Waterford's Nightlife megathread

abouttobebanned

Ok, I know what you're all thinking...me again, and another thread about nightlife. And I'm sure there's been a few of these..:rolleyes:

But, I spent ages looking for a thread about the nightlife and as far back as february i still couldn't find one...seriously! And you all love me...admit it.

Anyway...we can all agree...the city is in some trouble...but I'd like your opinions on something:



Some good bands up there..some local and some not...however, none of them are particuarly well known. ticket prices €15 before hand...€20 on the day. I've wanted to put an event on in Wyse Park for a long time, but I wanted to put on a big act.

The question I'm asking is...would you pay 20 quid for the above? This is something that Spraoi have been doing for years for free...would you now pay money to see some very good bands, but unfortunately fairly unheard of bands with some unheard of songs. I think events like this are great, as you know I'm a big supporter of bands in waterford but the way things are going in waterford at the moment is it a bit optimistic to expect people to pay this kind of money for this? I'd expect people to get bored pretty quickly when they didn't know any of the songs...

I do hope to see people on this thread supporting this event...and I'd love them to support it in reality too... It just wouldn't be something that I'd run...

ex_infantry man

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Ok, I know what you're all thinking...me again, and another thread about nightlife. And I'm sure there's been a few of these..:rolleyes:

But, I spent ages looking for a thread about the nightlife and as far back as february i still couldn't find one...seriously! And you all love me...admit it.

Anyway...we can all agree...the city is in some trouble...but I'd like your opinions on something:



Some good bands up there..some local and some not...however, none of them are particuarly well known. ticket prices €15 before hand...€20 on the day. I've wanted to put an event on in Wyse Park for a long time, but I wanted to put on a big act.

The question I'm asking is...would you pay 20 quid for the above? This is something that Spraoi have been doing for years for free...would you now pay money to see some very good bands, but unfortunately fairly unheard of bands with some unheard of songs. I think events like this are great, as you know I'm a big supporter of bands in waterford but the way things are going in waterford at the moment is it a bit optimistic to expect people to pay this kind of money for this? I'd expect people to get bored pretty quickly when they didn't know any of the songs...

I do hope to see people on this thread supporting this event...and I'd love them to support it in reality too... It just wouldn't be something that I'd run...

firstly is there goin to be alcohol sold at this event???

Musicman2000

Ive heard of The Pale, The rest I wouldnt have a clue about, I think these bands would appeal to a very select crowd, and I wouldnt pay that kind of money for bands ive never heard of.

abouttobebanned

ex_infantry man wrote: »

firstly is there goin to be alcohol sold at this event???

Presumably...or maybe they'll give plastic glasses and you can buy the drinks in revolution

KevIRL

Over priced at 20 quid. Best band on there is the Fighting Spiders I think.

Hopw it goes well for the organisers though.

Also thats the weekend of Waterford's first game in the hurling championship which will affect numbers

Hoffmans

any local charitys benefitting from it
oh i see the city council badge on the poster 'they'll do....

Adyx

Kytte are a good band as well, kinda Queens of the Stone Age-ish. €20 is a bit much though.

dayshah

I know none of the bads, but like live music.

For me I would be gambling €20 that I would like it. Why take the risk when I can have guaranteed fun by losing €20 in Kilcohan?

Also, yes Spraoi do it for free. For €20 I would expect a "national" band to headline it, like Bell X1, and even then I would think €15 a more fair price.

ziedth

It wouldn't interest me at all tbh,

You get free band in anypub down town.

Daysha is right you would expect an aslan or bell x1 from that price. You only have to look at the fourm and see what only a little more money can get you.

Still though I wish them the best of luck, weather will play a major part IMO get a nice day and your laughing.

pommers

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Ok, I know what you're all thinking...me again, and another thread about nightlife. And I'm sure there's been a few of these..:rolleyes:

But, I spent ages looking for a thread about the nightlife and as far back as february i still couldn't find one...seriously! And you all love me...admit it.

Anyway...we can all agree...the city is in some trouble...but I'd like your opinions on something:



Some good bands up there..some local and some not...however, none of them are particuarly well known. ticket prices €15 before hand...€20 on the day. I've wanted to put an event on in Wyse Park for a long time, but I wanted to put on a big act.

The question I'm asking is...would you pay 20 quid for the above? This is something that Spraoi have been doing for years for free...would you now pay money to see some very good bands, but unfortunately fairly unheard of bands with some unheard of songs. I think events like this are great, as you know I'm a big supporter of bands in waterford but the way things are going in waterford at the moment is it a bit optimistic to expect people to pay this kind of money for this? I'd expect people to get bored pretty quickly when they didn't know any of the songs...

I do hope to see people on this thread supporting this event...and I'd love them to support it in reality too... It just wouldn't be something that I'd run...

As you said the city is in trouble and fair play for making an effort i say,and yes i would support it:D

old gregg

yea as a few have posted before, I think it needs a bigger headliner before folks would part with the money.

molby

Pauline Black and the Selecter are a Ska band from the UK and I have seen them twice in Waterford before.They are very good band and were very big in the 80's.Well worth a look.

abouttobebanned

It looks to be a good value line up if you'rea music fan...it probably cost them 10-15k to run.... But, knowing Waterford people like I do...

Jack burton

Ah cool we can all look at little ashley with the big arms being cooler than any of us can ever hope to be!

Seriously though I'll head down to this I'd say, somthing a bit different and migt be good

KevIRL

abouttobebanned wrote: »

It looks to be a good value line up if you'rea music fan...it probably cost them 10-15k to run.... But, knowing Waterford people like I do...

Haha, so you say on one hand that its value if you are a music fan, but on the other hand decide to take a swipe at regular Waterford people. Fact is, if you want the get the crowds its going to need to percieved as value by a large number of people and not just hit a niche market.

I'm sure plenty of 'music fans' might not be too enthused about the line up as well.

Hardlife

rang the number on the poster ,you can buy tickets from revolution for €15 leading up to the gig .
Suppose its to sell tickets b4 the day.

abouttobebanned

I agree with ya. As a business proposition I don't think it will work because there isn't any "marquee" acts on that line up. Money has gotten tighter in Waterford so value has become more important than ever.

The dig at Waterford people comes from their ability to queue down the road for jedward tickets, sell out a Calvin Harris gig where the Best act of the night is actually the local lad and not support a lot of the things that local businesses try to do to get their business.

dayshah

The weather is also an issue for this one. Safer bet to buy tickets close to the date.

eventfac

abouttobebanned wrote: »

I agree with ya. As a business proposition I don't think it will work because there isn't any "marquee" acts on that line up. Money has gotten tighter in Waterford so value has become more important than ever.

The dig at Waterford people comes from their ability to queue down the road for jedward tickets, sell out a Calvin Harris gig where the Best act of the night is actually the local lad and not support a lot of the things that local businesses try to do to get their business.

Let me address your marquee comment first off .
Wyse park is certainly no 02 arena or marley park ,it is a small urban green space that will hold in or around 1500 people ,so when configuring the line up this was brought into account .
Pauline Black of the Selecter and the Pale are two fantastic headline bands ,and perfectly suitable for a small venue ,both have a great history spanning back several decades .
I would like a proper definition of what you consider "Marquee"

Spellbound another great festival feel band ,the kings of rock a billy ,I have seen these play to a live out door audience and the atmosphere was electric to say the very least.
Ben Reel is anther great Irish artist ,if you haven't heard of him check him out you will be suitably impressed .
Fighting spiders, Kytte and Dirty 10-1 ,some great local talent in those three right there .
You cant have a small gig like this and not show case some of the cities finest talent ,it just wouldnt be right,dont you agree ?
The whole ethos of Party in the Park is to supply good quality entertainment and the best value possible .
€15 for 8 hours of music to me is not a bad price (considering the average nightclub is €10).
Yes I agree things are tight and yes we are working on a limited budget to hold this event ,the city council have been very good to us and have indeed helped us out in getting the show on the road ,that in itself is very positive .

We have had good feed back from the PR we have started to put together ,a group running on facebook has over 700 members

KingLoser

hi eventfac,

what's the story with drink? can we bring our own? 15/20 entrance fee, and then having to spend 8 hours on pub prices would be a deal-breaker for me (and most people i know) i'm afraid.

abouttobebanned

Shall we have a poll to see how many people have heard of these bands? Listen, I'm all for things like this...all I'm saying is that it wouldn't be for me. The City Council will support anything like this at the moment cause they see that the city is dying and are willing to support everything right now...another reason why the spraoi was split in two...to create another weekend of excitement in the town.

Hardlife

abouttobebanned wrote: »

The question I'm asking is...would you pay 20 quid for the above? This is something that Spraoi have been doing for years for free...

I do hope to see people on this thread supporting this event...and I'd love them to support it in reality too... It just wouldn't be something that I'd run...

If you run events surely you know that sproai can put on free events because they receive funding to do so

eventfac

KingLoser wrote: »

hi eventfac,

what's the story with drink? can we bring our own? 15/20 entrance fee, and then having to spend 8 hours on pub prices would be a deal-breaker for me (and most people i know) i'm afraid.

Ill keep you posted on that one ,there will be full bar facilities on site .
Two different companies are being spoken to atm ,again we will be pushing to gain the best value possible on prices.
We are very aware of the current climate and understand peoples situation ,money is a head ache for every one atm ,our budget made my head hurt :P

eventfac

dayshah wrote: »

The weather is also an issue for this one. Safer bet to buy tickets close to the date.

The great Irish summer gotta love it :cool:

abouttobebanned

Hardlife wrote: »

If you run events surely you know that sproai can put on free events because they receive funding to do so

That's not the point. The point is, the people of waterford are used to seeing bands that are good, but that they don't know, for free.

abouttobebanned

eventfac wrote: »

Ill keep you posted on that one ,there will be full bar facilities on site .
Two different companies are being spoken to atm ,again we will be pushing to gain the best value possible on prices.
We are very aware of the current climate and understand peoples situation ,money is a head ache for every one atm ,our budget made my head hurt :P

Be honest mate, there's no way in the world that people will be allowed bring their own drink in. Honesty is the best policy on this forum.

Hardlife

abouttobebanned wrote: »

That's not the point. The point is, the people of waterford are used to seeing bands that are good, but that they don't know, for free.

Iv heard of all these bands bar dirty ten to one ,quick goggle sorted that out ,not my cup of tea but hey horses for courses eh .
seen the pale a few times really looking forward to seeing them outdoors ,hope it dosnt rain hehe

abouttobebanned

Dirty ten to one are actually my favourite band from the list. It seriously is a decent line up...I'm not disputing that and i hope people don't think that I'm contradicting myself here.

My point was, from a business point of view, I don't think it will recoup the money invested in it because, from my experience, waterford people won't pay into a event unless there is a big act on show.

I will go on record as saying that I think it would be great if it was a success.

wellbutty

I don't think Waterford people are any different when it comes to forking out hard-earned cash to watch bands. The majority of people in any part of any country will pay for bands they know, even if they're generally seen as rubbish by others!

As a few people have said, you can get music in most pubs most nights and have €20 worth of pints, without having to stand in the not-very-exotic Wyse Park hoping the weather is good...without a drink.

However I do admire your efforts to stir some life into the city but it's going to be hard to make it work given the other choices available.

dayshah

I suppose €15 for 8 hours is alright, but what times would it be on at (prob finish at 11?).

Also, would it be possible to go in at 3, head off at 6 for dinner, come back 7, go at 8 to meet someone, come back again etc. etc.

ziedth

You would have way more people go to this if you could bring your on booze,

Put it like this, IMO the average person will prob go maybe spend 3 hours maybe 4 or 5 if you get the weather, say €20 in and the average guy will buy one drink every 20min @ €5 a drink and all of a sudden your running into a fairly expensive night.

eventfac

dayshah wrote: »

I suppose €15 for 8 hours is alright, but what times would it be on at (prob finish at 11?).

Also, would it be possible to go in at 3, head off at 6 for dinner, come back 7, go at 8 to meet someone, come back again etc. etc.

That is possible yes ,wrist bands will be supplied on entry to the event ,this will allow you to pass freely for the duration

Sully

Mod Note
Okay folks, as much as I love a good debate and discussion - lets not go down the route of multiple accounts per person. It seems that we have two accounts posting here belonging to the one person - so can we drop that and lets keep the discussion fair.

Thanks.

ziedth

can you Who?

Everyone who has posted so far seems to post fairly regularly from what I can tell from the mobile site?

abouttobebanned

At a guess I'd say Eventfac and Hardlife were one and the same, or at least from the same office.

Sully

abouttobebanned wrote: »

At a guess I'd say Eventfac and Hardlife were one and the same, or at least from the same office.

Same person - removed from the site by an admin for Advertising/Shilling. Shame really, but if thats the route you wish to go down!

ziedth

Two threads about this over in the prison fourm.

It appears abouttobebanned is evil

abouttobebanned

Abouttobebanned hasn't got a clue who these people are and can assure them, whoever they are, that this thread was started with absolutely no malice intended. They do seem to be very paranoid though. If they know me so well surely they can just ring me for a chat or send me a pm on here. I don't particularly like the accusations that have been made about me in the prison forum and this events company are making themselves look very childish tbh.

ziedth

Well I said I'd draw your attention too it anyway,

We all believe you

abouttobebanned

I still don't know who these people are by the way...

But talking to someone else about this project I have learned that it's going to be, what we'd call a Community Development Project. Essentially, any money made from it will be put aside and used to develop the next event that could be bigger and better.

Drink will, obviously, be sold at the event but they are doing their best to make the drink as reasonable as possible (€4 pints presumably).

You can see what they're trying to do...and like everything that will bring more people into the city, it's to be applauded.

AdMMM

The brothers must have went on the same typing course :rolleyes: .

MickClince12118

having to pay 15euro in and prob 50 euro for drink throughout the day simply is not going to work without a big act to look forward to at the end of the gig, end of as far as i'm concerned. Jaded Sun are an act I would definitely be looking at if i was organising this.... also swanee river are a superb northern band that have not made it big down south yet. As far as knowing the acts goes for me it's 0 people will not pay and stay for a nameless gig

jo06555

OFF topic slightly but was anyone out last sat night in town and if so did they see a crowd of girls goin around starting on others ?? my girlfriend was out and got started on with her friend for no reason what so ever , the bouncers said after the group of girls were after starting on other women too that night .?? any one notice them.... she was also told the bouncers said they may have bein travellers so i dont know.

ziedth

I wasn't but I'm after noticing a sort of scummy undercurrent after poping up around town lately,

I dunno the majority just seem to be that bit more messy and as you day starting on people.

jo06555

ziedth wrote: »

I wasn't but I'm after noticing a sort of scummy undercurrent after poping up around town lately,

I dunno the majority just seem to be that bit more messy and as you day starting on people.

Ye iv noticed it too , i prefer if i go out now to just go out during the day or good band in pub , i try stay clear of town if i can .:(

rayc

jo06555 wrote: »

OFF topic slightly but was anyone out last sat night in town and if so did they see a crowd of girls goin around starting on others ?? my girlfriend was out and got started on with her friend for no reason what so ever , the bouncers said after the group of girls were after starting on other women too that night .?? any one notice them.... she was also told the bouncers said they may have bein travellers so i dont know.

Taxi driver said something to me about a certain 'element' in town on Friday night, something to do with a wedding or funeral he thought. Maybe overspill from that.

abouttobebanned

The owner of Kitty Kearnans sent a message to all its followers on facebook yesterday:

MASSIVE NEWS

HI EVERYONE,

FANTASTIC NEW NIGHTCLUB OPENING IN WATERFORD CITY SOON.

IT'S GONNA BRING A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO TOWN!!!

KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN AS ALL WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY.

I have my doubts. Apparently he's talking about TEN.

Just in case anyone reading this has is thinking about opening another late night venue in waterford - DON'T!!

Rubys, Ruby Lounge, Muldoons, Escape, Harveys. They're all only hanging in there imo..

dayshah

abouttobebanned wrote: »

The owner of Kitty Kearnans sent a message to all its followers on facebook yesterday:



I have my doubts. Apparently he's talking about TEN.

Just in case anyone reading this has is thinking about opening another late night venue in waterford - DON'T!!

Rubys, Ruby Lounge, Muldoons, Escape, Harveys. They're all only hanging in there imo..

Let anyone give it a go I say and the best will survive.

Musicman2000

He might want to take a walk around the town Monday to Sunday apart from Saturday, Its a ghost town, Venues that are open at the moment are dead, who ever is opening a new venue number 1 needs their head checked, and a breath of fresh air, What can be different in another commerical club?

AdMMM

dayshah wrote: »

Let anyone give it a go I say and the best will survive.

With nobody offering anything different, it only serves to dillute the demographic of those who go out. This is bad.

Simply put (probably a bit too simply), if there's 4 venues, each offering the same experience and equally as popular, with a capacity of 800 each, but only 1000 people going out every weekend then we're going to have only 250 people in each venue. Firstly, the overheads of operating such large venues with low occupancy will eat into the owners ability to offer a good experience at prices customers can happily afford. If customers are getting the same bad experience in all the venues, then they'll simply find a substitute to going out.

The old saying is that competition is good for the consumer but this really only applies when there's adequate demand to allow for it.

dayshah

AdMMM wrote: »

With nobody offering anything different, it only serves to dillute the demographic of those who go out. This is bad.

Simply put (probably a bit too simply), if there's 4 venues, each offering the same experience and equally as popular, with a capacity of 800 each, but only 1000 people going out every weekend then we're going to have only 250 people in each venue. Firstly, the overheads of operating such large venues with low occupancy will eat into the owners ability to offer a good experience at prices customers can happily afford. If customers are getting the same bad experience in all the venues, then they'll simply find a substitute to going out.

The old saying is that competition is good for the consumer but this really only applies when there's adequate demand to allow for it.

I appreciate your point, but people will just herd into the places with a decent crowd. Like when Bowery was open, but not many went there. A 'different' place is important though to be successful.