FAS recriuting for British army in Limerick !!

Theta

Hugo Drax wrote: »

Funny, I thought England still had a standing army.

Who was used in the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan?

The London Met??

The British Army. See what the difference is there!

Rabies

Hugo Drax wrote: »

Actually the English Army is officially barred from recruiting in this country as are all foreign armies.

If FAS are doing this than they may be breaking the law.

Nothing wrong with that agent for FAS saying to apply to the English army.

I think someone has posted saying the Irish army is not taking new recruits, is this true?

If so, then nothing wrong with it.

therecklessone

Hugo Drax wrote: »

Why are they so desperate to recruit Irishmen?

Cos they can save two weeks firearms training by recruiting from Limerick.

kodute

sean corcoran wrote: »

anyone who joins is a traitor to ireland. if someone wants to join the british army let them go to britain, but dont let them back. im sorry but i know its all over now but after the whole 800 years they shouldnt even be our ally nevermind be allowed recruit here. do you think the americans would allow the taliban to recruit in new york? this is wrong and is going to cause contraversy.

Capitalisation, or lack thereof, is causing great controversy alright. :pac:

Hugo Drax

kippy wrote: »

If thats the point of the post then say it, instead of pricking around asking how would the writer of the letter feel if it was her son or daughter.......
Why wouldnt they be allowed use an Irish State organisation to assit in recruitment, especially an Irish state organisation with the task of assisting people get jobs.
Whats the deal with the Muslim guy and the taliban? Irish people have a long history in serving in various parts of the British armed and indeed civilian (police) forces......

Well no self respecting country is going to allow foreign armies to steal potential recruits for it's own armies right out from under it's nose.

I watched a documentary a couple of years back about Dubs in the English army and they were all lads that had been rejected by the Irish army first.

Make of that what you will;)

It wasn't me!

sean corcoran wrote: »

anyone who joins is a traitor to ireland. if someone wants to join the british army let them go to britain, but dont let them back. im sorry but i know its all over now but after the whole 800 years they shouldnt even be our ally nevermind be allowed recruit here. do you think the americans would allow the taliban to recruit in new york? this is wrong and is going to cause contraversy.

Look, it was a French king of a broken corner of what's currently Great Britain under a papal mandate, at the invitation of a despotic king of a broken, squabbling corner of Ireland. Welcome to the political reality of the high mediaeval period of western Europe. There were an assortment of oppressive laws and actions across the span of British/Irish history, many of them deriving from an incredibly complex societal structural relationship established from the twelfth century on. The picture people paint of some quaint utopia having been suddenly invaded by savage and barbarous hordes is ridiculous. What happened was merely the reality of international relations at the time, and mild by some comparisons. As to not being our "ally", yeah, what we need is less international support. The Taliban comment is just stupid; there's no comparison.

However, it is illegal for foreign militaries to actively recruit in Ireland. Fás may be in hot water here for effectively soliciting for them.

Hugo Drax

Theta wrote: »

The British Army. See what the difference is there!

No, can't say I do.

Is there a difference?:rolleyes:

Rabies

FAS are not directly advertising

tricky D

therecklessone wrote: »

Cos they can save two weeks firearms training by recruiting from Limerick.

Given the way yer man shot himself in the head with a chambered round last year , they'll more likely need an extra 2 weeks.

concussion

sean corcoran wrote: »

the british army is recruiting here. it would be different anywhere else but ireland is not the place to do it

I don't think any foreign military should recruit in the country and I don't think FÁS should be doing it on their behalf, if this is indeed the case. However, the rest of your post is just plain sad.

Hugo Drax

Rabies wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that agent for FAS saying to apply to the English army.

I think someone has posted saying the Irish army is not taking new recruits, is this true?

If so, then nothing wrong with it.

Unless it's illegal.

But since FAS is the same State Agency that was running junkets for Roddy Molloy to NASA for reasons unknown I don't think we should really take them seriously on any level....

Hugo Drax

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Look, it was a French king of a broken corner of what's currently Great Britain under a papal mandate, at the invitation of a despotic king of a broken, squabbling corner of Ireland. Welcome to the political reality of the high mediaeval period of western Europe. There were an assortment of oppressive laws and actions across the span of British/Irish history, many of them deriving from an incredibly complex societal structural relationship established from the twelfth century on. The picture people paint of some quaint utopia having been suddenly invaded by savage and barbarous hordes is ridiculous. What happened was merely the reality of international relations at the time, and mild by some comparisons. As to not being our "ally", yeah, what we need is less international support. The Taliban comment is just stupid; there's no comparison.

However, it is illegal for foreign militaries to actively recruit in Ireland. Fás may be in hot water here for effectively soliciting for them.

Wow what a neat pice of revisionist trite nonsense.

As for allies, we have the EU. England is part of that, we're not exactly at war with them are we.

We just can't ally ourselves to their more illegal activites such as the invasion of Iraq etc.

ejmaztec

Liam Byrne wrote: »

You both should apply.....you've a better chance at that career than as a comedian :rolleyes:

Is "talking through your arse" a career ?

It is for me.:P


...anyway, I went to Limerick yesterday, and wasn't murdered once, although I almost got robbed in a couple of shops.

Rabies

sean corcoran wrote: »

anyone who joins is a traitor to ireland. if someone wants to join the british army let them go to britain, but dont let them back. im sorry but i know its all over now but after the whole 800 years they shouldnt even be our ally nevermind be allowed recruit here. do you think the americans would allow the taliban to recruit in new york? this is wrong and is going to cause contraversy.

I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to stir sh!t but good job...

either way, its sh!te talk

sean corcoran

Rabies wrote: »

I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to stir sh!t but good job...

either way, its sh!te talk

im not trying to stir anyting but i think that the british of all people should NOT be allowed to recruit in this country.

concussion

Would you be opposed to the US or Australian military recruiting in the country?

Hugo Drax

sean corcoran wrote: »

im not trying to stir anyting but i think that the british of all people should NOT be allowed to recruit in this country.

They're NOT allowed.

And the letter linked to looks about as real as a €3 note.

Caoimhín

sean corcoran wrote: »

anyone who joins is a traitor to ireland. if someone wants to join the british army let them go to britain, but dont let them back. im sorry but i know its all over now but after the whole 800 years they shouldnt even be our ally nevermind be allowed recruit here.y.

I doubt you have ever as much as thrown a rock in anger Sean.

Childish barstool Republicanism.

It wasn't me!

Hugo Drax wrote: »

Wow what a neat pice of revisionist trite nonsense.

As for allies, we have the EU. England is part of that, we're not exactly at war with them are we.

We just can't ally ourselves to their more illegal activites such as the invasion of Iraq etc.

Yeah, way to debate individual points there; good man. If you want to critique the finer points of twelfth century international diplomacy, you'd do well to look at Ireland in the context of European patterns at the time.

The mutual defence aspect of the EU is a touchy point. Look how tetchy people get if you mention the idea of an EU army for instance.

And you can argue against the invasion of Iraq on modern political grounds without bringing the "800 years!" bollocks into it.

Hugo Drax

concussion wrote: »

Would you be opposed to the US or Australian military recruiting in the country?

All foreign military are banned from recruiting here.

Just as all foreign military are banned from recruiting in the USA or England.

It's just common sense on the State's part.

Tarzan007

sean corcoran wrote: »

im not trying to stir anyting but i think that the british of all people should NOT be allowed to recruit in this country.

I'd totally agree. Is there any other country in Europe that would allow their historic occupiers and murderers recruit on their soil. What next, have the Queen as head of state ? That's the Fianna Fail republic for you.

Rabies

Wow...

Then you need to get out of that old mind set that is stuck in so many and get over it.
All that crap happened so long ago.

The Irish army, English army or any army really doesn't have to be made up of its own nationality.

If that person wants to fight for what ever army and their policy, let them.

cson

Go on home Britsh Army, go on home!
Have ye no fecking soldiers of ye're own!

:pac:

blinding

Let the politicians and the bankers that caused the mess in this country join the British army.

I am sure they would be a great asset (the brits would end up shooting the useless wind bags).

itsonlywords

Tarzan007 wrote: »

Apparently the FAS Job club in Moyross sent around a letter. Is it right that an agency of the Irish govt. should be recruiting for a foreign govt ? I wonder would the author of the letter, Martina McInerney, would want maybe a brother or a boyfriend to head off as cannon fodder to the other side of the world ? http://lh5.ggpht.com/_IyLgewChzv8/S9VN6gvhKLI/AAAAAAAAAJc/FHEpLruiU2U/barmy.jpg Though it must be said, a few fellows in Limerick would already have experience in firearms !!!

Not forgetting that is the same army who murdered many people in the north. This is a disgraceful move.I will enquire if that is true and if so I will make representations to have it halted immediately. I am as annoyed at this as I was about the RUC recruiting here on the Indo for cops that would end up harassing nationalists. That same army will maybe in the future slaughter more Irish people.

the_syco

Tarzan007 wrote: »

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_IyLgewChzv8/S9VN6gvhKLI/AAAAAAAAAJc/FHEpLruiU2U/barmy.jpg

That's not a FAS letter. It's a letter from some random job agency, with FAS stuck down the bottom.

Hugo Drax

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Yeah, way to debate individual points there; good man. If you want to critique the finer points of twelfth century international diplomacy, you'd do well to look at Ireland in the context of European patterns at the time.

The mutual defence aspect of the EU is a touchy point. Look how tetchy people get if you mention the idea of an EU army for instance.

And you can argue against the invasion of Iraq on modern political grounds without bringing the "800 years!" bollocks into it.

What 800 years bollocks into it? I never mentioned any such thing.

Unfortunately the history between Ireland and England is long and bloody and very unfortunate.

Fantasists like yourself who attempt to re-write history should be consigned to the same nut-hatch as Ruth Dudley Edwards, Kevin Myers and Eoghan Harris.

In fact, are you one of those 3?

blinding

Tarzan007 wrote: »

I'd totally agree. Is there any other country in Europe that would allow their historic occupiers and murderers recruit on their soil. What next, have the Queen as head of state ? That's the Fianna Fail republic for you.

How much longer are these shower going to be Lording it over us.

concussion

Hugo Drax wrote: »

All foreign military are banned from recruiting here.

I know that, but that's not what the question is

itsonlywords

Rabies wrote: »

Wow...

Then you need to get out of that old mind set that is stuck in so many and get over it.
All that crap happened so long ago.

The Irish army, English army or any army really doesn't have to be made up of its own nationality.

If that person wants to fight for what ever army and their policy, let them.

Irishmen join the army who slaughtered our people? Traitors I would call them.