The "live as it happens" Budget comment thread....

RandolphEsq

Tawny wrote: »

Who is that talking now?

Moan Burton

Heisenberg.

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Delta Kilo

What happened to Car Tax and College registration fees?

TouchingVirus

MOH wrote: »

RTE aren't helping

This certainly doesn't seem to be the case for JSB, it applies to JSA only.

The dole is JSA, not JSB ... people should know this.

I agree using "the dole" isn't helping.

Rb

Thaedydal wrote: »

Joan Burton on how "Nama killed santa claus" for families and that with lowering the cost of drink and cars it's lads budget Jermry clarkson would like.

:rolleyes:

Good ol' Burton trying to get a soundbite. I'm just glad she's put behind Richard Bruton in the line to speak, I wouldn't like to have to sit through her moaning drivel to hear a decent speech.

jezza

dvpower wrote: »

Nonsense. How have old people paid their due?
They are the single biggest winners in the property boom, which was a massive transfer of wealth from the young to the old.

Excuse me?
Old people on pensions, are over the age of 66. This would make the youngest of them born in 1943. Im sure everything wasnt all sunshine and roses. They built our country into what it is now. They worked all their lives, they paid taxes all their lives. They are the most vulnerable of society. They dont have the option of getting up and getting a job, part-time nixers, if they want a little bit extra.

It was their tax - their contributions to society, the past 46 odd years, that prospered the country.

Tim Robbins

tudlytops wrote: »

Agree this cuts should affect people claiming for say 6 month's or more, not the ones that just got made unemployed.

David begg is a clown. If the Unions only focussed on making sure that those on low pay didn't get cut, they would have got that. Instead they went for the unrealistic goal of making sure none of them got cut.

Unions all on for an equitable society? Me hole. What do you earn again Mr. Begg? How about you take a wage now to show some empathy with those you claim to represent!

waffleman

This budget is a steaming pile of dog turd

those public sector pay cut %s should be doubled at least

dole should have been halfed across the board

VAT should be 15%

a boiler scrappage scheme would have been far better than a car scrappage scheme

good luck Lenihan you D grade maths student - I'm off to the North to purchase all my Christmas goodies

MOH

Breaktown wrote: »

Is it 4.1% or €8 though? (Not the same for me since JSA is means tested and I'm on a LOT less than the maximum amount). I've seen both written on different parts of the RTE and budget websites.

RTE seem to be talking crap.

Form the budget.gov.ie document, it's a reduction of between 8.20 and 8.50, but "proportionate decreases will apply in respect of people on reduced rates of payment"

So presumably if you're in half the max, the reduction is 4.10 to 4.25

damoz

PrideandLuna wrote: »

Hi I'm on a three day week and am currently getting €102p/w jobseekers benefit will i be cut to €75 p/w? I'm 23 and have a mortgage to pay....

And we wonder why the country is in a mess. Were you stress tested for that mortgage at 23 on the dole?!!!! wtf

markesmith

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Wow - a whole 50c!

It's a nominal charge. Apparently a lot of people were going in and getting their prescription months and years after. They didn't need it anymore, just kept getting it *because it was free*.

The nominal charge might put a stop to a lot of that. Big drain on the health sector. Really good idea, IMO. Surprised Harney came up with it.

Jamie-b

Still don't understand- job seekers not cut but the dole is ... I thought they were the same thing?? If I lose my job, ages 24, what would I get?

Rb

PrideandLuna wrote: »

Hi I'm on a three day week and am currently getting €102p/w jobseekers benefit will i be cut to €75 p/w? I'm 23 and have a mortgage to pay....

If you're on the "casual system" whereby you hand in your slips, you should be absolutely fine.

Bagmagnet

In relation to Jobseekers Allowance:

Can anyone tell me what a Qualified Adult is? In the online budget summary:

The Qualified Adult rate applicable to Jobseeker’s Allowance/basic Supplementary Welfare Allowance applicants aged 20 and 21 will also be €100 per week and for those applicants aged 22, 23 and 24 will be €130.10 per week.

Could this mean that someone who is 23 and already receiving €204 per week will now receive €130.10 per week??

jos28

LookingFor wrote: »

Anyway, this whole carbon tax thing...what's it going to be used for?

Is it going into the general kitty or is it going to be used to offset emissions on carbon markets or the like?

If it's not actually going to be used for environmental initiatives then - surprise surprise - it's just another tax under a 'nicer' name.

Gormley is going to use it for his national frog count
http://www.politics.ie/green-party/120113-gormley-spend-120k-counting-frogs.html

Flamed Diving

PrideandLuna wrote: »

Hi I'm on a three day week and am currently getting €102p/w jobseekers benefit will i be cut to €75 p/w? I'm 23 and have a mortgage to pay....

Quite young to be owning a house...

P. Breathnach

nesf wrote: »

Pensions will be dealt with in the 2011 budget with the changes being examined over the next year. That's what I got out of it anyway.

In other words, kicked to touch.

[The economy will have recovered by then.]

TouchingVirus

Delta Kilo wrote: »

What happened to Car Tax and College registration fees?

No mention of college registration fees ..reduction in grants though.

Nothing about motor tax either.

lynchie

nkay1985 wrote: »

Just a quick look online seems to indicate that €15 per tonne carbon tax equates to 3.75 cents per litre of unleaded petrol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax

According to Annex E of the Budget.

Petrol going up 4.2c or 3.5%
Diesel going up 4.9c or 4.4%

Tawny

TouchingVirus wrote: »

4.1%, works out at €8.xx for the top max rate.



Joan Burton, the voice would drive you to madness.

LOL thanks.

I am never voting Labour if she is a typical example.

Oh god....... she made a 'joke'!

efb

People usually have more than one item on perscription.

dubmick

efb wrote: »

PS lower paid starts at €24K
PR SEC starts at 19K

24K is alot for filling forms

That is insulting and a generalisation on your behalf.

LookingFor

damoz wrote: »

And we wonder why the country is in a mess. Were you stress tested for that mortgage at 23 on the dole?!!!! wtf

Seriously. Sorry Pride, but that's just a perfect little encapsulation of all that went wrong here in the last 5 or so years.

I dread to ask how much your mortgage was for...

tudlytops

PrideandLuna wrote: »

Hi I'm on a three day week and am currently getting €102p/w jobseekers benefit will i be cut to €75 p/w? I'm 23 and have a mortgage to pay....

No, what i got from the buget is that it is only for new claims, so you're ok

Cannibal Ox

Listening to Dermot Ahern. Where/Who/Why have they decided to push this idea that we became "uncompetitive during the boom". Have I been hit on the head? Did I not spend the past ten years listening to Fianna Fail tell me that Ireland is one of the most competitive economies on the planet?

Side note, poor Joan Burton.

newbie85

I tell you what has driven me mad about this budget, they're willing to cut the pay of the front line staff such as nurses and guards, yet have decided to make it cheaper for the drunks who these people have to deal with abuse from and who clog up the a and e!! Not to mention cause carnage and heartache on the roads!!
Idiots the lot of them!!

RandolphEsq

Joan is hilarious!

Jermey Clarkson, Tiger Woods' infidelities, kissing babies, dessert metaphors!

mailforkev

Christ on a bike, Joan Burton is painful going.

Archie78

Can I ask if the budget has changed any Paye / PRSI or standard cut off changes in this budget , i didnt hear him mention it ?

cb123

Independant.ie:

Social Welfare payments: New applicant’s rates of job seeker allowance for those 20-21 years of age will be reduced to €100 per week and for those 22-24 years of age to €150 per week

Will this effect people who are already on the jobseekers, it says "new applicants", Ive just gone 20 and have been on €100 for the past month, i just got my first payment of €204, Im fine with my social being cut and i understand why there doing it but i cant go back to not surviving on €100 do you think will they be cutting people already on it? Im confused and worried