beard.They treat you differently because you are not a sikh..........discrimination.

Hated rules like that when I was in school

CoalBucket

Shave the beard and stop bein a pain in the arse, not shaving on "moral" grounds, give me a break. You're 17 not 50, i blame the dude in the hangover

Flimbos

jack157 wrote: »

I'm 17 and in 6th year at the moment and i'm growing a beard, I keep it neat and clean. It's roughly a inch to a inch and a half long.

An inch long eh?

I think you should wait til Movember 1st, then style it into a Hercule Poirot.