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Waterford's Nightlife megathread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭ Musicman2000


    Sure the Kavanaghs are well able to do that:D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sully


    angry_fox wrote: »
    Whats escape like on a saturday night???

    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 744 ✭✭✭ angry_fox


    No idea tbh.If I went in there id probably be accused of being a pervert and im 24 :pac:

    you could be the new "rubys pervert"


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭ MitchKoobski


    angry_fox wrote: »
    Whats escape like on a saturday night???
    mosh_pit.jpg
    *May not actually be Escape


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 744 ✭✭✭ angry_fox


    Is that a student night out? think i see sully in the background


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭ dayshah


    ziedth wrote: »
    oh good god overcrowded, I think I was a good 10min waiting to get served which to me is nine and half min to long.

    In a way that is good news as it means there should be a market for Ruby's or some other place to reopen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭ MitchKoobski


    angry_fox wrote: »
    Is that a student night out? think i see sully in the background
    Yup.
    mosullysh_pit.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭ jonnyfingers


    People are just not going out as much anymore but there is a chance for one more bar...but it needs to look good, have great service and be targeted at over 23s.
    .

    I'd love such a bar.

    I was in Leuven in Belgium for a short holiday last month. Geographically it's about the size of Waterford, it's a student town where the University provides most of the out-going public, as well as having some industrial manufacturing on the outskirts. So pretty similar to us.

    But it has 250 bars and restaurants, and they all seem to do well. What I really like was that all the bars took their beers seriously. Every bar had a beer menu longer than any food menu. Each beer you got also had its own official glass, e.g. Leffe in a Leffe glass, Hoegaarden in a Hoegaarden glass, etc. You had quite bars, loud bars, music bars, nite club/late night bars etc. but in all you got a good choice of beer, as well as sprits/wine. Each pub had a so-called "cheap" beer on tap, usually Stella or Jupiler, which is brewed in Leuven. Both are lovely. You rarely got a pint, most drink sizes were 25, 33 or 50cl as quantities are metric. This wasn't bad as you'd actually drink a little less over the course of a night. You would expect to pay around €2 for a 33cl glass of on-tap beer, all between 5 and 6% ABV. For a fancy beer, like a trappist ale or a high ABV beer you would pay about €3-€4 for a 33cl glass. These you would tend to drink slower as they're a heavier beer, and I think psycologically the fancy glass you get them in make them seem larger than they are.

    I would really love to open a similar bar in Waterford. One where you have a nice choice of beers, both cheaper ones on tap and then slightly more expensive bottles in the fridge. You'd get a nice glass to drink it from instead of a dirty over-washed Carlsberg glass when you're drinking cider like I've seen in some places! I'd almost opt for no music like Downes' where you can have a chat earlier in the night maybe and then light background music for anyone staying a bit longer. I honestly think there would be a market for it. If you could keep the overheads low it could become the venue of choice for anyone looking to drink nice beer in a nice athmosphere without paying too far over the odds.

    Now I neither have the means or the balls to open such a bar in Waterford at the moment but I really wish someone else would! I could appreciate that importing nice beers might be expensive but the world is full of nice beer, surely some obscure ones can be cheap. If you can get bottles of Tyskie for €2 in an off-licence could a pub have it on tap for less than €3.50? I wouldn't mind drinking that. Plus I'd rather spend a little more on a quality beer, especially if it's over 6% ABV, and drink it slowly. If there were a few hundred more like me we'd have a customer base! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭ Kanoe


    doesn't Geoffs work like that? They have a good few beers to choose from anyway..and all kinds of strange glasses to drink them from :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭ jonnyfingers


    zxy wrote: »
    doesn't Geoffs work like that? They have a good few beers to choose from anyway..and all kinds of strange glasses to drink them from :D

    Both Geoffs and Downes' are similar alright, they're also where I like to drink the most! But I'd like somewhere with more choice. I like the idea of the Porterhouse micro-brewery in Dublin where it has it's own brewed beers on tap and a huge selection of bottles. Maybe the Dungarvan Brewing company could do the same!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭ dayshah


    I'd love such a bar.


    Now I neither have the means or the balls to open such a bar in Waterford at the moment but I really wish someone else would! I could appreciate that importing nice beers might be expensive but the world is full of nice beer, surely some obscure ones can be cheap. If you can get bottles of Tyskie for €2 in an off-licence could a pub have it on tap for less than €3.50? I wouldn't mind drinking that. Plus I'd rather spend a little more on a quality beer, especially if it's over 6% ABV, and drink it slowly. If there were a few hundred more like me we'd have a customer base! :D

    The problem with comparing with Leuven is that they have a bigger hinterland, Belgium is densely populated. However there should be room for at least one place like that here.

    I posted previously my idea of a 'beer bar' instead of a 'wine bar'. You wouldn't need a spirits licence for your idea, so it would be a lot cheaper to operate (less security too), so I think it would work.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Beeker


    Traffic sat night in the Forum was great! Prom night, 50's style, great crowd and great craic!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭ c - 13


    angry_fox wrote: »
    so its now rubys, oxegen, muldoons the woodman and oskars that have closed???

    Twister Vicks are closed too I hear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭ Kanoe


    c - 13 wrote: »
    Twister Vicks are closed too I hear
    heard they've moved out to portlaw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭ c - 13


    zxy wrote: »
    heard they've moved out to portlaw.

    Portlaw ? Bit of an unusual destination


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭ Ledger


    We can add mordant's to the list of closures too, it closed about two or three weeks ago.
    Though if the whispers i hear are true it will be opening again under new management.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭ AdMMM


    Ledger wrote: »
    We can add mordant's to the list of closures too, it closed about two or three weeks ago.
    Though if the whispers i hear are true it will be opening again under new management.
    That will be the third time it's changed hands in 2 years?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭ Adyx


    c - 13 wrote: »
    Portlaw ? Bit of an unusual destination

    There's some sort of arrangement with whoever has the Pellum (?). Twister Vicks should be re-opening though. Actually I'm supposed to be playing there Friday night, better make some calls!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭ Ledger


    AdMMM wrote: »
    That will be the third time it's changed hands in 2 years?!



    yea i know. i've heard the rent on it is very high though. maybe thats why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭ MitchKoobski


    The Forum looks to be seizing the opportunity. €5 gigs for O Emperor, Knights of Leon and Delorentos and more bands I cant think of atm over the next few months until christmas. Free entry was nice, but I don't mind paying €5 in before 12 for that! :D


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Beeker


    The Forum looks to be seizing the opportunity. €5 gigs for O Emperor, Knights of Leon and Delorentos and more bands I cant think of atm over the next few months until christmas. Free entry was nice, but I don't mind paying €5 in before 12 for that! :D
    Fight Like Apes, Noise Control, Cast Of Cheers, Sweet Jane and We Should Be Dead are also playing acording to the Facebook site:)

    Sounds good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭ AdMMM


    The Forum looks to be seizing the opportunity. €5 gigs for O Emperor, Knights of Leon and Delorentos and more bands I cant think of atm over the next few months until christmas. Free entry was nice, but I don't mind paying €5 in before 12 for that! :D
    They obviously read our thread about the place dying :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭ MitchKoobski


    AdMMM wrote: »
    They obviously read our thread about the place dying :)
    They're totally hip and cool like that :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭ abouttobebanned


    So...where did it all go wrong?

    Does anyone think there's an argument for saying that places like Tramore and Ardkeen/Dunmore Road could be to blame? Huge resident populations that just don't come into town anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭ Santan


    peoples lives have changed, 10 - 15 years ago most people 18 to 28 did not have big mortgages, car loans, loans out for holidays, most lived at home with their parents, so going out was a major part to play in socialising which they could do more often as they did not have these loans to repay, now its much steeper prices for drinks, fags, taxis, everything to do with going out is probably 10 times what it used be, so people who are now 18 - 28 have their houses, rented or owned and now have the option to have a house party, or just have a few friends over for drinks mid week or for the drinks before going out on a weekend night, 15 years ago if you wanted to see a lot of soccer matches, you went to the pub, or maybe i was just deprived of bbc, but now you can sit at home with your sky, 50 inch plasma, surround sound system 20 miller for €20 and smoke in comfort, times have changed


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭ Mr Ed


    But there's new 18 - 28 year olds knocking about the city, where are they?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭ ziedth


    ^ that's an interesting point now I don't go near the likes of escape (due to a court order :), not really) so it's hard to know but there seemed to be more 17-21 age crowd when I started going out even from looking around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭ dayshah


    Mr Ed wrote: »
    But there's new 18 - 28 year olds knocking about the city, where are they?

    Yes, but there was a baby boom after the pope came in the late 70s, so now there are less 18-28s. In about 15 years the current baby boom will start drinking, so wait 14 years and then buy a pub :)

    Overall I think most people prefer to go out (no cleaning and more sociable) than a house party, but price is the issue (including taxis). I read about €3 pints. That should get the crowds in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭ abouttobebanned


    Bring the drinks down to €3 and pub owners are
    1. Really struggling to make a profit
    2. Thinking that they're gonna attract roughians!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭ dayshah


    Bring the drinks down to €3 and pub owners are
    1. Really struggling to make a profit
    2. Thinking that they're gonna attract roughians!

    Well €3 might be a bit low, but they'd increase volume. When choosing to go out I think of the whole deal, and pubs have no control over taxi fares (I'm happy enough with the price of a burger or something, I usually wouldn't be bothered queueing).

    Other than prices, why else are people not going out. Sure some pubs are struggling to make a profit, but that will continue if people keep drinking at home.


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