Tuesday 12th - Strong winds, Heavy Rain & Surprise Snow

maquiladora

Looks like we might be in for another spell of rough weather of a different kind on Tuesday with a low pressure system off the SW coast giving us gales (in parts) and lashing rain (almost everywhere)...

Met Eireann are saying :

Becoming very windy on Tuesday with gale force southeast to east winds developing. A band of precipitation will spread northeastwards during the day and Tuesday night but probably not reaching far northern regions.

Wind forecast chart for Tuesday morning :


http://www.xcweather.co.uk

South, southeast and eastern costal areas could see sustained 80kmph winds with gusts over 100kmph. Inland gales are likely in the south/southeast/east with gusts inland of around 80kmph possible.

Along with the strong wind will come very heavy rain extending over most of the country, though further north it may still be cold enough to fall as sleet/snow.

Precipitation forecast :



Lovely :cool:

cherryghost

1st to call it rain all over the country.

maquiladora

cherryghost wrote: »

1st to call it rain all over the country.

Could happen, but I would be surprised if some places at least on high ground in the northern half of the country didnt see some sleet/snow mixed in.

Min

I'm going for more snow for the hills around here.

Graces7

Here too...

All the forecasts isolate Ulster. We will it seems be the last to thaw.

Ah well.... More and more knitting is getting done..

Just wish the water would come back so I can stock the bottles again.

And that the one mile of iced road would clear; has been nearly four weeks now and I am getting very cranky!

Min wrote: »

I'm going for more snow for the hills around here.

snaps

The atlantic front is right on the SW munster coast now. Infact UKMO is picking up 1st percip from it

Deep Easterly

Hirlam 00z run forecast for tomorrow morning:



Rain, sleet, snow, kitchen sink. Looks a bit breezy too....

fuelinjection

Wind ? :eek:
Cold ? :eek:
Rain ? :eek:
Stormy ? :eek:

January ? :eek:
Ireland ? :eek:

Okay enough of the mass panic about the weather, its January and we live in Ireland. I think some people are addicted to the spreading of "end of the world" messages when we live in a moderate climate in a nice part of the word.

If you disagree then man up and find your testicles.

Deep Easterly

fuelinjection wrote: »

Wind ? :eek:
Cold ? :eek:
Rain ? :eek:
Stormy ? :eek:

January ? :eek:
Ireland ? :eek:

Okay enough of the mass panic about the weather, its January and we live in Ireland. I think some people are addicted to the spreading of "end of the world" messages when we live in a moderate climate in a nice part of the word.

If you disagree then man up and find your testicles.

The above I cannot disagree with, but what exactly is your point? Nobody on here is spreading doom or panic. Just observing what may or may not happen weatherwise in the near future. Do you have a problem with that?

red menace

fuelinjection wrote: »

Wind ? :eek:
Cold ? :eek:
Rain ? :eek:
Stormy ? :eek:

January ? :eek:
Ireland ? :eek:

Okay enough of the mass panic about the weather, its January and we live in Ireland. I think some people are addicted to the spreading of "end of the world" messages when we live in a moderate climate in a nice part of the word.

If you disagree then man up and find your testicles.

The simple solution is not to read the weather forum then.
All I see is people discussing various scenarios for the coming week.

Spiritoftheseventies

Thawing out now. Roads clear in north dublin

M.T. Cranium

My concern (despite not living in Ireland) is for those who might be tempted to risk a walk through the rain tomorrow in areas that still have lots of snow. It won't all melt at once, and I recall a very similar situation here (near Vancouver where I live), it was also in January and back in 1997, we had seen a heavy snowfall overnight, 15-20 cms, then a steady rainfall, rising temps, and it probably looked safe to go out especially if someone had shovelled your own walk. Problem was, to get anywhere, you had to navigate big slushy piles of snow and it was still lethally icy in places, with the water over top. There were literally dozens of people around the city, mostly elderly or infirm, suffering broken hips, or other serious injuries, just from a brief and ill-advised walk in those conditions. This is what I fear could happen in some parts of Ireland tomorrow with the rain and rapidly rising temperatures, if you start the rain event with snow cover. There's going to be a period probably from sunrise to after lunch time, when it's not going to be very safe to go out in the expected conditions, but if all the snow clears away by tonight in other places, it might not be so bad for them (assuming it starts off as rain tomorrow morning).

Anyway, I hope the TV and radio people stress that some of the older folk should think about riding this out indoors and not rush off to the shops just because they hear it's +5 outside, wait for all that snow to wash away first.

Graces7

DE thank you

The issue here is one of perception.

Way back they accused me of complaining when I was simply stating and recording conditions and their effects.

As i said then, if THEY were saying those things, they may well be complaining..
I was not..

He is transferring his feelings on to others.

Deep Easterly wrote: »

The above I cannot disagree with, but what exactly is your point? Nobody on here is spreading doom or panic. Just observing what may or may not happen weatherwise in the near future. Do you have a problem with that?

mickydcork

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

My concern (despite not living in Ireland) is for those who might be tempted to risk a walk through the rain tomorrow in areas that still have lots of snow. It won't all melt at once, and I recall a very similar situation here (near Vancouver where I live), it was also in January and back in 1997, we had seen a heavy snowfall overnight, 15-20 cms, then a steady rainfall, rising temps, and it probably looked safe to go out especially if someone had shovelled your own walk. Problem was, to get anywhere, you had to navigate big slushy piles of snow and it was still lethally icy in places, with the water over top. There were literally dozens of people around the city, mostly elderly or infirm, suffering broken hips, or other serious injuries, just from a brief and ill-advised walk in those conditions. This is what I fear could happen in some parts of Ireland tomorrow with the rain and rapidly rising temperatures, if you start the rain event with snow cover. There's going to be a period probably from sunrise to after lunch time, when it's not going to be very safe to go out in the expected conditions, but if all the snow clears away by tonight in other places, it might not be so bad for them (assuming it starts off as rain tomorrow morning).

Anyway, I hope the TV and radio people stress that some of the older folk should think about riding this out indoors and not rush off to the shops just because they hear it's +5 outside, wait for all that snow to wash away first.

Spot on!
The footpaths around south Dublin are treacherous!

200motels

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

My concern (despite not living in Ireland) is for those who might be tempted to risk a walk through the rain tomorrow in areas that still have lots of snow. It won't all melt at once, and I recall a very similar situation here (near Vancouver where I live), it was also in January and back in 1997, we had seen a heavy snowfall overnight, 15-20 cms, then a steady rainfall, rising temps, and it probably looked safe to go out especially if someone had shovelled your own walk. Problem was, to get anywhere, you had to navigate big slushy piles of snow and it was still lethally icy in places, with the water over top. There were literally dozens of people around the city, mostly elderly or infirm, suffering broken hips, or other serious injuries, just from a brief and ill-advised walk in those conditions. This is what I fear could happen in some parts of Ireland tomorrow with the rain and rapidly rising temperatures, if you start the rain event with snow cover. There's going to be a period probably from sunrise to after lunch time, when it's not going to be very safe to go out in the expected conditions, but if all the snow clears away by tonight in other places, it might not be so bad for them (assuming it starts off as rain tomorrow morning).

Anyway, I hope the TV and radio people stress that some of the older folk should think about riding this out indoors and not rush off to the shops just because they hear it's +5 outside, wait for all that snow to wash away first.

Well said, the paths here are lethal.

JPA

Are the BBC wrong? I see this forecast nowhere else. They say Heavy Snow for Dublin as well.

fuelinjection

Oh God the world is too dangerous to live in. Stay in bed. Never go out.

1./ It's good to warn people about extreme events like we had last week.

2./ Wise up, temps are back to normal and you need to find another hobby or obsession until extreme weather is back again. Yes slippy roads are bad, yes too much rain is bad, but really how do you think your ancestors existed and managed to have kids.

drag0n79

fuelinjection wrote: »

Wise up, temps are back to normal and you need to find another hobby or obsession until extreme weather is back again.

Nah, you're not getting it, this is the Weather forum. For most of the regulars in here, weather is the obsession (extreme or not).

Tactical

fuelinjection wrote: »

Wind ? :eek:
Cold ? :eek:
Rain ? :eek:
Stormy ? :eek:

January ? :eek:
Ireland ? :eek:

Okay enough of the mass panic about the weather, its January and we live in Ireland. I think some people are addicted to the spreading of "end of the world" messages when we live in a moderate climate in a nice part of the word.

If you disagree then man up and find your testicles.

Oh No,

Its the END OF THE WORLD....
Eeeeeek, why didn't somebody tell me?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::P:P:P:D:D:D

M.T. Cranium

This is now looking like a major impact weather system with some serious wind, rain, snow (northeast) and flooding impacts for much of the country.

It may seem like NBD in a few places but for many this is going to pose some serious challenges tomorrow and even the forecast itself is not that well-defined, it's the classic collision of the air masses with Ireland in the middle.

Taking my overnight break now, hope to get back at it around 5 pm.

Redsunset

Correct MT,tis shaping up very nicely,plenty of energy in it.

I could be wrong but something like this set up can potentially dump very large quantities of snow,simply because of intensity and as you say the warm air,cold air battleground scenario.

Very interesting indeed.

Tactical

Thanks for the update MT, I'll be following this one closely as I'll have a lot of travel on for the rest of the week.

munsterlegend

redsunset wrote: »

Correct MT,tis shaping up very nicely,plenty of energy in it.

I could be wrong but something like this set up can potentially dump very large quantities of snow,simply because of intensity and as you say the warm air,cold air battleground scenario.

Very interesting indeed.

wonder has there been similar events/charts before which gave us surprise snow? don't think us down south will benefit again - we'd never be that lucky twice in three days for heavy snow. slight thaw ongoing here but cloudy - will take the predicted rain tonight to wash away our snow.

dfbemt

Yes, big thaw on and all the excitement of the past few weeks is dying down. I for one think that I have found a new hobby and will certainly be checking in regularly. Thanks to all the excellent posters and forecasters for an interesting month give or take. Apart from all the link to weather related sites picked up during the time the best is the airline tracking one - like watching the world go by.

http://www.radarvirtuel.com/

Reason for posting - have noticed that the ground is saturated in parts. Parts of my garden that never held water have puddles on the surface. Was wondering is this down to the amount of water appearing after the thaw or is the ground below the surface still frozen and hampering drainage?

Thaw bad = no more snow. Was great while it lasted
Thaw good = can start sorting out veg patch in few days for Spring planting

jcarr

fuelinjection wrote: »

Oh God the world is too dangerous to live in. Stay in bed. Never go out.

1./ It's good to warn people about extreme events like we had last week.

2./ Wise up, temps are back to normal and you need to find another hobby or obsession until extreme weather is back again. Yes slippy roads are bad, yes too much rain is bad, but really how do you think your ancestors existed and managed to have kids.

Either somebody pissed in your cornflakes or perhaps you are slightly confused????
This is the WEATHER Forum for discussing WEATHER

Perhaps the charter might explain it a little better for you, read the charter if you're still confused.....


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055224536

Min

Cork and Kerry are being put on flood alert, possibly Waterford.

maquiladora

Met Eireann have a weather warning out for this now...

Weather Warning

Issued at 11 January 2010 - 13:25
Weather Alert

Cold tonight with frost and some icy patches. The patchy sleet and snow over Ulster dying out later also.

Very windy later tonight and tomorrow, with heavy rain pushing up from the southwest during the day, preceded by sleet and snow for a time.

Some flooding likely, from heavy rain and snow melt, with Munster and parts of Leinster most at risk.

munsterlegend

maquiladora wrote: »

Met Eireann have a weather warning out for this now...

that rain looks very intense on the radars - thats all we need another bout of flooding. lot of snow to melt here yet - fog is preventing the sun from appearing. hopefully it won't be as bad as predicted.

maquiladora

Road safety alert

Monday, January 11th, 2010

The Road Safety Authority (RSA) has issued a road safety alert to road users in Counties Kerry, Cork, Wexford and Waterford as Met Eireann warns of Gale-force winds and heavy rain fall over the next 24 hours.

This forecast combined with melting snow and ice will make the roads very treacherous.

Met Eireann has forecast heavy rain developing later tonight and continuing through much of Tuesday. Strong to gale force southeast to east winds too, with gale to strong gale force winds on the coasts. Up to 40 to 55 mm of rainfall is expected.

http://www.hgvireland.com/01/11/road-safety-alert/

Our man in Havana

I for one welcome the rain with open arms.

maquiladora

Bond-007 wrote: »

I for one welcome the rain with open arms.

munsterlegend

Bond-007 wrote: »

I for one welcome the rain with open arms.

yeah i am beginning to think the same myself. we got our snow event yesterday which is unlikely to materialise again for a long while so i can't complain.

maquiladora

12Z GFS has increased the intensity of the wind for tomorrow morning a bit, southwest coastal areas getting the strongest winds. No change in precipitation forecast really.

Conor108

But about the BBC forecasting heavy snow for dublin? right? wrong? perhaps?

munsterlegend

maquiladora wrote: »

12Z GFS has increased the intensity of the wind for tomorrow morning a bit, southwest coastal areas getting the strongest winds. No change in precipitation forecast really.

what strength winds will there be and what time should we expect the rain? word earlier was that it will be very heavy rain per MT.

Bicycle

Here's another thanks from a lurker, who really appreciated both the good nature of the posters here and the accurate forecasting.

Having just had my car ambushed by a crowd of middle-class thugs here in Limerick, throwing stones embedded in snowballs and then jeering at me when I stopped my car, I too and relieved that we're coming to the end of this cold spell.

Any one know if there will be a long spell of warm sunny weather from the 23rd June?

maquiladora

munsterlegend wrote: »

what strength winds will there be and what time should we expect the rain? word earlier was that it will be very heavy rain per MT.

Road Safety Authority warning says up to 55mm of rain. The rain will probably start to move into the soutwest after midnight, strongest rain arriving after dawn and not clearing till after dark tomorrow. Gusts of 80-100kmph in southwest.

munsterlegend

maquiladora wrote: »

Road Safety Authority warning says up to 55mm of rain. The rain will probably start to move into the soutwest after midnight, strongest rain arriving after dawn and not clearing till after dark tomorrow. Gusts of 80-100kmph in southwest.

thanks Maq. that is a lot of rain - don't want floods after all the recent problems.

damoz

munsterlegend wrote: »

thanks Maq. that is a lot of rain - don't want floods after all the recent problems.

silver linings :

1. it will clean/wash all the grit off the roads.. (hopefully not just deposit more !)
2. people can stop driving at 15mph on perfectly fine roads just because the fields are white... !

its monday - im trying to be positive

MayoForSam

damoz wrote: »

2. people can stop driving at 15mph on perfectly fine roads just because the fields are white... !

+1 - my biggest gripe of the cold spell. Slow traffic adding an extra 30 minutes each way to my daily commute :rolleyes:. Main roads have been treated people!

And as we got barely a dusting of snow during the entire 3 weeks, good riddance I say! Bring back the rain and the wind (but not too much) which we are well used to.

Hows the jet stream looking - so long as it stays well to the south, it should drag most of the Atlantic weather systems down there too?

Min

I still think some will get a lot of snow tomorrow.

200motels

Conor108 wrote: »

But about the BBC forecasting heavy snow for Dublin? right? wrong? perhaps?

No chance, those BBC forecasts are automated, very unreliable.

jenzz

Min wrote: »

I still think some will get a lot of snow tomorrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10209

BBC still forecasting snow for tomorrow morn/afternoon through central/ Eastern parts

Ahh I see above - Automated -explains...... Thanks 200

200motels

jenzz wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10209

BBC still forecasting snow for tomorrow morn/afternoon through central/ Eastern parts

Ahh I see above - Automated -explains...... Thanks 200

No problem. even tho I hope you do get snow, interesting weather ahead.

Conor108

200motels wrote: »

No chance, those BBC forecasts are automated, very unreliable.

Oh well, school it is so:(

homolumo

in the absence of the temp increase would heavy snow have been on the menu for most parts?

damoz

homolumo wrote: »

in the absence of the temp increase would heavy snow have been on the menu for most parts?

absolutely... but then again in the absence of rain we might have had a summer last year.

jenzz

200motels wrote: »

No problem. even tho I hope you do get snow, interesting weather ahead.

Interesting weather?? - Go on - Expand - Make my day !!!:D:D:D

Supercell

Bring on the rain, enough is enough I say!
My boss didnt really believe me when i told him I still have a foot of snow when there is none down in coastal Dublin. Its snow joke anymore!

200motels

jenzz wrote: »

Interesting weather?? - Go on - Expand - Make my day !!!:D:D:D

Well a lot of that will fall as snow initially, but will turn to rain quickly, but if you live high up or up north you'll get a lot of snow. But it will all eventually turn to rain as the milder air digs in. That's my opinion, I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

munsterlegend

Supercell wrote: »

Bring on the rain, enough is enough I say!
My boss didnt really believe me when i told him I still have a foot of snow when there is none down in coastal Dublin. Its snow joke anymore!

you must be good at your job that he keeps you on despite all the snow days!