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Big Freeze Discussion [Happy New Year]
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Nope actually, all we got in donegal was hail and sleet all night that froze, wheres all this snow that was predicted. Things change i guess
well all i have here is a slushy mess and inland in garvagh it is snowing...... so irritating. i wish this trough missed here so we could keep are 1cm of snow and have a nice ice day but no we have slush and a 1c day! The rain is ment to turn to snow now apparently but it is still raining here temps are also ment to drop but are still rising 90c every second here lol0 -
Who? No radio or TV here.
Chance would be a fine thing:)
Anyways, we had a long power cut this morning, and then when I took the dogs out, sweet rain and milder.
A lot of the snow has come off the roof too.
The cold in the night was shocking.
It hurt to breathe.
That has eased a wee bit now.Come down from the mountain katy daly
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Temp is currently -2oC here in North Dublin (near Port Tunnel exit); 3cm of lying snow on the ground that has not melted and has actually frozen, proper powdery snow lying above the frozen snow!
It remains bitter cold now with a "feels like" wind chill of -8oC; I love proper cold weather like this but can't believe how long this spell has endured! (since around the 18th Dec?)
And it looks like there could be more snow next week? Thanks guys for posting the charts (even though I don't know what they say!)
On the downside, it makes it very difficult to travel. Roads around Edenmore / Artane / Coolock were treacherous yesterday with cars turning sideways on the ice.
Everyone should enjoy the cold spell however there is a serious side to it and we all just have to be very careful when travelling.
Take care,
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Good Morning everyone. Some astonishingly cold outputs on pretty much all models overnight. The freezing weather is set to continue for the forseeable future and the risk of snow will increase from tomorrow especially for the North and then the East with significant falls likely at times next week. The roads will remain difficult throughout.
No sign of any increase in temperatures for the next 9 days at least. In fact it looks like getting worse.
Indeed Darkman 2
Later next week looks potentially to offer even more extreme cold, with a renewed Easterly push across the country.
The latest 06Z GEFS Ensembles all the way out to T+180 keep the Ensemble Mean - 850mb Temperatures - for Eastern areas in particular down to -9. Thats just over a week from now - which is remarkably prolonged.
I think we can express 75% confidence in severe cold persisting until Day 5, with a solid 60% confidence out to Day 7.
Interesting also now that Met Eireann are mentioning more widespread snowfall in their online update.
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Two fax synoptic charts for Monday and Tuesday
Monday night
That should be a pretty weak affair but for windward coasts in the Northern half of the country snow is likely. Winds veer more Northeastly directly behind the front.
Tuesday
Here is the potential for disruption in the North and East and other places too. The sun is not strong enough to enable any significant inland convection at this time of year. The land does not hold moisture very well so many places could stay dry inland and in the Southwest but for exposed coasts like the Northeast, East and Southeast it's a different story. This will be interesting to watch develope.
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Northern Ireland is under the influence of above-zero dewpoints this morning, as the northwesterly winds bring in maritime air. Aldergrove reportied a sleet shower in the last hour. Temperatures/dewpoints are
Aldergrove +1/+1
Belfast City +2/?
Eglington +3/+2
Donegal Airport +4/+2
The models have picked up on this rise in dewpoints but show them fall again around mid afternoon as the wind veers to northeasterly. But with ridging taking place from the north, and no upper support for convective activity, I don't see any wintry precipitation anywhere in Ireland, except possibly the southeast coast, within the next 24 hours
Ok so when the wind veers north easterly the dp should lower!:D Should they stay like this is this the last mild part of the spell?
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nacho libre wrote: »so basicially once it becomes cold enough again the air is too dry. at the moment there is the moisture in the air but of course conditions have become too marginal - even though we are in a severe cold spell, conditions still can go the wrong side of marginal. by the way i'm not sniping at you just ranting to release my frustration. although i should know better at this stage considering we are an island surrounded by warm seas:)
Hmm, that seems to be the way it's looking I'm afraid. Though I was wrong about the showers developing near the Isle of Mann last night, so let's hope I'm wrong again this time!
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Looks like the midlands snow shield will hold where I am at least, as it has done since this began - cannot see much wintry precip. from nexts weeks charts for anywhere inland and away from the eastern coastal margins.
Having said all that, day to day variations,which cannot be forecast at this point, may change the way things go on the snow front. But it certainly will be cold. Please keep an eye on those people who might be vulnerable during this - and don't forget our feathered friends!
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force eleven wrote: »Looks like the midlands snow shield will hold where I am at least, as it has done since this began - cannot see much wintry precip. from nexts weeks charts for anywhere inland and away from the eastern coastal margins.
Having said all that, day to day variations,which cannot be forecast at this point, may change the way things go on the snow front. But it certainly will be cold. Please keep an eye on those people who might be vulnerable during this - and don't forget our feathered friends!
yeah, if the northeasterly airflow is potent you will eventually see some snow showers make it as far as the midlands. although they will likely be light in nature. if, as is likely, this easterly or northeasterly persists there is a chance at some stage a feature(which the forecaster and models might not pick up on) will spread across the country, again though the heaveist stuff would likely be in the east. if this happens i hope you being snow starved don't take it all for yourself and we further west end up with patchy clouds overhead :mad: 0 -
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The answer is nobody knows but it's best not to ask too many questions all the time.Ok so when the wind veers north easterly the dp should lower!:D Should they stay like this is this the last mild part of the spell?
We can't give you real time updates for colraine-some of us have work to do
I will tell you this,the flow is continuing from polar regions.
Currently it's got a tiny bit of modification in it from the north west but look at the fax charts posted there.
Cold front after cold front after cold front marching down.
Behind every cold front is colder air again and so on.
As long as that continues,you're going to get back to freezing conditions where you are eventually and hopefully snow.
So relax-read and enjoy the technical posts here and use google as your friend to help you lear.
Meanwhile I'm not answering any more of your questions because I feel the answers are already given in several posts here without you even needing to ask them 0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »The answer is nobody knows but it's best not to ask too many questions all the time.
We can't give you real time updates for colraine-some of us have work to do
I will tell you this,the flow is continuing from polar regions.
Currently it's got a tiny bit of modification in it from the north west but look at the fax charts posted there.
Cold front after cold front after cold front marching down.
Indeed.
Some interesting commutes through next week.
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Temperature +6, dewpoint +2, I'm not surprised. :rolleyes:
The approach of the warm air was quite dramatic actually. Woke up to hard frost, white everywhere and the three kernels of sleet we got yesterday evening still perfectly preserved and crunchy underfoot. And then it just got warm all of a sudden and very quickly. Trees started to drip off their frost, while the ground was still frozen rock hard. That shower now has thawed everything, but if the cold returns as quickly as it went, then things could get very dangerous. Only the top one cm of ground is thawed, everything is dripping wet on top ...a quick drop in temps and Sligo will crunch to a halt in a crust of ice
(won't happen though ...I just bought a bag of urea to thaw my driveway (just in case) and once I do something like that, the scenario never materialises ...ever since we bought a parasol we haven't had a summer) 0 -
That band of precip off east NI is on the met's rainfall radar too.
Will it not pump eastwards in the W/NW wind?
If it did brush the east coast is it likely to be rain? Or..?
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