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M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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    #1922
    thethinker
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Taken today on the Scarawalsh to Dunsinane/Clonroche road, Enniscorthy bypass. It's not open yet.
    Pointing northeast to where the unopened road crosses over the L6124.

    Thanks. I hope a concrete barrier will be put down. BAM recent update still claimed end of July, so maybe that was in reference to outstanding works like that.


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    #1923
    marno21
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    That section just appears to be a climbing lane. No need for any barrier, especially with the lack of traffic conflicts as a result of the overbridge.


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    #1924
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,352 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    It's currently showing on levels 13 to 19 here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/52.5020/-6.5554 and should show on other views in the next day or two.

    Any feedback on the map can be added via the 'Add a note to the map' button on the right of the screen.


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    #1925
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    The 1km tailback into Oylegate was probably people out for a drive, going fully around the roundabout and driving back to Clough.....


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    #1926
    mydiscworld
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    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2019/0718/1063894-m11-motorway-wexford/

    €400m M11 motorway extension opens south of Gorey

    they have a video of the opening too


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    #1927
    medoc
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    Sorry to go off topic but why wasn’t the R772 continued between junction 17 and 18? Seems a strange gap to leave over such a short distance.


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    #1928
    bruschi
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    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    The 1km tailback into Oylegate was probably people out for a drive, going fully around the roundabout and driving back to Clough.....

    doubt it. They have replaced the pedestrian traffic lights now with full on junction traffic lights so it will back traffic up for miles coming into Oylegate.


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    #1929
    kneemos
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    bruschi wrote: »
    doubt it. They have replaced the pedestrian traffic lights now with full on junction traffic lights so it will back traffic up for miles coming into Oylegate.

    Should be fun when the school opens.


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    #1930
    Cantona's Collars
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    bruschi wrote: »
    doubt it. They have replaced the pedestrian traffic lights now with full on junction traffic lights so it will back traffic up for miles coming into Oylegate.

    Similar tailbacks on Wednesday evening before the bypass even opened while they were installing the lights. There was also extra traffic anyway due to crowds headed to Wexford park.
    If that's the trend, there'll be a lot of people in the know using the back roads to bypass Oylegate.


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    #1931
    murphaph
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    marno21 wrote: »
    That section just appears to be a climbing lane. No need for any barrier, especially with the lack of traffic conflicts as a result of the overbridge.
    Is it normal though to allow the downhill traffic to cross over to the uphill side and (from the visible markings at least) use both oncoming climbing lanes to overtake? I am reminded of old UK S3 roads with a "suicide lane" in the middle. It could just be I'm missing context but the layout immediately struck me as unusual.


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    #1932
    ezra_
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    Cantona's Collars wrote: »
    If that's the trend, there'll be a lot of people in the know using the back roads to bypass Oylegate.

    If thats the way I'm thinking about - you could barely pass an oncoming bike on that road...


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    #1933
    marno21
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    medoc wrote: »
    Sorry to go off topic but why wasn’t the R772 continued between junction 17 and 18? Seems a strange gap to leave over such a short distance.

    The N11 Ashford/Rathnew bypass was built on the old road for a short distance south of J17, and the decision was taken not to build an R772 for this short distance and use the alternative route via Wicklow instead.


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    #1934
    m17
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    The m11 18/07/19
    yP4XAr1.jpg


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    #1935
    josip
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    How is New Ross currently signed from the bypass if the Link Road isn't ready?
    Still off at Clogh or later?


    Is the Tomnafunshoge interchange only off for southbound traffic?


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    #1936
    marno21
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    josip wrote: »
    How is New Ross currently signed from the bypass if the Link Road isn't ready?
    Still off at Clogh or later?


    Is the Tomnafunshoge interchange only off for southbound traffic?
    New Ross is probably signed as was planned. Exit at J25, continue along the N30/N80 link to Scarawalsh, into Enniscorthy and old the existing N30.

    The signage is probably all wrong around the area but that's only a temporary problem.


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    #1937
    josip
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    And for anyone in Enniscorthy and then wants to head to Dublin.
    Is it out the old N30 to the N80 junction (Clavass) and then come back on yourself to Ballydawmore?


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    #1938
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Say my name wrote: »
    Not yet.

    20190718-163544.jpg

    I thought that line marking had been discontinued as it is dangerous. The dotted/continuous line was replaced by double continuous line - no crossing.

    That is an accident waiting to happen.


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    #1939
    marno21
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    I thought that line marking had been discontinued as it is dangerous. The dotted/continuous line was replaced by double continuous line - no crossing.

    That is an accident waiting to happen.

    It isn't really. It's a lightly trafficed route with excellent sight lines - the photo may not make this clear.

    It's also a warning line rather than a broken white line to reflect the caution required in this scenario.


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    #1940
    josip
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    marno21 wrote: »
    It isn't really. It's a lightly trafficed route with excellent sight lines - the photo may not make this clear.

    It's also a warning line rather than a broken white line to reflect the caution required in this scenario.


    Is this layout operational anywhere else in Ireland?
    I thought hashing was best practice on all National Roads now, even where sightlines are excellent.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Fi4ES7cdAE4o8etj6
    https://goo.gl/maps/ZZA6rFtkr8fWgvGS9
    https://goo.gl/maps/ifVC9dFgGAz7jirV6


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    #1941
    marno21
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    josip wrote: »
    Is this layout operational anywhere else in Ireland?
    I thought hashing was best practice on all National Roads now, even where sightlines are excellent.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Fi4ES7cdAE4o8etj6
    https://goo.gl/maps/ZZA6rFtkr8fWgvGS9
    https://goo.gl/maps/ifVC9dFgGAz7jirV6

    Must be a south east thing above. The layout on the new N30 is the one I'm familiar with from Cork/Kerry


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    #1942
    BelfastVanMan
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    I could've sworn there was a metal barrier between the two sides at that point; the point where it is effectively 2+1....maybe I imagined it.


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    #1943
    josip
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Must be a south east thing above. The layout on the new N30 is the one I'm familiar with from Cork/Kerry


    If it's a south east thing then the Enniscorthy lads should stop getting notions and get back in line. :D


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    #1944
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    Sorry, my bad.
    Was thinking that pic was the southern end of the new M11.
    I realise now it's the western N30 link.
    I wasn't aware it has overtaking lanes.


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    #1945
    marno21
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    josip wrote: »
    If it's a south east thing then the Enniscorthy lads should stop getting notions and get back in line. :D
    There must have been a lot of blowins working on the N30 link ;)

    BTW:

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.3533867,-9.3289797,3a,75y,185.26h,89.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA8UzZ0Y2EncW8sps27L7ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.210191,-9.5662222,3a,75y,348.37h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siloqyl0Q7jRDJwJ_SKP24g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@51.9807184,-9.2606085,3a,75y,274.66h,73.51t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDJEGQpyO1LAeJdMAojYiKA!2e0!6s


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    #1946
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    The ones I met were all a great bunch of lads, especially the 2 who let me park up inside the cones at Oulart Road link roundabout yesterday, and then let me onto the new road as soon as they got radioed through and told it was open. I even got to see them lift the barriers away with the tractor...I was like a kid in a sweetshop.
    :-D


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    #1947
    tonc76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    josip wrote: »
    Is this layout operational anywhere else in Ireland?
    I thought hashing was best practice on all National Roads now, even where sightlines are excellent.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Fi4ES7cdAE4o8etj6
    https://goo.gl/maps/ZZA6rFtkr8fWgvGS9
    https://goo.gl/maps/ifVC9dFgGAz7jirV6

    As far as I know the hatching in those cases was designed to narrow the lane widths thereby reducing the perceived width and reducing travel speeds.


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    #1948
    Sam Russell
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    tonc76 wrote: »
    As far as I know the hatching in those cases was designed to narrow the lane widths thereby reducing the perceived width and reducing travel speeds.

    They are effectively double white lines, unless that are dotted along the side you are on. It is illegal to cross onto the hatching if the line your side is continuous.


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    #1949
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    So is the part of the N30 from the M11 to the start of the N80 open? But not the rest of the N30?


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    #1950
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    spacetweek wrote: »
    So is the part of the N30 from the M11 to the start of the N80 open? But not the rest of the N30?

    Yes.


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    #1951
    CoBo55
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    Took a short spin on it earlier. One concern I'd have is with the ballydawmore to blackwater road, someone after driving dual carriageway all the way from Dublin might not realise it's a two way traffic road, they should have two way traffic signs and arrows on it to remind people that it's two way.


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