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Berlin or bust...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    littlebug wrote: »
    Emer you're my new guru:). I've been reading back through your taper weeks to see what you did, what pmp miles etc :D

    GURU? Good god don't put that kind of pressure on me! :o

    Hope you enjoy reviewing my log. Thinking back, I know I felt a bit cr*ppy for the last week or so, but hey, it all worked out ok in the end. :D

    Good luck with the taper.

    I'll be in cheering on you hearty souls in the DCM. You'll have to let me know what you're wearing or put your name on your shirt so I'll know to give you a shout as you pass. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Emer911 wrote: »
    GURU? Good god don't put that kind of pressure on me! :o

    Hope you enjoy reviewing my log. Thinking back, I know I felt a bit cr*ppy for the last week or so, but hey, it all worked out ok in the end. :D

    Good luck with the taper.

    I'll be in cheering on you hearty souls in the DCM. You'll have to let me know what you're wearing or put your name on your shirt so I'll know to give you a shout as you pass. :D

    Sometimes it's easier to learn from someone who's just a page ahead in the book. What you did over the last few weeks obviously worked well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Well done in Berlin, impressive neg split run!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Monday - nothing...

    Tuesday - back to the plan. 3 miles easy running called for, but I had a 'one of those days' and just wanted to let loose. Ran way too fast for the 1st mile but gradually slowed the pace to 'easy' towards the end.

    First run in the dark (since last spring), and first run in my new shoes. The shoes were great - really spongy - but the dark wasn't so good. I hadn't intended going out so late so didn't have a route planned. Improvised, but wasn't really loving the route. Still, I did it and didn't trip or run into anyone or anything :rolleyes:

    Summary
    3.6 miles in 00:33:56
    Avg Pace: 09:26 min/mi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    Well done on the "recovery/easy" run :)

    Did you manage to find a 10km for the end of Oct? I can't make the Donadea 10km I planned to looking for an alternate. I can't find any until end of November.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    shazkea wrote: »
    Did you manage to find a 10km for the end of Oct? I can't make the Donadea 10km I planned to looking for an alternate. I can't find any until end of November.

    No joy yet Shazkea. Looking like the end of November for me too... Or possibly a half marathon in December instead. No rush, I'm still deciding... ;)
    Let me know if you find anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Wednesday
    Back to yoga after being more or less un-stretched for about a month - hard work, painful, but worth it. :rolleyes:

    Thursday
    3x1 mile repeats were planned, but my knee is still feeling a bit achy so decided to just run the 5 miles steady (on the grass) and leave the speed work until Saturday, or next week. No point in rushing back into the training if the body isn't ready.

    So I headed to the park for some grassy running. Did most of the run on the grass, but it was pitch black for the last mile so I had to move out to the road for that. The knee was fine when I was running, and even feels a bit better after it!? Cool.:cool:

    Summary
    5.25 miles in 00:52:39
    Avg Pace: 10:02 min/mi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Friday - Rest day.

    Saturday
    30 min tempo run was in the plan, but I just went out to run about 3 miles. Still not pushing the speedwork until the knee (et all) is all better. Felt grand today though, so I'll probably go for it next week.

    I got a toot and a wave from 2 guys in a big white van when I was out running today. Now that was weird!

    While in the park, I stopped to pick up a youngster off the tarmac. He came a cropper while he and his friends were practising 'side-skids' on their bikes. They were only about 9 or so:rolleyes: He was Ok though, just a bit mucky.
    Another one had ripped the entire ass out of his trousers on a previous stunt (and was very proud of it! :D). Kids eh? :p
    Bet their mammy's will be glad with the state of them when they get home!

    Nice run though. Lovely sunny morning.

    Summary
    3 miles in 00:27:40
    Avg Pace: 09:13 min/mi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Sunday LSR
    Ahh, it's good to be back! 8 miles today and it all felt great. No niggles, no tired legs, just good honest running fun. :D

    I didn't get out until later than usual, so at about 14:30 I hit the road, probably a bit overdressed as it looked a bit cool out there. Wasn't that cool at all, but the sea was WILD and it was just gorgeous running down the promenade.
    The problem with heading out so late, though, and running in a scenic spot, is the number of casual walkers out and about. If I shouted "Excuse Me" once, I must've shouted it a hundred times!? :rolleyes:

    It was a lovely day for it, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's good to be doing some decent miles again (never thought I say that!)

    Summary
    8 miles in 01:18:36
    Avg Pace: 09:49 min/mi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    This weeks plan

    Monday |Cross 30-40 min
    Tuesday |4 m run
    Wednesday |3 x mile (10-K pace)
    Thursday| 4 m run
    Friday |Rest
    Saturday |Tempo 35 min
    Sunday |60-90 min

    Not starting out well though. Monday was a write-off. On antibiotics and feeling wretched all day, so gave my usual swim a miss. Hopefully should be ok tomorrow... fingers crossed :rolleyes:


    Still looking for nice 10k around mid November, if anyone has any suggestions?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Tuesday 4 miles easy / steady.
    Dark, dark, dark! I'm never all that comfortable running in the dark - afraid I'm going to trip up - so I know my style and pace are definitely off. I just don't feel relaxed running when I can't see where I'm going.

    This temerity comes from tripping in a pothole a few years ago in the pitch black and tearing up my ankle ligaments. It took weeks to get it back to running order, and still swelled up after each run for about another 6 weeks. All's well now, but it was a real pain (in more ways than one) for a bit!

    So I stuck to the mostly lit roads around the village for my 4 miles. Not the most scenic or enjoyable running route, but it serves the purpose. :rolleyes:

    Summary
    4 miles in 00:38:45
    Avg Pace: 09:40 min/mi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    I've increased my training paces across the board in line with my next big goal. My recent marathon time indicates a 2:05 HM, so I'm pushing the boat out - Sub 2 hour half marathon.
    I haven't signed up for one yet, but I'm going to do the training anyway. The 4 week post marathon plan I'm on at the moment finishes with a suggested 5K or 10K race, and I'll look to signing up for a HM after that.

    So for a 1:58 HM the training pace times suggested by McMillan are:

    Endurance Workouts| Pace/Mile |Pace/K
    Recovery Jogs| 11:00 to 11:30 |6:50 to 7:09
    Long Runs| 10:00 to 11:00| 6:13 to 6:50
    Easy Runs| 10:00 to 10:30| 6:13 to 6:32

    Stamina Workouts| Pace/Mile |Pace/K
    Steady-State Runs| 9:01 to 9:17 |5:36 to 5:46
    Tempo Runs | 8:38 to 9:01 |5:22 to 5:36
    Tempo Intervals | 8:31 to 8:49 |5:18 to 5:29

    Ambitious (for me) but if you don't try... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Emer I think you've been getting naturally faster lately anyway. I don't think you'll have any problem with those times at all :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    +1, that'll be no bother to you


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Wednesday was a gonner. Yoga was cancelled at very short notice so I was not a happy bunny :mad:

    Thursday: 3 x 1 mile repeats at 10K pace. As the 10K pace for this training plan is 8:31 /mi I just looked at that and laughed to myself "...well that's not going to happen!". I decided to just head out and do the mile repeats as best I could, but I wasn't going to beat myself up to hit the 10K pace!
    It was about 8:00pm when I got going, so the question as to where to run was a difficult one. I eventually settled on a well-ish lit, flat-ish route, but it wasn't exactly ideal. But beggers can't be choosers... :rolleyes:

    Did my warm up mile and then upped the pace for the next mile. It was slightly downhill for most of that mile, then walk break for 4 minutes or so and the second mile was mostly uphill (see - not ideal!). Another few minutes rest and the third mile was up and down, not as well lit, but ok generally. Another mile warm down and home.

    Looking at my pace afterwards I was DELIGHTED! The splits for the 3X 1 miles were:
    08:25 08:38 08:20

    Woo Hoo! I seriously didn't think I'd get near to that, so I'm thrilled!?! :D

    Summary
    5.56 miles in 00:56:28
    Average Pace 10:09 min/mi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Friday - Rest day. Ate too much! :o Ho hum...

    Saturday
    35 min Tempo run. The tempo pace (a la McMillan) is supposed to be 8:38 to 9:01 (for a 1:58 HM). Before Thursdays run, I'd be laughing out the side of my sleeve at those paces, but now I know I can hit that pace for 3 miles (with breaks) so I felt confident I could do it for this run.

    So I ran a warm-up and then picked up the pace, trying to keep it even and incremental. Don't know if I got it (Tempo) right, but it felt ok. Definitely hard work, and the breathing was laboured towards the end. (I must get myself a HRM... it'd have been interesting reading I think!)
    The last 10 minutes or so was cool down, and I just kept going to take the mileage to 4 miles.

    Pace wise, I ended up running the middle mile and a half in 12:52, or at an ave pace of 08:39 for the mile and 08:26 for the half mile. Very happy with that! :D

    Lovely morning for a run too. It's my favourite time of year - it was bright and sunny, with that cold 'fresh' feeling. I just love that. :)

    Summary
    4.01 miles in 00:36:39
    Avg Pace: 09:08 min/mi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    Hey Emer, just catching up on your log and the Berlin report. Well done on an amazing achievement! I'm delighted for you. :D Great to see you're straight back in and at it already, some inspiration! Congrats again!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,511 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Good to see you're not slacking off, while the coach is out of town On the road to Yosemite at the moment. Just 150 miles to go. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Good to see you're not slacking off, while the coach is out of town

    LOL. :D

    Me - Slacking off? Never!! :p

    Hope Yosemite was everything you were hoping for...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Sunday
    Being a single parent for the week :rolleyes: meant I was pushed for time - and it was a late one too! So I ended up going out for my run after I put the chicken in the oven and had to be back to take it out... Life eh? :p
    But I'll take what I can get!! Got 6.5 miles in so happy enough with that.

    Summary
    6.55 miles in 01:06:34
    Avg Pace: 10:09 min/mi


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    This weeks plan

    Monday |Cross 30-40 min Rest
    Tuesday |5 m run
    Wednesday |3 x mile (5 K pace = 8:13/mi)
    Thursday| 5 m run
    Friday |Rest
    Saturday |Tempo 40 min
    Sunday |90 min

    Yoga on Wednesday maybe, so if I can make that I'll move the repeats to Thursday and drop the 5 mile.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Have yee booked your trip to Barcelona yet? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Have yee booked your trip to Barcelona yet? :pac:

    LOL - no pressure, right? :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Emer911 wrote: »
    LOL - no pressure, right? :D

    Course not. It's perfect time though, I mean, pretty much bang on 6 months after Berlin it makes it a perfect time for you to run your second marathon. You should suggest it to the clown, bet he'd think it's a great idea. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    Have yee booked your trip to Barcelona yet? :pac:

    Great suggestion RQ - I'm saying no more on the matter though Emer as I wouldn't want to pressure you....

    Subliminal message...Go on book it, you know you want to run in Barcelona


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Gheesh... you guys?!:rolleyes:

    Well, we're actually thinking of doing something a bit different in the first half of next year. Have a look here :cool:

    (with me doing the half and the clown going ocean to ocean)

    That's the plan at the moment. If that doesn't happen then who knows?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Tuesday
    Mom's taxi had a fare to football, football lasts about an hour and as I had 5 miles to do - perfect timing! So dropped him off and headed down Newtownpark ave towards Blackrock, up Mount Merrion Ave and finished the loop via the N11.

    Interesting run...
    Bit's along the N11 were cycle lane only, so that was a bit scary as millions of cyclist sped past me up the hill. (I might be exaggerating there!)
    And lots of traffic (well it was around rush hour)
    And stop-starting at all the lights (love that!)

    Still, felt comfortable throughout, even with the hills, so I'll take it! :D

    Summary
    5.01 miles in 00:48:32
    Avg Pace: 09:41 min/mi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    Emer911 wrote: »
    Gheesh... you guys?!:rolleyes:

    Well, we're actually thinking of doing something a bit different in the first half of next year. Have a look here :cool:

    (with me doing the half and the clown going ocean to ocean)

    That's the plan at the moment. If that doesn't happen then who knows?

    Emer don't put links like that up - it only plants seeds in my head. The course profile for the half looks "interesting" :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    shazkea wrote: »
    Emer don't put links like that up - it only plants seeds in my head. The course profile for the half looks "interesting" :eek:

    Interesting is right. I'll have to get some serious hill training in before I attempt that one! :p

    ...like I said, it's a vague idea at the moment, rather than a plan, but I'll keep you posted :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Emer911


    Wednesday
    Back at yoga, hopefully on a more consistent basis now. I've signed up (and paid for) the next 6 weeks, so there's the push! The course will be concentrating on core strength, so it should complement my running nicely.
    Great to be back at it, and I'm feeling the 'benefits' today! :P

    Thursday
    I didn't think I'd get to go out today - the kids activities were conspiring against me, but Granny took care of one and a lift swap ("I'll drop them and you collect") took care of the other. Phew! So I actually got out at about 7:40 or so.
    It was cold and dark, but not as cold as Tuesday and it felt good to be out there. The plan was to do 3 x 1 mile repeats at 5K pace. Now the 5K pace for this plan is actually 08:13 /mi :eek: so I wasn't really looking forward to that!?
    Did my warm-up mile and picked up the pace. Found it REALLY tough, and the middle third of the mile was uphill, which was just peachy. Didn't hit 8:13, came in at 8:24 :(.
    The second fast mile was a similar profile, with the middle third uphill, but the last third was a distinct downhill, so I picked up some speed on that one. Again didn't get 8:13, but got close at 8:16.
    Third mile was flat, or even slightly downhill. I actually did this one in 8:04!? :eek:
    Now if only all miles were flat :D

    Repeats were
    08:24 / 08:16 / 08:04

    Much needed walk breaks for about 4 minutes between repeats, and another mile(ish) cooldown.

    VERY TOUGH HARD session, but I'm really glad I did it and I did surprise myself. Onwards and upwards.

    Summary
    5.5 miles in 00:54:28
    Avg Pace: 09:54 min/mi


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