Africa Day, Iveagh Gardens Dublin 16th May

bijapos · 17-05-2010 6:19pm

walshb wrote: »

Pages and pages of posts, but this one nails it.

Fat chance though. You can bet it's the Irish who are plugging
this day and forcing this day, the Africans couldn't care less.

Right. So who pays for the Paddys Day parades in New York, Chicago, San Francisco and all the other cities worldwide. The Irish? And what kind of chaos does a 4 hour parade cause in New York every year, most of the time on a weekday at that.

FFS lighten up, its only a free day out in the sun for the family.

Cavehill Red · 17-05-2010 6:19pm

Nodin wrote: »

...and if they were, sure you'd be complaining anyway. But at least you're consistent.

Since you're the expert on the supporters of Africa Day perhaps you could enlighten us as to what proportion of funding for this came from Africans?

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:22pm

bijapos wrote: »

Right. So who pays for the Paddys Day parades in New York, Chicago, San Francisco and all the other cities worldwide. The Irish? And what kind of chaos does a 4 hour parade cause in New York every year, most of the time on a weekday at that.

FFS lighten up, its only a free day out in the sun for the family.

What has Patrick's day in the U.S. got to do with anything?

Also, what is free about Africa day? It's a promotional exercise to generate
yet more cash for the continent and for the NGOs who are over there being the big
white chiefs.

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:23pm

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

What a great day it was yesterday. Felt like the start of the summer. I cant understand why people would think its anything but a great idea.

What is great about the idea?

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:24pm

Nodin wrote: »

Yeah, thats your usual.

So, you were having a laugh, thought so.

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:28pm

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Since you're the expert on the supporters of Africa Day perhaps you could enlighten us as to what proportion of funding for this came from Africans?

No idea. Not that you or your fellow travellers give a rats ass how much did come from Africans, because your problem isn't with the funding. That much was clear from your early post.

And of course, you're unable to posit a guess as to why the RBS or Diageo is listed as a "supporter".

You never got back to me on a few things - Why is the "state" trying to destroy Irish culture, for instance. Thats one I'm dying to know

If you believe that removing overtly catholic iconography from a parade is one of the methods they're using to do this, are you saying that one can only be Irish if one follows a certain religion?

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:28pm

walshb wrote: »

What is great about the idea?

What's so bad about it?

theboxer · 17-05-2010 6:29pm

walshb wrote: »

What has Patrick's day in the U.S. got to do with anything?

The strain of argument here appears to be if people of Irish origin have a festival in their respective nations, non Irish nationals must have their own festivals in Ireland at the Irish taxpayers expense There are 40-50,000 illegals in America, ergo, we should open up our borders to all and sundry. Irish people commit crimes in other countries this must be balanced by non nationals coming to ireland and committing crimes here.

And so on.....

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:29pm

Hmm, RBS and Diageo; getting involved with publicity and advertising? Why would they be doing this? That's a tricky one....

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:30pm

Nodin wrote: »

What's so bad about it?

Hey, I never said there was anything bad. The poster (Andy-Pandy) said it was a great idea, I'd like him/her to tell me why.....

bijapos · 17-05-2010 6:31pm

walshb wrote: »

What has Patrick's day in the U.S. got to do with anything?

You are complaining that Africans supposedly did not pay for the festival yesterday. My point is we don't pay for Paddys Day parades abroad so there isn't much point complaining about this.

Also, what is free about Africa day? It's a promotional exercise to generate
yet more cash for the continent and for the NGOs who are over there being the big
white chiefs.

So if I decide not to give anything to the NGO's seems it would be a free day out.

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:31pm

theboxer wrote: »

The strain of argument here appears to be if people of Irish origin have a festival in their respective nations, non Irish nationals must have their own festivals in Ireland at the Irish taxpayers expense There are 40-50,000 illegals in America, ergo, we should open up our borders to all and sundry. Irish people commit crimes in other countries this must be balanced by non nationals coming to ireland and committing crimes here.

And so on.....

A classic example of the excuse that passes for logic in some peoples minds....I've bolded the funniest part.

Krusader · 17-05-2010 6:31pm

Where's my Europe day

Cavehill Red · 17-05-2010 6:32pm

Nodin wrote: »

No idea. Not that you or your fellow travellers give a rats ass how much did come from Africans, because your problem isn't with the funding. That much was clear from your early post.

I'm very keen to know howw much did come from Africans, having previously established that I and every other taxpayer are picking up the bulk of the tab for this.
I suspect very little or nothing was contributed by Africans to this. That's why I'm asking.

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:32pm

walshb wrote: »

Hmm, RBS and Diageo; getting involved with publicity and advertising? Why would they be doing this? That's a tricky one....

Well, apparently cavehill can't figure it out....his mind goes black every time, so to speak.

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:33pm

bijapos wrote: »

You are complaining that Africans supposedly did not pay for the festival yesterday. My point is we don't pay for Paddys Day parades abroad so there isn't much point complaining about this.

So if I decide not to give anything to the NGO's seems it would be a free day out.

No no no, never free. Irish Aid are heavily involved too. That is my tax money.

theboxer · 17-05-2010 6:33pm

bijapos wrote: »

So if I decide not to give anything to the NGO's seems it would be a free day out.

The government decides, not you.

Krusader · 17-05-2010 6:36pm

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I'm very keen to know howw much did come from Africans, having previously established that I and every other taxpayer are picking up the bulk of the tab for this.
I suspect very little or nothing was contributed by Africans to this. That's why I'm asking.

I'll give you a guesstimate and say zilch

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:37pm

Crosáidí wrote: »

Where's my Europe day

Reading the thread or using a search engine might help there.

Krusader · 17-05-2010 6:40pm

Nodin wrote: »

Reading the thread or using a search engine might help there.

I read half the thread and then I got tired of reading your posts, insinuating that everyone who doesn't agree with Africa Day is a racist

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:41pm

When you actually sit back and think about it. Ireland, a ****ing tiny insignificant country with a population of about 4.5 million people and we are falling over ourselves to promote and "help" and "give" to the worlds second largest continent, with a population of close to 1 Billion people. You couldn't make it up.

bijapos · 17-05-2010 6:41pm

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I'm very keen to know howw much did come from Africans, having previously established that I and every other taxpayer are picking up the bulk of the tab for this.
I suspect very little or nothing was contributed by Africans to this. That's why I'm asking.

Ask a Dublin City councillor if you want a full break down, and while your at it ask how much the Germans paid for the Oktoberfest and Christmas Market in Georges Dock last year. Do you want them banned as well? Ban the Festival of World Cultures as well cos no foreigners paid for it, ban the Docklands festival cos you don't sail so why should you pay for it, ban the Strret Performers festival cos your not a street performer, ban the Phoenix Park races cos you don't like motor sport and so on.

FFS, if it costs money to go to something in this city its whinge whinge whinge, if its free its whinge whinge whinge.

Nodin · 17-05-2010 6:42pm

Crosáidí wrote: »

I read half the thread and then I got tired of reading your posts, insinuating that everyone who doesn't agree with Africa Day is a racist

I never said any such thing. Obviously reading comprehension isn't your forte.

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:43pm

Crosáidí wrote: »

I read half the thread and then I got tired of reading your posts, insinuating that everyone who doesn't agree with Africa Day is a racist

Nodin, it is hard to ignore, but every time someone says something against
this you seem to wanna' label them a racist. Poor reflection on you really.

Krusader · 17-05-2010 6:43pm

Ban 'em all, Ban 'em all to hell!

bijapos · 17-05-2010 6:43pm

walshb wrote: »

When you actually sit back and think about it. Ireland, a ****ing tiny insignificant country with a population of about 4.5 million people and we are falling over ourselves to promote and "help" and "give" to the worlds second largest continent, with a population of close to 1 Billion people. You couldn't make it up.

Yeah, same as the EU giving us billions of aid over the years, couldn't make it up either.

walshb · 17-05-2010 6:45pm

bijapos wrote: »

Yeah, same as the EU giving us billions of aid over the years, couldn't make it up either.

No, not really the same. The same would be a country like Iceland or Switzerland falling over themselves to give and give to Africa, but guess what, they aren't.

bijapos · 17-05-2010 6:46pm

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I'm very keen to know howw much did come from Africans, having previously established that I and every other taxpayer are picking up the bulk of the tab for this.
I suspect very little or nothing was contributed by Africans to this. That's why I'm asking.

The ordinary African paid about the same amount as the ordinary Irish paid for a Paddys day parade in any city on the planet. i.e. Zilch. Fair swop?

theboxer · 17-05-2010 6:46pm

walshb wrote: »

When you actually sit back and think about it. Ireland, a ****ing tiny insignificant country with a population of about 4.5 million people and we are falling over ourselves to promote and "help" and "give" to the worlds second largest continent, with a population of close to 1 Billion people. You couldn't make it up.

It passed the one billion mark in November 2009. There were no celebrations. No "Africa Day - Yay, we passed the one billion mark". Just embarrassed silence.

Krusader · 17-05-2010 6:48pm

Nodin wrote: »

Do you disgruntled racist types c&p your whines from some central site?

Nodin wrote: »

Not at all. It's perfectly possible to question Government spending on any number of issues without being racist. You being a racist, however, obviously haven't taken that route.

Here's two posts where you called people racist for no apparent reason

Africa Day, Iveagh Gardens Dublin 16th May

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