The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [** NO SPOILERS PLEASE **]

krudler

Duggy747 wrote: »

Sam Rockwell would be perfectly suited to this Batman universe, I really like that actor and he deserves a wider praise than he gets.

Off-topic but I really think when they go ahead with the MacGuyver movie (it's still been pushed by the creator) and for some godforsaken reason they don't go with Richard Dean Anderson then Rockwell would be be perfect for the role. :pac:

Macguyver? Nathan Fillion ftw

JP Liz V1

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a240709/caine-confirms-batman-3-filming-date.html

Sir Michael Caine has revealed that Christopher Nolan's next Batman movie will begin production next year.
Caine, who plays Bruce Wayne's butler Alfred Pennyworth in the superhero series, told DS: "I think they're going to do it in April, that's about as much as I know."

WolfForager

I can't wait til 2012

tvnutz

The Joker will not be recast. The character will not be in the 3rd movie.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100712/ten-nolan-not-replacing-ledger-as-joker-5f8abb3.html

Christopher Nolan has said Batman 3 won't see a return of the Joker, the maniacal character played by the late Heath Ledger in the last movie.

The director wouldn't disclose what villain or villains might take on the Caped Crusader in the follow-up to 2008's The Dark Knight, which is due out in 2012.

But he revealed the Joker wouldn't be back, saying: "For me, Heath was the definitive Joker. It wouldn't feel appropriate to readdress that character."

Heath's performance earned him an Academy Award a year after he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose in January 2008.

His death stoked fan interest in The Dark Knight, which topped one billion dollars at the box office worldwide.

The next Batman film will be the third in the current Warner Bros incarnation of the franchise, which stars Christian Bale as the vigilante superhero.

syklops

tvnutz wrote: »

The Joker will not be recast. The character will not be in the 3rd movie.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100712/ten-nolan-not-replacing-ledger-as-joker-5f8abb3.html

Its the right decision to be honest. Its a new chapter in Batmans story, and there should be a new villain. I am guessing, based on how the last film ended, Batman himself will be the perceived villain for at least the start of the Movie. Then while the police focus on trying to track him down, a new villain gains power. I would love to see the Ventriloquist as the villain. If done right, it could be very gritty, the main antagonist having a very real, and obvious psychological disorder, while appearing logical and organised. Besides, Dummys have a way of freaking people out.

I suppose we will have to wait and see.

Mr Freeze

Definitely would not be opposed to seeing Black Mask or The Ventriloquist as villains in the 3rd film, I'd prefer if they stuck with gangster type villains anyways.

I wouldn't like to see Catwoman or Penguin. Riddler, maybe, but at the risk of Johnny Depp being cast, I hope the Riddler is left out too.

Not recasting The Joker is the right move.

I know Nolan said that Two Face was dead, but circumstances have changed since TDK script was written and he might end up being re-used, who knows?

I'm sure Nolan will do a great job anyways.

syklops

I doubt they will re-use Two-face. There are loads of Batman villains who could be used. The original penguin was just a mobster who wore suits and liked birds. It was only Tim Burton in Batman Returns who depicted him as being as a grotesque penguin mutant. In the comics and cartoons he was just a regular guy who considered himself a gentleman of crime. If they continue the mob theme, he could easily be used as a Mobster with a catchy nick name.

I have already said I would love to see the Ventriloquist, as it would give it a bit of psychological oomph. They could mention that he was one of the guys who escaped from Arkham in Batman Begins.

I think Nolan said some time ago that there would be no Catwoman and no Batgirl. As much as I like seeing hot girls in cat suits, I think most people would say thank christ at the news of both of them being excluded. Once you introduce them, Batman has a habit of becoming childish very quickly.

Mr Freeze

Aye, if they went for the Ice-burg Lounge owning/Arms dealing type Penguin it might work....much like the comics and Gotham Knights animated series version, that could be good.

Handsome Bob

I'm glad to hear that The Joker will not be recast, it would have been too much of a mess in regards to continuity, the problem of do you allow the actor to give his own portrayal or mimic Ledger's etc etc. I am sad because I do think about what might have been, I am convinced that The Joker would have been used again had Heath not died, however this is for the best.

Wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Tom Hardy cast in this film, most likely as Black Mask. I don't think it's lazy of me to think this because it's a fact that Nolan likes to work with who he is familiar with. Hell, there have even been rumours that Hugh Jackman was offered the role of Two Face before Eckhart got the part.

DrumSteve

Bill Fichtner as the penguin.


that is all.

Dempsey

DrumSteve wrote: »

Bill Fichtner as the penguin.


that is all.

Its hard to look past him alright but I doubt that he'll be the only problem for Batman

Scuid Mhór

tvnutz wrote: »

The Joker will not be recast. The character will not be in the 3rd movie.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100712/ten-nolan-not-replacing-ledger-as-joker-5f8abb3.html

good. no one could play the joker on par with heath.

the dark knight was a great movie but terribly overrated. i think batman 3 will have great expectations weighed upon it that it won't be able to meet. no villain will capture the screen like the joker did.

JP Liz V1

http://ie.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1110240p1.html

An intern at Warner Bros. reporting that Inception stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Tom Hardy are all under consideration for the role of Riddler in Batman 3.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt would be my pick

syklops

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

http://ie.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1110240p1.html



Joseph Gordon-Levitt would be my pick

I cant see Leo DiCapri-sun as the Riddler. I just cant.

Don't get me wrong he is a great actor, but he is too good looking.

EDIT: Come to think of it, maybe the same was said about Heath Ledger, I dont know.

JP Liz V1

syklops wrote: »

I cant see Leo DiCapri-sun as the Riddler. I just cant.

Don't get me wrong he is a great actor, but he is too good looking.

EDIT: Come to think of it, maybe the same was said about Heath Ledger, I dont know.

Maybe Leo could pull off Roman Sionis/Black Mask

bonerm

It'd be cool to see DiCaprio in part 3 but I don't think it's really his thing. I was surprised to even see him in Inception where he gives up a large part of the screen time to other actors. I'd imagine if he played the Riddler that he'd have to take an even lesser role.

Brendog

Deleted User wrote: »

Dear God no. 10 years ago perhaps but in recent times Depp has turned into a light weight comedic actor who plays the same character over and over again.

Johnny Depp now has only two acting styles...

- A Drunk

or

- A Creepy Child Molester

bonerm

Brendog wrote: »

Johnny Depp now has only two acting styles...

- A Drunk

or

- A Creepy Child Molester

He wasn't either of them in Sweeney Todd. He was more like a pissed off David Bowie in that one.

Mr. K

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Maybe Leo could pull off Roman Sionis/Black Mask

Leo would be an excellent choice for Black Mask, he'd be able to do the creepy sadist thing well!

I'd like to see Tom Hardy as Riddler, he gives off that arrogant/clever vibe.

The only problem with Joseph Gordon-Levitt is that he's too physically similar to Heath Ledger.

paddyismaddy

i cant really see leo ever doing a role like this but who knows

i wouldnt mind seeing emily blunt or rebecca hall as catwoman

me-skywalker

No Leo please, he just not suited enough for the comic universe and Johnny Depp would jsut murder the franchise it would jsut become a Johnny Depp film instead of a Batman film.

Peyton Manning

By any chance, in the comic books did the Riddler go nuts and turn into a villain because his wife died years ago, and he is still haunted by ghostly visions and dreams of her to this day?

If so, then yes, Leo would be a great pick.

Dempsey

Archimedes wrote: »

By any chance, in the comic books did the Riddler go nuts and turn into a villain because his wife died years ago, and he is still haunted by ghostly visions and dreams of her to this day?

If so, then yes, Leo would be a great pick.

Basically it would be a rehash of Inception and Shutter Island with a Bat suit involved

Handsome Bob

Mr. K wrote: »

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I'd like to see Tom Hardy as Riddler, he gives off that arrogant/clever vibe.

I'd love Hardy to be Black Mask but that is an excellent point you made as well. Also, I remember reading an article with pictures showing Hardy before he bulked up and transformed for his role as Bronson. The way he look before his transformation, I hate to insult the guy, but he looked quite skinny and smarmy with greasy hair. :pac: Combine that with the arrogant/clever vibe you mention and I think Hardy could give a very special performance as The Riddler.

TheTosh

Dominic West would be my choice for black mask

Sad Professor

Hopefully we'll start getting some official information about the film soon. It was around this time in 2006, two years before TDK was released, that the title and Ledger's casting were announced.

TonyD79

Sure their not shooting until April 2011. Can see a long wait this time!!!

Handsome Bob

In an industry that has chosen speed/money over quality (Transformers, Twilight), I'm more than happy to wait for quality. :-)

Peyton Manning

Would I be right in saying this movie will have a very, very good chance of breaking a lot of existing highest-gross/box office records? I don't know a whole lot about that side of the movie industry, but surely the hype, expectation and calibre of the first two movies will play a huge part?

syklops

Archimedes wrote: »

Would I be right in saying this movie will have a very, very good chance of breaking a lot of existing highest-gross/box office records? I don't know a whole lot about that side of the movie industry, but surely the hype, expectation and calibre of the first two movies will play a huge part?

If Nolan can pull of a hat trick, and Batman 3 is as good as the previous 2, without any major mistakes, yes I would say it would. By now, most people who had no interest in going to see TDK or BB, will have seen the movies, and hopefully gone, "wow". Some of these people would include people who were Batman fans as kids, but the last Batman movie they saw was Batman and Robin and decided they had grown out of it.

Also, you dont have to be a Batman fan to enjoy TDK. If you like gritty action movies, it still qualifies as an enjoyable flick. In the same way you don't need to be a bond fan to enjoy Casino Royale.

So yes, I think this could break many records. Lets just pray Nolan, or some other force behind him doesn't ruin it.