FAS recriuting for British army in Limerick !!

Zebra3

So where do I sign up to join these lovely chaps.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/27/baha-mousa-inquiry-soldiers

dave 27

hmm, as a Limerick man i seriously cant see people..especially from moyross move to the british army..first thing you see coming into Limerick on the train is C-IRA! :rolleyes:

concussion

dave 27 wrote: »

hmm, as a Limerick man i seriously cant see people..especially from moyross move to the british army..first thing you see coming into Limerick on the train is C-IRA! :rolleyes:

Yes, that graffiti obviously sums up the feelings of the entire city. :rolleyes:


Jim - the PC-9's were not bought for air defence and are not kept on standby for that purpose. They practice the interception etc but they would probably be out-performed by a WW2 Messerschmit and would come off worse if used in that role for anything modern.

pablomakaveli

Jim236 wrote: »

Well he only joined the struggle after coming back from the war, had it been the other way around then I would definitely see him as a traitor. Regardless I'm referring to now, and we're not fighting a war in Europe or a war against Britain, and like I said anyone who joins the British Army is a traitor to their country.

You're contradicting yourself here. If we're not fighting against Britain then an Irishman who joins the british army can't be a traitor.

That simple minded view belongs in the past.

Jim236

pablomakaveli wrote: »

You're contradicting yourself here. If we're not fighting against Britain then an Irishman who joins the british army can't be a traitor.

That simple minded view belongs in the past.

While we're not fighting a war with them, they still occupy part of this island. It wouldn't matter if there was a United Ireland tomorrow anyway, I'd still regard anyone joining the British Army then as a traitor.

@concussion, the point I'm trying to make is that the PC-9 is a trainer aircraft, but we have no fighter jets to train for, so why bother buying the PC-9s in the first place? They were a waste of money because they are effectively useless in any role other than training.

galwayrush

Limerick City needs the British Army to help annex parts of County Limerick and Co Clare.:D

concussion

Jim236 wrote: »

@concussion, the point I'm trying to make is that the PC-9 is a trainer aircraft, but we have no fighter jets to train for, so why bother buying the PC-9s in the first place? They were a waste of money because they are effectively useless in any role other than training.

The Fouga's which we used to operate had very similar performance and weapons fits as the PC-9(they were a bit faster though) and they were training aircraft, not fighters, and weren't used for air-defence. This problem isn't with the Pilatus, it's with the government not giving a damn about defence for decades. The last fighter planes we had were probably the Seafires, as even the Vampires were training versions.

animaal

Jeez, the amount of mindless outrage here is something else.

If you want to hold a grudge, what about all those Scandinavians who came over here in the ninth century - all that pillaging and taking our wimmen.

And before that, those bloody Celts. They wiped out our culture and replaced it with their own!

Let's be honest, the one thing the Vikings and the British have in common is that nobody posting to this thread was alive when they ruled Ireland. Holding actions from 100 years ago against today's British people who weren't born then is no different from holding the Viking invasions against today's Norwegians.

A country is made up of the people that inhabit it, and it's army acts in *their* name - not in the names of people who lived 800 years ago.

minidazzler

Jim236 wrote: »

While we're not fighting a war with them, they still occupy part of this island. It wouldn't matter if there was a United Ireland tomorrow anyway, I'd still regard anyone joining the British Army then as a traitor.

@concussion, the point I'm trying to make is that the PC-9 is a trainer aircraft, but we have no fighter jets to train for, so why bother buying the PC-9s in the first place? They were a waste of money because they are effectively useless in any role other than training.

Do you have any regard for the constitution? A traitor is someone who incites rebellion more or less.

And with the signing of the GFA we relinquished territorial claim over the 6 counties.

Politics and diplomacy has prevailed, and sectarian attacks are quite low compared to the past days. (Violence may not be, but all out attacks seem to be).

I personally have no problem with foreign forces accepting Irish recruits, and believe that the information should be available by mail order. I wouldn't like to see BA stands at Jobs fairs though.

I would have gone myself if it wasn't for these damn eyes!

It seems the sending of this letter was an innocent blunder. The Royal Irish Army doesn't exist and could easily be a mistake in sending the letter. Pure ignorance on the part of the woman. She didn't know what she was doing IMO, and while ignorance technically doesn't excuse crime, this is minor in any sense.

That said, has she even broken a law really? The Royal Irish Army does not exist, so to say she was recruiting for a foreign force is wrong, since that is the name of no foreign force.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tarzan007 wrote: »

Martina McInerney, would want maybe a brother or a boyfriend to head off as cannon fodder to the other side of the world

Well speaking as one with a military background, in fact my father, grandfather and great-grandfather were soldiers (my great grandfather fought with the Royal Dublin Fusillers) the British Army is a career path I've suggested to my son.

I've also sought advice on him joining the US military.

I'd love him to serve in either, in fact I'd be filled with pride.

Jim236

minidazzler wrote: »

I personally have no problem with foreign forces accepting Irish recruits

Which you've made pretty clear on the military forum...

The fact is though it is illegal for any foreign army to recruit in Ireland, and rightly so.

dave 27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js0FR8GkBEo

SlabMurphy

animaal wrote: »

Jeez, the amount of mindless outrage here is something else.

If you want to hold a grudge, what about all those Scandinavians who came over here in the ninth century - all that pillaging and taking our wimmen.

And before that, those bloody Celts. They wiped out our culture and replaced it with their own!

Let's be honest, the one thing the Vikings and the British have in common is that nobody posting to this thread was alive when they ruled Ireland. Holding actions from 100 years ago against today's British people who weren't born then is no different from holding the Viking invasions against today's Norwegians.

A country is made up of the people that inhabit it, and it's army acts in *their* name - not in the names of people who lived 800 years ago.

:rolleyes: Well the Scandinavians haven't been in Ireland for a long time though the British are still occupying the north east of the country. Obviously you have never seen an atlas or a map. You don't have to go back 100 years for the last time the British were murdering people in Ireland. They did plenty of it in and out of unifrom during the troubles and will do so again in a blink if they deem it expedient to do so. :rolleyes:

MagicSean

SlabMurphy wrote: »

:rolleyes: Well the Scandinavians haven't been in Ireland for a long time though the British are still occupying the north east of the country. Obviously you have never seen an atlas or a map. You don't have to go back 100 years for the last time the British were murdering people in Ireland. They did plenty of it in and out of unifrom during the troubles and will do so again in a blink if they deem it expedient to do so. :rolleyes:

Yes they are. Many Irish people are descended from viking bloodlines.

Liam Byrne

dave 27 wrote: »

hmm, as a Limerick man i seriously cant see people..especially from moyross move to the british army..first thing you see coming into Limerick on the train is C-IRA! :rolleyes:

I doubt the idiotic pricks who (a) support terrorists and (b) deface public property with graffiti would be accepted anyway :rolleyes:

who the fug

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I doubt the idiotic pricks who (a) support terrorists and (b) deface public property with graffiti would be accepted anyway :rolleyes:

Have you ever met the average British squaddie, they are not a good advert

prinz

who the fug wrote: »

Have you ever met the average British squaddie, they are not a good advert

I've met many an British squaddie and only came across one who was a total scumbag prat.

Adamisconfused

prinz wrote: »

I've met many an British squaddie and only came across one who was a total scumbag prat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/31/military.prisonsandprobation

"Compiled by probation officers, the report estimates that at least 8,500 former soldiers are in custody - 9 per cent of the UK prison population and nearly double the estimate of a previous study by the Home Office in 2004, which put the figure at 5 per cent."
A significant reason for their criminality is due to the disgraceful way their country has all but neglected the mental health of their returning soldiers. However, tell that to the victims of crime.

who the fug

prinz wrote: »

I've met many an British squaddie and only came across one who was a total scumbag prat.

Sorry give me the the average US squaddie any day, much more polite and are more ambitious in life

prinz

who the fug wrote: »

Sorry give me the the average US squaddie any day, much more polite and are more ambitious in life

That I'd agree with. Had a few experiences with them going through Shannon during the last couple of years. Sound lads, thouroughly depressing looking at them line up in the shop some of them looking about 16 years old.

As for the Brits, I lived for a while near a BA base in Germany and like I said only came across one chavtastic scouser. The rest were alright.

blinding

RustyBeanTin wrote: »

so FAS is now recriuting for the british , the same c**ts who have oppressed this country for hundreds of years.
what is the place coming to?

Well this is Fianna Fáils and the catholic churchs Ireland ! ! !

watchingthepols

Uimhir:374

Ceist Pharlaiminte


Chun an Aire Oideachais agus Eolaíoctha
To the Minister for Education and Science

To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Education and Skills if it is appropriate
for FÁS to be acting as a recruitment agency for the British Army.
- Finian McGrath.





* For WRITTEN answer on Wednesday, 5th May, 2010.
Reference Number: 18045/10

Freagra


Tánaiste Mary Coughlan

I understand that the matter in question relates to the Millennium Jobs Club,
which is funded by FÁS and operated by the Moyross Development Company
Limited. The primary objective of the Jobs Clubs is to provide training to
assist participants who are ready for work to develop skills they can use to
find a job.

FÁS makes funding available to Jobs Clubs on a nationwide basis in order to
cover their running costs. However, the day-to-day operation of each Club is
the responsibility of its Jobs Club Leader under the supervision of the Board
of Management.

At FÁS' request, the Millennium Jobs Club has now ceased the practice referred
to and all Jobs Clubs have been made aware of this matter in order that it will
not happen again.

Manic Moran

prinz wrote: »

That I'd agree with. Had a few experiences with them going through Shannon during the last couple of years. Sound lads, thouroughly depressing looking at them line up in the shop some of them looking about 16 years old.

I did Basic in the US when I was older than most. When we're all lined up giving our dates of birth, I was one of the few to answer in the 1970s. Most were 1980s. (That said, one lad was a grand-dad by the time we graduated)

Now time has moved on, I'm the commander. I have troopers joining my unit now whose year of birth is the 1990s. Talk about making you feel old.

"Compiled by probation officers, the report estimates that at least 8,500 former soldiers are in custody - 9 per cent of the UK prison population and nearly double the estimate of a previous study by the Home Office in 2004, which put the figure at 5 per cent."
A significant reason for their criminality is due to the disgraceful way their country has all but neglected the mental health of their returning soldiers. However, tell that to the victims of crime.

I've been trying to hunt around for the figures, but haven't found them yet. (Not in the article). What percentage of the UK population has been in uniform?

NTM

itsonlywords

Jim236 wrote: »

Btw regarding FÁS advertising for the British Army, the woman who authorised this should be sacked and arrested by the Gardaí for recruting for a foreign army, knowing full well its illegal, and using taxpayers money for it which is even worse!

I don't get why they've sunk so low to resort to advertising for a foreign army. Fair enough theres not a lot of job opportunities goin atm, but people could be going to college, doing FETAC courses, anything to get them a qualification for when things pick up again. People can bang on about skills training people get in the British Army, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who signs up for a foreign army, particularly the British Army is a traitor...

Round of applause for you. You are right. After the years of slaughter in bthis country perpetrated by the british and now our own are recruiting for them. I would willingly jail those people. On this same forums there is a section for the PSNI which in my opinion is just the RUC by another name and it is galling to see them discuss with Irish people , the sign up process etc. The Independent owned by Tony O'Reilly who uses a british title illegally runs adverts for the psni and that is disgraceful also.

toomevara

itsonlywords wrote: »

. After the years of slaughter in bthis country perpetrated by the british and now our own are recruiting for them.

Hmmm I may be wrong but I'm sure that there were a few other parties killing and slaughtering over the past few years...now what were they called again, oh yeah, the IRA.

You could do worse than join the British army if you're interested in becoming a professional soldier. It is, at least a functioning fighting army rather than a glorified gendarmerie.

itsonlywords

toomevara wrote: »

Hmmm I may be wrong but I'm sure that there were a few other parties killing and slaughtering over the past few years...now what were they called again, oh yeah, the IRA.

You could do worse than join the British army if you're interested in becoming a professional soldier. It is, at least a functioning fighting army rather than a glorified gendarmerie.

Yes we know the british army in this country for many many years. They had one particular division named as the black and tans. They were the scum of the earth and jailbirds and slaughtered many thousands of decent Irish people,. The IRA got rid of the scummy army and british rule from the south and they also assisted in ridding us of the likes of the murdering paras from our streets.Remember the killers who were ordered to murder 13 decent innocent people on bloody sunday? So please do not tell me that our feddom fighrers are guilty of slaughter. That is the brits particular trait which has been used against hundereds of thousands of decent Irish.
Join the british army and under the influence of drugs murder decent people.

itsonlywords

toomevara wrote: »

Hmmm I may be wrong but I'm sure that there were a few other parties killing and slaughtering over the past few years...now what were they called again, oh yeah, the IRA.

You could do worse than join the British army if you're interested in becoming a professional soldier. It is, at least a functioning fighting army rather than a glorified gendarmerie.

Spoken like a true Tipp man who likes to tip his hat to the "masters" Shameful if you ask me.

toomevara

itsonlywords wrote: »

y? So please do not tell me that our feddom fighrers are guilty of slaughter.

In my eyes, they are murderers, pure and simple.

itsonlywords

toomevara wrote: »

In my eyes, they are murderers, pure and simple.

Will you condemn the RUC B specials, british army, UDA, etc for their murders? Will you condemn the british for mudering of my ancestors? Nah suppose not when you are on your right knee to your "master" Paddy lie down.

toomevara

itsonlywords wrote: »

Will you condemn the RUC B specials, british army, UDA, etc for their murders?

Yes, I don't indulge in moral relativism.