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M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

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    #422
    Jayuu
    Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    jd wrote: »
    Oh I Agree, I wonder what they'll do about this LILO

    But aren't there emergency exits off the M6 after Athlone. I remember being quite surprised to see them on a motorway. Perhaps they'll just do something like that.


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    #423
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Jayuu wrote: »
    But aren't there emergency exits off the M6 after Athlone. I remember being quite surprised to see them on a motorway. Perhaps they'll just do something like that.
    There are indeed, and they said it'll be gated and leads to publicly-owned land - so it doesn't violate motorway regs.


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    #424
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    spacetweek wrote: »
    There are indeed, and they said it'll be gated and leads to publicly-owned land - so it doesn't violate motorway regs.

    It will be a major traffic control operation when the big timber trucks come lumbering out of the forest :D


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    #425
    Dingle Berry
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Dingle Berry


    I have requested that information from the NRA and they have not bothered replying.

    When is it due to start?


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    #426
    PseudoFamous
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Dingle Berry wrote: »
    I have requested that information from the NRA and they have not bothered replying.

    When is it due to start?

    June or something, but it's no use till it's finished anyway..


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    #427
    Niles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    PseudoFamous wrote: »
    June or something, but it's no use till it's finished anyway..

    Yeah, the official commence date 1st June according to here.

    Yay, looking forward to the delays at the Beehive... :rolleyes:

    I suppose it'll be worth it in the end, but that's a while away yet.


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    #428
    cargo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    It will be a major traffic control operation when the big timber trucks come lumbering out of the forest :D

    Would it be possible that they are only a secondary entrance and only to be used in emergency? i.e. if there's a large fire on the property these become the route in for fire tenders etc?

    I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these woodlands have another entrance into them.


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    #429
    Dingle Berry
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Dingle Berry


    Thanks Niles. Great Information. Did not know they existed.


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    #430
    ForzaSaints
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭ForzaSaints


    Didn't have a clue they existed either. Cheers!


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    #431
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Map.


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    #432
    lottpaul
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭lottpaul


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Map.

    Sorry -- but from local knowledge this is not the route.

    e.g much of the southern section is shown to the east of the present N11 but is in fact west of it.


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    #433
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Most of it is fenced and clearly visible on Google Maps. :)


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    #434
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    lottpaul wrote: »
    Sorry -- but from local knowledge this is not the route.

    e.g much of the southern section is shown to the east of the present N11 but is in fact west of it.
    How embarrassing! I will try harder I swear :)

    Spongey, I don't see the trace of the fenced-off part on Google Maps. Could I trouble you to draw it for me? :)


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    #435
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    By and large parallel and right beside old road.


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    #436
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Anyone know who the contractor and designers are for this scheme?

    I believe Arup are employers rep


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    #437
    JM Skipton
    Registered Users Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭JM Skipton


    I have heard it is BAM/Balfour Beatty, but not 100% sure


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    #438
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    By and large parallel and right beside old road.
    Thanks, I can see it on Streetview now. I've amended my map. Surprised they were able to have it parallel the old road so closely and still maintain limited access.


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    #439
    lottpaul
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭lottpaul


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Thanks, I can see it on Streetview now. I've amended my map. Surprised they were able to have it parallel the old road so closely and still maintain limited access.


    Looks spot on. :)

    Many thanks.


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    #440
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Anyone know who the contractor and designers are for this scheme?

    I believe Arup are employers rep



    Employers rep is RPS..........

    Contractors Are BAM/Balfour beaty

    Their designers for the construction are not finalised yet from what i hear.........could be Mott McDonald, Arup or one or two others.

    Are you job hunting?


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    #441
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    luckily I'm ok :-) but its good to know hwo the movers and shakers are


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    #442
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    This road has always been described as dangerous and the RSA stats bear this out.

    Between 2005 and 2009, there were 6 fatalities, 8 serious accidents, and 35 minor ones. Very bad record there.

    And considering this road has been much-delayed, originally meant to start about 6 years ago or something, the sad thing is that all those people died for nothing really.


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    #443
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭jd


    There was a report in the Sunday Times that there is a delay in the commencement of this scheme and that the NRA are threatening to take the contract away from Bam Balfour Beatty.


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    #444
    dmeehan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭dmeehan


    Did they say why there was a delay? If they take the contract away that will only add more delays.


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    #445
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭jd


    dmeehan wrote: »
    Did they say why there was a delay? If they take the contract away that will only add more delays.

    BBB want to renegotiate elements of the contract


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    #446
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    jd wrote: »
    BBB want to renegotiate elements of the contract

    ffs! :mad:


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    #447
    Irish and Proud
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    dmeehan wrote: »
    Did they say why there was a delay? If they take the contract away that will only add more delays.

    I would choose more delays if taking the contract from BBB sets a precedent in that the NRA does not entertain time wasting in signing contracts - if BBB are not happy with the contract, they should simply withdraw and stop behaving like children IMO - the contract is a contract which they tendered for - question is, why the hell did they tender for it in the first place???

    FFS is right :mad:!


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    #448
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Irish and Proud wrote: »
    I would choose more delays if taking the contract from BBB sets a precedent in that the NRA does not entertain time wasting in signing contracts - if BBB are not happy with the contract, they should simply withdraw and stop behaving like children IMO - the contract is a contract which they tendered for - question is, why the hell did they tender for it in the first place???

    FFS is right :mad:!

    I suspect that the delay experienced since the tender would allow BBB to exercise a material adverse change or similar aspect to the contract. Annoying at this stage if the funding has now been made available (eventually).


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    #449
    Bullseye1
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    God I hope this is not delayed.


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    #450
    PoolDude
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭PoolDude


    Any more news onn this? Thx.


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    #451
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭jd


    Looks like a delay :(
    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/like-winning-the-lottery-for-bypass-landowners-3084827.html
    Meanwhile, on the N11 Arklow Rathnew, including the Gorey Service Area, contracts have been delayed pending negotiations with the preferred bidder in this case.

    'As a result the commencement date will be deferred for a few months,' added the County Manager.


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