FAS recriuting for British army in Limerick !!

Hugo Drax

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

this thread is f*ckin hilarious. I saw the letter and its about as genuine as a three bob note. No such thing as the "Royal Irish Army". Royal Irish Regiment, yes Rangers, yes, but the Royal Irish Army is bull****.

However, it has been funny to read the Celtic jersey morons and the Myers/Harrisite lackey morons.

I dont know who is worse.

Thanks, though, because Mondays are usually dull.

I think in terms of sheer capacity to self delude and re-write history, the hats should be well and truly off to the Myers-ites....

Hugo Drax

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

they shouldn't be our ally? Is it not the british we call when we need "real" defence? Such as the RAF?
Correct me if i'm wrong but is it not the RAF that keep our skies safe?

Of course, you're right.

If it wasn't for the English Air Force, Al Qadea and the Iranians would be flying regular bombing sorties over Mullingar wouldn't they?:D:D:D:D

Hugo Drax

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Illegal? Now that one is going to require an explanation.

It's self explanatory, unless you could care to illustrate the contrary?

It wasn't me!

Hugo Drax wrote: »

It's self explanatory, unless you could care to illustrate the contrary?

Illegal generally means it contravenes a law. Care to explain which law?

OS119

Hugo Drax wrote: »

Of course, you're right.

If it wasn't for the English Air Force, Al Qadea and the Iranians would be flying regular bombing sorties over Mullingar wouldn't they?:D:D:D:D

its a pity you don't read newspapers.

on the 11th, 12, and 13th of september 2001 the Irish Government didn't ask the Irish Air Corps for assistance in controlling its airspace, it asked the British Government - who happily acceded to that request.

there was also an EU summit held in Dublin - in the year or so afer 9/11 from what i recall - that required (as all EU summits do) certain security precautions regarding airspace. again the Irish Government asked the UK for asssistance, and again RAF Tornado F3's and E-3D AWACS aircraft graced Irish skies.

and more recently - late last year from recollection - a US civilian airliner flying from Texas to London declared a security problem due to a mad passenger. despite it flying through Irish airspace long before it got to UK airspace, again it was RAF Typhoon fighters that escorted the aircraft all the way over Irish territory to the UK.

all this is fairly irrelevent to the point that a moron in a jobcentre didn't have any understanding of the law, was possibly so stupid that they didn't know whether the original advert related to the Irish Army, the Royal Irish Regiment, or to the wider British Army - and probably doesn't know the difference - and that emmigration now appears to be official social and economic policy of the Irish Government.

ps. please could you stop using 'English' for everything British - England has not existed as a state for the best part of 400 years, not only is casually disrespectful, it makes you look almost as bright as the fcukwit in the jobcentre.

sean corcoran

minidazzler wrote: »

Read the constitution please. Specifically the section mentioning what constitutes treason.

Taliban is technically a political movement not an army. Insurgency movements are different to armies.

the taliban are in their own, freedom FIGHTERS. not a political movement. they fight to defend their country, just as we did the brits.

dr gonzo

sean corcoran wrote: »

the taliban are in their own, freedom FIGHTERS. not a political movement. they fight to defend their country, just as we did the brits.

Its interesting that you have us throwing in with the Taliban considering that any Irish person who expresses a fondness for Britain or an interest in joining their military is labeled a traitor by a worrying large amount of people here.

Why dont you just quit beating around the bush and propose the implementation of Sharia Law for any people who are caught not singing the fields of Athenry at Irish soccer matches.

Fratton Fred

sean corcoran wrote: »

the taliban are in their own, freedom FIGHTERS. not a political movement. they fight to defend their country, just as we did the brits.

would that be the same Taliban that came to power by force and removed 90% of the freedpm of the people of Afghanistan?

with the exceptions of course of women, who lost 100% of their freedom. The same taliban that are targeting girls schools in Afghanistan today because they are opposed to female education?

I'll have the nasty oppressive British regime thanks.

SlabMurphy

OS119 wrote: »

its a pity you don't read newspapers.

on the 11th, 12, and 13th of september 2001 the Irish Government didn't ask the Irish Air Corps for assistance in controlling its airspace, it asked the British Government - who happily acceded to that request.

there was also an EU summit held in Dublin - in the year or so afer 9/11 from what i recall - that required (as all EU summits do) certain security precautions regarding airspace. again the Irish Government asked the UK for asssistance, and again RAF Tornado F3's and E-3D AWACS aircraft graced Irish skies.

and more recently - late last year from recollection - a US civilian airliner flying from Texas to London declared a security problem due to a mad passenger. despite it flying through Irish airspace long before it got to UK airspace, again it was RAF Typhoon fighters that escorted the aircraft all the way over Irish territory to the UK.

I'm not being a doubting Thomas and I've already asked about this on the thread, but is there any actual proof to this or is it hearsay from the military forum ?

Regadless, if they did the above, well, that's Fianna Fail the Republican party for you

Jim236

OS119 wrote: »

its a pity you don't read newspapers.

on the 11th, 12, and 13th of september 2001 the Irish Government didn't ask the Irish Air Corps for assistance in controlling its airspace, it asked the British Government - who happily acceded to that request.

there was also an EU summit held in Dublin - in the year or so afer 9/11 from what i recall - that required (as all EU summits do) certain security precautions regarding airspace. again the Irish Government asked the UK for asssistance, and again RAF Tornado F3's and E-3D AWACS aircraft graced Irish skies.

and more recently - late last year from recollection - a US civilian airliner flying from Texas to London declared a security problem due to a mad passenger. despite it flying through Irish airspace long before it got to UK airspace, again it was RAF Typhoon fighters that escorted the aircraft all the way over Irish territory to the UK.

What plane do the Irish Air Corps have that can intercept a passenger jet at high altitudes? Their PC-9s can go up to 38,000ft, but at those altitudes they can't do anywhere near the speeds of most passenger jets. Thats why they call in the RAF...

I'm not defending that policy, personally I think the Irish Air Corps should buy 4 second-hand fighter jets for that purpose, and remove our reliance on Britain to defend us. Sweden and Switzerland are both neutral countries, yet they both have fighter jets for a defence capacity. The PC-9 that the IAC use are meant as a training aircraft before pilots start training in fighter jets. But the IAC are using them in a fighter capacity as a defence for the country. It makes no sense that our government spent tens of millions buying these PC-9 planes, only for them to have no role beyond pilot training. If anything thats more of a waste of money than buying fighter jets we don't need, its like buying a dining table without the chairs.

What we should've done is bought the PC-9's as training aircraft, and bought 4 second-hand F-16s or something similar. Then we wouldn't have to rely on the RAF to defend us.

And anyone that says they'd be a waste of money, whats a waste of money is a country of our size having 3 government planes, especially one that none of them like to fly in(i.e. the Learjet).

SlabMurphy

Fratton Fred wrote: »

would that be the same Taliban that came to power by force and removed 90% of the freedpm of the people of Afghanistan?

with the exceptions of course of women, who lost 100% of their freedom. The same taliban that are targeting girls schools in Afghanistan today because they are opposed to female education?

I'll have the nasty oppressive British regime thanks.

Well say what you will, but the Taliban did have some fair amount of supporters over there - as bizarre as it may appear to us.

But still, I'm sure many of the Afghan women and men would rather be alive than be free. And I'm sure targetting school girls will be no problem for the lads from Britain either as they have a very long history of it around the world.

Jim236

Btw regarding FÁS advertising for the British Army, the woman who authorised this should be sacked and arrested by the Gardaí for recruting for a foreign army, knowing full well its illegal, and using taxpayers money for it which is even worse!

I don't get why they've sunk so low to resort to advertising for a foreign army. Fair enough theres not a lot of job opportunities goin atm, but people could be going to college, doing FETAC courses, anything to get them a qualification for when things pick up again. People can bang on about skills training people get in the British Army, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who signs up for a foreign army, particularly the British Army is a traitor...

concussion

Jim236 wrote: »

But the IAC are using them in a fighter capacity as a defence for the country.

No, they're not; We don't use anything for airborne air defence.

Jim236

concussion wrote: »

No, they're not; We don't use anything for airborne air defence.

Yes they are, and thats the problem. They weren't meant for that role, and we're left with a situation now where at high altitudes they're useless and we have to rely on a foreign air force to defend us, but even at low altitudes they'd be useless too against fighter jets.

Fratton Fred

SlabMurphy wrote: »

And I'm sure targetting school girls will be no problem for the lads from Britain either as they have a very long history of it around the world.

LOL......SlabMurphy giving lecturing on targeting civilians

pablomakaveli

Jim236 wrote: »

People can bang on about skills training people get in the British Army, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who signs up for a foreign army, particularly the British Army is a traitor...

Tom Barry served in the British Army and i'm pretty sure he would'nt be classed as a traitor.

Jim236

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Tom Barry served in the British Army and i'm pretty sure he would'nt be classed as a traitor.

Well he only joined the struggle after coming back from the war, had it been the other way around then I would definitely see him as a traitor. Regardless I'm referring to now, and we're not fighting a war in Europe or a war against Britain, and like I said anyone who joins the British Army is a traitor to their country.

MagicSean

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Well say what you will, but the Taliban did have some fair amount of supporters over there - as bizarre as it may appear to us.

But still, I'm sure many of the Afghan women and men would rather be alive than be free. And I'm sure targetting school girls will be no problem for the lads from Britain either as they have a very long history of it around the world.

Much like your namesake does.

Jim236 wrote: »

Btw regarding FÁS advertising for the British Army, the woman who authorised this should be sacked and arrested by the Gardaí for recruting for a foreign army, knowing full well its illegal, and using taxpayers money for it which is even worse!

I don't get why they've sunk so low to resort to advertising for a foreign army. Fair enough theres not a lot of job opportunities goin atm, but people could be going to college, doing FETAC courses, anything to get them a qualification for when things pick up again. People can bang on about skills training people get in the British Army, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who signs up for a foreign army, particularly the British Army is a traitor...

Pitiful attitude. Especially seeing as how we're a neutral country. What possible harm could it do. I think its terrible that you would disgrace the names of so many good people who fought in World War 2 and gave their lives to defeat the Nazis.

owenc

RoverJames wrote: »

My Dad told me years back there was an add for the British army, "Join the services and see the World", it was altered to read "Join the Tans and see the other". His brother was in the RAF.

OMG that was in one of my text books!

Jim236

k_mac wrote: »

Pitiful attitude. Especially seeing as how we're a neutral country. What possible harm could it do. I think its terrible that you would disgrace the names of so many good people who fought in World War 2 and gave their lives to defeat the Nazis.

The fact that we claim to be a neutral country is reason in itself to be against any foreign army, particularly the British Army(an army involved in a war), recruiting here.

And I care more about the sacrifices of what the men and women gave here at home to achieve independence, than those who fought in Europe for a foreign monarch on behalf of a foreign nation.

MagicSean

Jim236 wrote: »

The fact that we claim to be a neutral country is reason in itself to be against any foreign army, particularly the British Army(an army involved in a war), recruiting here.

And I care more about the sacrifices of what the men and women gave here at home to achieve independence, than those who fought in Europe for a foreign monarch on behalf of a foreign nation.

What good would our independence have done us if the Nazis had taken over Britain?

Jim236

k_mac wrote: »

What good would our independence have done us if the Nazis had taken over Britain?

If...

And what good would it have done us if everyone signed up to the British Army to fight for a foreign country, in the misguided and naive hope that it would help bring about Home Rule for Ireland? If not for the sacfrifices of a few at home, we may well still be part of the UK today, like Scotland, still seeking independence...

MagicSean

Jim236 wrote: »

If...

And what good would it have done us if everyone signed up to the British Army to fight for a foreign country, in the misguided and naive hope that it would help bring about Home Rule for Ireland? If not for the sacfrifices of a few at home, we may well still be part of the UK today, like Scotland, still seeking independence...

I don't get where you're coming from. How did Irish people fighting in WW2 affect the Independence movement. Where we not already independent in 1944?

Nodin

k_mac wrote: »

Much like your namesake does.



Pitiful attitude. Especially seeing as how we're a neutral country. What possible harm could it do.

...because if we allow a foriegn government to recruit for its armed forces through our govermentakl agencies, we aren't being "neutral".

Jim236

k_mac wrote: »

I don't get where you're coming from. How did Irish people fighting in WW2 affect the Independence movement. Where we not already independent in 1944?

Sorry I misread your post, I thought you were referring to WWI.

But regardless, they were fighting in a foreign army for a foreign country. Without being disrespectful to those who died, the majority of those who fought with the British were from Anglo-Irish backgorunds who saw the British Army as their army.

I'm not gonna apologise for calling anyone a traitor that decides tomorrow to go off and join the British Army, regardless of who fought in past WW's.

mike65

Hugo Drax appears to have gone to ground, maybe Britains finest got him.

Andy-Pandy

Anyone that wants to join any army needs to get there head checked, it doesnt matter what army Irish, British, Finish. I come from a army background my dad was a an Irish man serving as a officer in the british Army, lieutenant colonel in the Paras. I wouldnt think of him as a traitor, just a **** Dad and a total c(u)nt.

RustyBeanTin

so FAS is now recriuting for the british , the same c**ts who have oppressed this country for hundreds of years.
what is the place coming to?

sean corcoran

Fratton Fred wrote: »

would that be the same Taliban that came to power by force and removed 90% of the freedpm of the people of Afghanistan?

with the exceptions of course of women, who lost 100% of their freedom. The same taliban that are targeting girls schools in Afghanistan today because they are opposed to female education?

I'll have the nasty oppressive British regime thanks.

im not talking about that, that is very wrong. but the taliban are at the moment fighting to keep a foreign force out of their country

Manic Moran

but the taliban are at the moment fighting to keep a foreign force out of their country

No, they're fighting to regain their control of the country. As long as it's not them, they'll fight whoever's in Kabul, be they foreigners or Afghans.

NTM