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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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    #9422
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Payne?

    Nu Zilund.


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    #9423
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Payne?

    Well if you don't count Stander then you can't count Payne!


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    #9424
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Stander is IQ?! Didn't know that.

    But wait who are the Saffers on the two teams? Muller and Pienaar at Ulster and WDP and Botha at Munster... Am I missing someone obvious at Ulster?

    No he isn't. He will be on 31st October 2015 if he's still about then.


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    #9425
    Fireball07
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Stander is IQ?! Didn't know that.

    But wait who are the Saffers on the two teams? Muller and Pienaar at Ulster and WDP and Botha at Munster... Am I missing someone obvious at Ulster?

    Wannenburg might have been included...has Terblanche left??

    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The backrow situation is looking good alright, the oldest in the squad are now Ronan (30 in September) and Coughlan (32 in December).

    It looks good for the future...but as for right now, it depends on how good Stander is at the moment. Hopefully it'll all work out.


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    #9426
    danthefan
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    Terblanche has retired and Wannenburg is gone to France.


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    #9427
    thomond2006
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    You'd wonder if Stander's arrival means Barry O'Mahoney isn't signing. With Dougall coming as well that's a lot of backrows.


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    #9428
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Payne?
    Hagz wrote: »
    Nu Zilund.
    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Well if you don't count Stander then you can't count Payne!

    Christ it's been a long day. Someone please correct any of this if I'm still wrong at this stage!


    Ulster
    Payne (P)
    Herring (IQ - along lines of Court)
    Pienaar (NIQ)
    Muller (NIQ)
    Afoa (NIQ)

    Munster
    Stander (P)
    Botha (NIQ)
    WdP (NIQ)
    Lualala (NIQ)
    Howlett (NIQ)

    Leinster
    Strauss (P)
    Nacewa (NIQ)
    VdM (NIQ)


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    #9429
    Cpt_Blackbeard
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    You'd wonder if Stander's arrival means Barry O'Mahoney isn't signing. With Dougall coming as well that's a lot of backrows.

    We would have BOM, Ronan, TOD, Dougall and Stander/POM all as 7s. Pretty crazy really.


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    #9430
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Christ it's been a long day. Someone please correct any of this if I'm still wrong at this stage!


    Ulster
    Payne (P)
    Herring (IQ - along lines of Court)
    Pienaar (NIQ)
    Muller (NIQ)
    Afoa (NIQ)

    Munster
    Stander (P)
    Botha (NIQ)
    WdP (NIQ)
    Lualala (NIQ)
    Howlett (NIQ)

    Leinster
    Strauss (P)
    Nacewa (NIQ)
    VdM (NIQ)


    You might as well take Strauss off the list, he's IQ before the AIs, essentially he's now available for selection.


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    #9431
    profitius
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    The Saffas are not happy with Stander signing for Munster. One poster wrote..
    The guy is only 22, he's a future star and starting week in week out for the bulls. He is the best tackler in SA and probably all SR and was/is destined to be a bok. Only mainstays such as Alberts, Burger, Spies, Vermuleun and other nailed on youngster such as Coetzee & Kolisi look like they will challenge him in future for a regular bok jersey.

    On a side note, the average age of the Munster team has really gone down in the last 2 seasons.


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    #9432
    Fireball07
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    profitius wrote: »
    The Saffas are not happy with Stander signing for Munster. One poster wrote..



    On a side note, the average age of the Munster team has really gone down in the last 2 seasons.

    Sounds good to me. The best tackler in SA part, in particular.


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    #9433
    Iron Hide
    Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Iron Hide


    The guy is only 22, he's a future star and starting week in week out for the bulls. He is the best tackler in SA and probably all SR and was/is destined to be a bok. Only mainstays such as Alberts, Burger, Spies, Vermuleun and other nailed on youngster such as Coetzee & Kolisi look like they will challenge him in future for a regular bok jersey.

    I'm a regular Super Rugby viewer and tbh, CJ Stander is as good a prospect as any that SA have had in recent years. He lost out on the starting 6 jersey for the series against England to Coetzee by the toss-up of a coin i'd reckon.

    On a side note, is Pierre Spies possibly the worlds most over-rated player?


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    #9434
    Podge_irl
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Sounds good to me. The best tackler in SA part, in particular.

    Munster are in desperate need of some ball carrying in their backrow though.


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    #9435
    Fireball07
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Munster are in desperate need of some ball carrying in their backrow though.

    It's true...but I doubt he's a terrible carrier. I have no idea what he's like in that regard but generally South African back rows are all well able to carry.

    And POM should be working on that part of his game, he's by no means bad but he can improve. And Coughlan is pretty good already.


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    #9436
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Iron Hide wrote: »
    On a side note, is Pierre Spies possibly the worlds most over-rated player?

    No. So many people have called him overrated that he is no longer overrated (He does suck though). It's sort of like how John Hayes won the unsung hero award a few years in a row (surely unsung hero award is an oxymoron anyway).


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    #9437
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Christ it's been a long day. Someone please correct any of this if I'm still wrong at this stage!


    Ulster
    Payne (P)
    Herring (IQ - along lines of Court)
    Pienaar (NIQ)
    Muller (NIQ)
    Afoa (NIQ)

    Munster
    Stander (P)
    Botha (NIQ)
    WdP (NIQ)
    Lualala (NIQ)
    Howlett (NIQ)

    Leinster
    Strauss (P)
    Nacewa (NIQ)
    VdM (NIQ)

    Seems right to me.

    So if Munster come up against Ulster again this season then we should all expect Hugh Farrelly to write an article about how if Munster win it'll be bad for Irish rugby!


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    #9438
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Browsing a few pages, a lot of SA fans are upset Stander is leaving. That can only be a good omen!

    Unfortunately he won't be available until the conclusion of the Currie Cup.


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    #9439
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Munster can always cross their fingers that him leaving might piss off the bulls management and they might consider an early release.

    As long as he gets here before the AIs, otherwise he's effectively increasing the amount of time it'll take for him to qualify by 3 months!


    A great young back row Munster have now. Maybe a little lacking in the short term but full of potential.


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    #9440
    thomond2006
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    Just saw it on MFs, Munster now have a BJ, CJ and JJ. Where's the DJ? :D


    dj.jpg


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    #9441
    Otacon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Where's the DJ? :D

    Could be the next shock signing!?

    Oxegen-2-02_Lib_626007s.jpg

    :pac:


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    #9442
    thomond2006
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    Otacon wrote: »
    Could be the next shock signing!?

    Oxegen-2-02_Lib_626007s.jpg

    :pac:

    jesus I have an image of Mark Robson from Sky saying:

    "Here comes Cian Healy, also known as DJC (DJ Church). If you remove the D and invert the JC, you get CJ Stander's first name"


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    #9443
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    "Here comes Cian Healy, also known as DJC (DJ Church). If you remove the D and invert the JC, you get CJ Stander's first name"

    :pac:

    "So 'C' stands for 'CJ'. What does the extra J stand for?"
    "That's a typo."



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    #9444
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    http://www.munsterfans.com/threads/30916-Squad-for-2012-2013/page7?p=1083280&viewfull=1#post1083280

    Squad outlook for next season.


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    #9445
    Fishooks12
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    I think Danny Barnes could have a big year. The guy is almost the forgotten man of the group of promising young Irish backs that have emerged

    I think the style of "attack" we played last year wasn't suited to him so hopefully Penney can get him improving again


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    #9446
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    I think Danny Barnes could have a big year. The guy is almost the forgotten man of the group of promising young Irish backs that have emerged

    I think the style of "attack" we played last year wasn't suited to him so hopefully Penney can get him improving again
    Is he going to play ahead of Downey, Laulala and Earls?


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    #9447
    Fishooks12
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Is he going to play ahead of Downey, Laulala and Earls?

    True actually


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    #9448
    bamboozle
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Is he going to play ahead of Downey, Laulala and Earls?

    and i'd expect Dineen & Hanrahan to jump ahead of him in the queue next season.


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    #9449
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Yeah Barnes may not get much gametime next season, remember his time in the HEC team last season was down to Earls being injured (went off against Leinster in the Aviva, I was there).


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    #9450
    roycon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭roycon


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Just saw it on MFs, Munster now have a BJ, CJ and JJ. Where's the DJ? :D


    dj.jpg

    the DJs a leinster man:D


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    #9451
    unplayable
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭unplayable


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    I think Danny Barnes could have a big year. The guy is almost the forgotten man of the group of promising young Irish backs that have emerged

    I think the style of "attack" we played last year wasn't suited to him so hopefully Penney can get him improving again

    ban please


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