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Berlin 2016: Back to Basics
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:-) moslammed in work and slammed at home with sick babies etc
so all very stressful stuff. Decided Tuesday I was going to skip BHAA race and I'm glad I did as it would have been a disaster.
Monday: 8 miles @ 7.15 pace nice run with company.
Tuesday: 6 miles @ 7 minute pace. Poxy night in hospital,was going to skip run but manned up and got out. Was in a bit of a fluster and forgot to pay for parking so got my car clamped. Sometimes the world seems to conspire against you!
Wednesday: enforced day off. Close to mental breakdown
Thursday: 8 mile run, no watch. This was epic for many reasons, had to literally drag myself out the door for it, I was hungry tired and well pissed off. Was going to stop after a mile of running into a gale force wind but carried on, anothr 1/2 mile later the rain hit me, I was close to tears. Manned up and got it done. Felt like superman after it. Absolutely character building. No race could hurt as much as this run. FACT!
Friday: 9 mile run, no watch. Savage weather. Stopped after 5 miles and took 5 minutrs to take in the sun and my surroundings. Most pleasant run of the year.
Saturday: 8 mile hilly run @ 6.30 pace. There was supposed to be a 5k to show solidarity with Boston marathon on Sunday afternoon in the Phoenix park. I knew I wouldn't make it so this was my own little tribute. Donned my Boston marathon jacket and hit a hill run I used while training for Boston a few years ago. A combination of anger, nostalgia, excitement and music pounding in my ears meant I absolutely buried myself (and I mean buried) on this run. There is one hill that requires you to drop into 2nd gear in your car it's so steep. I was running full tilt up it. Really enjoyable and a little emotional for a number of reasons but the endorphin rush was massive.
Sunday: In an absolute heap, quads in a jocker so was going to take the day off. Baby needed formulae so instead of driving to supermarket I said I'd jog the 2 miles there and the 2 miles back. Made the mistake of putting music on again and a mixture of the tunes and thinking about some of the stellar performances by some of our boards friends in Boston and London this week meant I took a bit of a detour and hammered on 8 miles sub 7 minute pace. Probably a massive mistake but was very enjoyable.
The last 4 months have been a disaster for me in work. I'm essentially covering 2 guys who are on leave, this is one of the reasons I didn't sign up for a Spring marathon, knew it would be too stressful. However I'm now seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. Things are easing off and should be back to normal in the next 2-4 weeks.
42 weeks to donadea 50k.....Main goal over the next 4 weeks is to drop some weight. I've a fat man inside just bursting to get out, he's winning at the moment. I'm watching what I eat and am back weighing myself.0 -
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Tuesday: 12 miles with 7 miles @ 6 minute pace. This hurt a lot, quads are still in a jock, bloody hill run, it was also quite humid out there. Sweat streaming out of me, had to whip off my top and flex the guns, two lucky ladies got to see the gun show so I'm sure they're delighted (or were put off their lunch
) Thankfully I had company for this or the faster section would have been cut short to 5 miles. A little dehydrated now. These tropical temperatures are hard to get use to 
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Tuesday: 12 miles with 7 miles @ 6 minute pace. This hurt a lot, quads are still in a jock, bloody hill run, it was also quite humid out there. Sweat streaming out of me, had to whip off my top and flex the guns, two lucky ladies got to see the gun show so I'm sure they're delighted (or were put off their lunch)
Now I know why you revised your plan to include Dublin. Can't do that when training for a Spring marathon 0 -
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Friday: 10 glorious morning miles @ 6.50 pace. Super run in the sun. Broke out a a brand new pair of runners I bought a few months ago in a sale, my new training diary arrived yesterday, back into a good stretching routine the last week, diet back on track and dropped over a kilo in weight last week. All systems go 0
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RunningKing wrote: »Lucky you ran earlier !!
What brand of runners you breaking in??
I know, what a turn around. It was cool this morning but sunny so helped work on my base tan
Asics kayano. I've worn this brand/model for the last 11 years. They are really chunky and heavy but I've had issues with injury when trying to find an alternative. So now I go with the approach that if its not broke don't fix it! I use to run my marathons in them too but luckily I built up training miles in racers so don't race in them anymore.
Talking about breaking runners in, it's funny but I don't seem to need to do that anymore. I find that the runners are ready to go from day one. Having said that I got a cramp in my calf at 8 miles today and I put it down to the new runners 0 -
I know, what a turn around. It was cool this morning but sunny so helped work on my base tan
Asics kayano. I've worn this brand/model for the last 11 years. They are really chunky and heavy but I've had issues with injury when trying to find an alternative. So now I go with the approach that if its not broke don't fix it! I use to run my marathons in them too but luckily I built up training miles in racers so don't race in them anymore.
Talking about breaking runners in, it's funny but I don't seem to need to do that anymore. I find that the runners are ready to go from day one. Having said that I got a cramp in my calf at 8 miles today and I put it down to the new runners
I use Kayanos also but your idea of racers for marathons intrigues me. Can you give some background to make of racer and how you managed the switch across to them? Also, do you take longer to recover as a result? How much time do you reckon they save you?0 -
I use Kayanos also but your idea of racers for marathons intrigues me. Can you give some background to make of racer and how you managed the switch across to them? Also, do you take longer to recover as a result? How much time do you reckon they save you?
Oh you should definitely look into changing over. I think it's worth about 3-4 minutes for me. I only started looking into changing when hardworker pointed me towards some studies (can't remember them off the top of my head).
It took me a while to get use to the racers. I started off by running a weekly tempo in them, started at 6 and moved up to 10 miles and as the weeks went by introduced a second shorter recovery run in them. Did a couple of 20 mile runs in them also just to be sure the legs wouldn't cramp. I'd rather run 5 minutes slower in Kayanos than cramp and DNF. You've hit the nail on the head though, recovery time is longer. Especially for a big boy like me who is use to lots of cushioning
I have a pair of Brooks ST5s. Thirstywork2 recommended them to me and I must say they are brilliant, still have a good bit of support. I know feck all about runners, I'm more interested in physiological performance than the aesthetics so you'd be better off asking one of the catwalk queens like meno about colours, weights, shapes etc
ps I should say krusty_clown only recently started wearing racers in marathons as well so he might have some advice as well.0 -
I have a pair of Brooks ST5s. Thirstywork2 recommended them to me and I must say they are brilliant, still have a good bit of support. I know feck all about runners, I'm more interested in physiological performance than the aesthetics so you'd be better off asking one of the catwalk queens like meno about colours, weights, shapes etc
I think Belcarra is used to wearing Kayanos like yourself so would need the support, I would only ever wear neutral racers/trainers so I couldn't offer him any advice
I wore a pair of ST5s a few times and tbh they felt like bricks to me. I am not used to their support features and they actually contributed to my injury woes at the time.....they would probably be perfect for Belcarra though.0 -
I think Belcarra is used to wearing Kayanos like yourself so would need the support, I would only ever wear neutral racers/trainers so I couldn't offer him any advice
I wore a pair of ST5s a few times and tbh they felt like bricks to me. I am not used to their support features and they actually contributed to my injury woes at the time.....they would probably be perfect for Belcarra though.
Belcarra, I think he just called you fat
Yes they are quite heavy compared to other racers. My plan is to drop to a pair with less cushioning sometime but probably not this year. As I said, if it's not broke .......0 -
Belcarra, I think he just called you fat
Yes they are quite heavy compared to other racers. My plan is to drop to a pair with less cushioning sometime but probably not this year. As I said, if it's not broke .......
Belcarra is a lot thinner than me, but he obviously pronates and needs a bit of support structure to avoid injury. This normally makes the shoe heavier (as well as the cushioning). I love a bit of soft cushioning myself as long as it is light and neutral. You'll never get me in a pair of 5fingers or anything.
Absolutely agree with the 'ain't broke' thing, just that a shoe that works well for me, RQ, CL or Digger is unlikely to work well for you or Belcarra....0 -
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Oh you should definitely look into changing over. I think it's worth about 3-4 minutes for me. I only started looking into changing when hardworker pointed me towards some studies (can't remember them off the top of my head).
It took me a while to get use to the racers. I started off by running a weekly tempo in them, started at 6 and moved up to 10 miles and as the weeks went by introduced a second shorter recovery run in them. Did a couple of 20 mile runs in them also just to be sure the legs wouldn't cramp. I'd rather run 5 minutes slower in Kayanos than cramp and DNF. You've hit the nail on the head though, recovery time is longer. Especially for a big boy like me who is use to lots of cushioning
I have a pair of Brooks ST5s. Thirstywork2 recommended them to me and I must say they are brilliant, still have a good bit of support. I know feck all about runners, I'm more interested in physiological performance than the aesthetics so you'd be better off asking one of the catwalk queens like meno about colours, weights, shapes etc
ps I should say krusty_clown only recently started wearing racers in marathons as well so he might have some advice as well.
Thanks for the great advice there tRR, I'm gonna look into this a bit more now as what's good for tRR, is good for belcarra! If it works then I'd be willing to settle for 2:45 myself!:pac: Seriosuly though 4-5 mins for you I guess would mean at least another minute extra for 3:15?
Yep, I'd be thinking the same also Meno!I think Belcarra is used to wearing Kayanos like yourself so would need the support, I would only ever wear neutral racers/trainers so I couldn't offer him any advice
I wore a pair of ST5s a few times and tbh they felt like bricks to me. I am not used to their support features and they actually contributed to my injury woes at the time.....they would probably be perfect for Belcarra though.
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Thanks for the great advice there tRR, I'm gonna look into this a bit more now as what's good for tRR, is good for belcarra!
That's the attitude, more people need to take heed of my great adviceSeriosuly though 4-5 mins for you I guess would mean at least another minute extra for 3:15?
Yeah I guess so although they are all estimates on my part. It's hard to judge as I had different fitness levels, running different marathons in different shoes on different courses etc so lots of variables. However I regularly did a 10 miler in the racers during training and would be hitting ~59-60 minutes, forgot them one or two days and definitely seen a difference in time over the 10 miles of about a minute or so.0 -
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What size shoes are you John? I think my ST5's were 8.5, I gave them to digger but I don't think he uses them much either. I am sure he would give them to you if you want to try them out?
Between them they've cut away half the shoe and soaked the tongue in blood, but sure don't mind that 0 -
What size shoes are you John? I think my ST5's were 8.5, I swapped them with digger for a pair of Lunaracers but I don't think he uses them much either. I am sure he would give them to you if you want to try them out?
FYP.....;)
Yep, John.... They're a half size too big for me, Meno buys shoes anywhere between 6's and 9's.... Meno, are you looking at some of them upside down!!
Btw, good to see the log getting some use TRR 0 -
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Btw, good to see the log getting some use TRR
Funny you mention this, I was looking at total views per log the other day and I'm way down the list. Like WTF, this log should be the first place all you losers go to. I'm actually thinking of discontinuing it as it's not getting the love it deserves! Your bleedin' bird has twice the views of my running oracle. Jesus, I just checked again and you have 10,000 more views than me!
Fcuk sake0 -
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Funny you mention this, I was looking at total views per log the other day and I'm way down the list. Like WTF, this log should be the first place all you losers go to. I'm actually thinking of discontinuing it as it's not getting the love it deserves! Your bleedin' bird has twice the views of my running oracle. Jesus, I just checked again and you have 10,000 more views than me!
Fcuk sake
Well, get working on your log rather than hanging around my gaff all night drinking tea and eating my biscuits 0 -
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Funny you mention this, I was looking at total views per log the other day and I'm way down the list. Like WTF, this log should be the first place all you losers go to. I'm actually thinking of discontinuing it as it's not getting the love it deserves! Your bleedin' bird has twice the views of my running oracle. Jesus, I just checked again and you have 10,000 more views than me!
Fcuk sake
Exclusivity TRR. Coronation st is popular. The x factor is popular 0
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