What country has the most sexually liberated women

prinz

thebigbiffo wrote: »

....my viewpoint is that knowing and being comfortble with your own body, knowing what you want from your sex life, being able to experiment with your sexuality and in the bedroom to enjoy sex more (i could keep going) is sexual liberation.

Just because a girl isn't putting out or easy to score has no bearing on whether she's comfortable with her body, knows what she wants from her sex life, is happy with how she expresses her sexuality etc.

ScumLord

Lux23 wrote: »

How does one define sexually liberated?

Look up whore or slut in the dictionary.

bronte

Lux23 wrote: »

Its funny this thread is supposed to be about sexually liberated women yet its full of men talking s***e.

You'd swear women never willingly wanted to have sex ever before let alone actually might enjoy doing so. :pac:

"Easiest to score" my arse!

prinz

Lux23 wrote: »

How does one define sexually liberated?

Lux23 wrote: »

Its funny this thread is supposed to be about sexually liberated women yet its full of men talking s***e.

:rolleyes: Yeah silly men actually discussing something which you were trying to figure out yourself.

philologos

thebigbiffo: What would you regard as repressed? - I think we've gone too far in the opposite direction.

thebigbiffo wrote:

the thing is - some people believe that you can't enjoy sex without 'compassion, love or anything else'...the thing is, yes you can and as long as your responsible, it's nobody's business and it doesn't de-value sex as long as the person involved does not feel it's devaluing it for them

Nothing was said about enjoyment. I'm sure people can enjoy it temporarily.

I think it really does devalue sexuality to divorce it from its intended context within a loving and a stable relationship (What is considered stable is up for discussion, I'd have my own views on that).

thebigbiffo

prinz wrote: »

Just because a girl isn't putting out or easy to score has no bearing on whether she's comfortable with her body, knows what she wants from her sex life, is happy with how she expresses her sexuality etc.

eh, i didn't say it did. in fact, that was my point

prinz

thebigbiffo wrote: »

eh, i didn't say it did. in fact, that was my point

Which leads us to going round in circles because no one can say what sexual liberation actually is. For some it's how easy she is to get in the sack, for some it's what she does in the sack, for some it's something completely different.

Black Swan

California! (As soon as it separates from the other 49 states, and the Governator becomes Presidinator)

Stinicker

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

California! (As soon as it separates from the other 49 states, and the Governator becomes Presidinator)

Ditto, incredibly easy women and up for anything, the hordes of them that stream into Las Vegas on Friday and Saturday nights are easy and well liberal in the bedroom!

thebigbiffo

prinz wrote: »

Which leads us to going round in circles because no one can say what sexual liberation actually is. For some it's how easy she is to get in the sack, for some it's what she does in the sack, for some it's something completely different.

just to put us on the same page - i've said in my previous posts that in my opinion sexual liberation is about being able to enjoy/explore your sexuality without externally imposed taboos (church telling you all sex is bad m'kay etc)

in response to jakkass. i believe repressed is the inability to explore your sexuality because of externally imposed taboos (church telling you all sex is bad m'kay etc)

that's the simplified version and i'm just using the church as an example of a force which did, in reality, try to/did repress sexuality. there's many other factors on a social and personal level - but i'm just being general here

philologos

thebigbiffo wrote: »

just to put us on the same page - i've said in my previous posts that in my opinion sexual liberation is about being able to enjoy/explore your sexuality without externally imposed taboos (church telling you all sex is bad m'kay etc)

I don't even think that the Roman Catholic Church says that all sex is bad.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

in response to jakkass. i believe repressed is the inability to explore your sexuality because of externally imposed taboos (church telling you all sex is bad m'kay etc)

Again, I'm not entirely sure that that is even being said.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

that's the simplified version and i'm just using the church as an example of a force which did, in reality, try to/did repress sexuality. there's many other factors on a social and personal level - but i'm just being general here

I'm sure in some cases it did, but I don't think just because you aren't loose that you "aren't exploring your sexuality".

thebigbiffo

Jakkass wrote: »

thebigbiffo: What would you regard as repressed? - I think we've gone too far in the opposite direction.



Nothing was said about enjoyment. I'm sure people can enjoy it temporarily.

I think it really does devalue sexuality to divorce it from its intended context within a loving and a stable relationship (What is considered stable is up for discussion, I'd have my own views on that).

sorry, but just to pick up on your last point. who says sex was 'intended [to be in] a loving and stable relationship'...this is news to me. sex was about reproduction full stop. that's the intended function - but it's also a very enjoyable phsyical act and can be enjoyed without the need for the societal norm of a 'loving and stable relationship'.

and look, if start down the road of slaggin darwin your a candidate for a virtual slap

Lux23

Prinz - I know what it means to me and that's all that matters. My question how do you define sexual liberation as it means different things to different people but I guess I should have explained my question more fully.

prinz

thebigbiffo wrote: »

just to put us on the same page - i've said in my previous posts that in my opinion sexual liberation is about being able to enjoy/explore your sexuality without externally imposed taboos

You mean like our current media/culture/society's ever present message that if you're not sexually active you must be weird? There are far more threads on the PI forum by people asking is being a virgin weird, than there are people ashamed of being sexually active.

philologos

thebigbiffo wrote: »

sorry, but just to pick up on your last point. who says sex was 'intended [to be in] a loving and stable relationship'...this is news to me. sex was about reproduction full stop. that's the intended function - but it's also a very enjoyable phsyical act and can be enjoyed without the need for the societal norm of a 'loving and stable relationship'.

I think the divorce between the two is ultimately destructive to society, and I've explained in what ways.

For me, the two of necessity go together, one follows the other. Anything else seriously cheapens the idea.

The thought process that they do not go together at all, is something completely alien.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

and look, if start down the road of slaggin darwin your a candidate for a virtual slap

I haven't mentioned Darwin or evolution. I just think that my understanding is that humans are capable of more than animals are.

prinz

Lux23 wrote: »

Prinz - I know what it means to me and that's all that matters. My question how do you define sexual liberation as it means different things to different people but I guess I should have explained my question more fully.

You're right. So why is discussing what it means "talking s***e?" though?

thebigbiffo

Jakkass wrote: »

I don't even think that the Roman Catholic Church says that all sex is bad.



Again, I'm not entirely sure that that is even being said.



I'm sure in some cases it did, but I don't think just because you aren't loose that you "aren't exploring your sexuality".

1: they may as well have...but they certainly never condoned sex outside marriage, gay sex (ahem, even though a large portion were riding everything, inc kids in some cases) - i think it's a fair statement to say they contributed to sexual repression (whatever your definition of that is)

2: i'm saying it - it's just my opinion, i wasn't trying to speak for the whole thread

3: i'll say it again - re read my posts. i've been trying to distance my opinion from anyone who reckons 'sexual liberation' is about f'uckin everything that walks - i've never once said thats what liberation is about

thebigbiffo

prinz wrote: »

You mean like our current media/culture/society's ever present message that if you're not sexually active you must be weird? There are far more threads on the PI forum by people asking is being a virgin weird, than there are people ashamed of being sexually active.

i was born with a knob - chicks with a vagina (i wont use slang here )

so, if you're a virgin - no your not weird, your born that way. however, if you stay a virgin for a long time (ie, well into your 20's) imo you are sexually repressed. you should be exploring your sexuality - in your own time under your own rules and without any external pressue on either side.

Kimia

thebigbiffo wrote: »

nah, was only trying to say irish women have a hang-up about sex.

Have you had experience with every Irish women yea? Bit of a leap to make there. :rolleyes:

prinz

thebigbiffo wrote: »

if you stay a virgin for a long time (ie, well into your 20's) imo you are sexually repressed......... you should be exploring your sexuality - in your own time under your own rules and without any external pressue on either side.

Eh, contradiction much? In your own time, under your own rules, just as long as it's not into your 20's because then obviously you are just sexually repressed...

HavingCrack

USA hands down a whiff of an Irish accent and the women are all over you

Seriously though its the norm just to get chatting to a woman on the street/bookshop/park etc in America and end up asking her for her number or on a date. It's no big deal to the women that men are sexually attracted to them and they're usually happy to meet up with you again. In Ireland it seems the only way women want to meet men is when they're hammered in a pub/nightclub..at least in my experience (sorry big generalisation there ALL Irish people seem to be fu*ked up as regards sex).

thebigbiffo

Kimia wrote: »

Have you had experience with every Irish women yea? Bit of a leap to make there. :rolleyes:

if i could direct you back over this thread you'll see that it's a generally accepted view - jesus, scroll up and look at the pole! maybe you're 'sexually liberated' - and for gods sake dont get me started on definitions of that terms.

but yeah, i believe so...this is based on being alive at the present moment myself and having friends who are also alive and hooking up with sexual partners of many nationalities.

IRISH WOMEN DONT DO GOOD SEX

there, i said it

mcmickey

It would have to be Sweden amd Swedish women are GORGEOUS.

Kiera

thebigbiffo wrote: »

IRISH WOMEN DONT DO GOOD SEX

Older Irish women do

Kimia

thebigbiffo wrote: »

if i could direct you back over this thread you'll see that it's a generally accepted view - jesus, scroll up and look at the pole! maybe you're 'sexually liberated' - and for gods sake dont get me started on definitions of that terms.

but yeah, i believe so...this is based on being alive at the present moment myself and having friends who are also alive and hooking up with sexual partners of many nationalities.

IRISH WOMEN DONT DO GOOD SEX

there, i said it

I thought the poll is showing which country has the easiest women to score? So perhaps you just find it difficult to score Irish women?

thebigbiffo

prinz wrote: »

Eh, contradiction much? In your own time, under your own rules, just as long as it's not into your 20's because then obviously you are just sexually repressed...

bah...you see my point i suspect but your just trolling.

unless you've been locked up until your late 20's, if you haven't has a sexual partner i believe there is something wrong and - by extension - you're sexually repressed...

queue argument where i'm painted as the guy who's telling people to sleep with someone, ANYONE GODDAMMIT, lest you become sexually repressed and a weirdo. yawn.

i'm off home now to express my sexuality with my wife (hopefully - i find she can be fierce repressed sometimes:D)

thebigbiffo

Kimia wrote: »

I thought the poll is showing which country has the easiest women to score? So perhaps you just find it difficult to score Irish women?

jesus h christ, would ya mind readin the f'uckin name of the thread and reading through it before you make assumptions as to what in hell i'm talking about. there's been an argument going on here forever regarding the meaning of liberated and...

oh ya know something, you're not worth the effort.

btw: my success or lack thereof with irish women is completely off subject. you sound like i insulted you? maybe you could just use a good ride?

recylingbin

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

<grabs popcorn>

*opens ryanair website*

bronte

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i'm off home now to express my sexuality with my wife (hopefully - i find she can be fierce repressed sometimes:D)

Hope she's not Irish! :pac:

K-9

bronte wrote: »

Hope she's not Irish! :pac:

I blame the EU myself.