The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

helimachoptor

Not impressed.. But then again I was expecting the ones that were leaked a while ago!

Could have really changed things up Nike, opportunity list IMO

JohnnyRyan99

helimachoptor wrote: »

Could have really changed things up Nike, opportunity list IMO

I like you was hoping for a small bit of an overall, but I wonder how strictly they were told to stay close to the original design by the teams owners!

With the Jets jersey I wouldn't be looking to go out and buy the new one immediately simply because it's so similar, if they had of mixed it up a bit surely it would have been better for sales!

kmart6

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Disappointed because I thought there'd be sweeping changes. But I'm glad they stuck to the Patriots one.

It's been known for months that there was going to be no radical changes!!

On a side note that had to have been a bitch of a photoshot to organise, needing to get 32 players that were going to be with their teams!

helimachoptor

Well the reason why I thought they'd be quite a bit different was to prompt people to buy them.. It seems Nike doesn't need the money!

kmart6

People will still buy them! Trades/Draft dictate that! Majority of Colts fans are going to need new jerseys after the clear out! Tebow,Manning,Luck and RG3 jerseys will fly out!

Nike want the association with the NFL, they know they'll cover what it's costing them...easily!

Chardee MacDennis

helimachoptor wrote: »

Well the reason why I thought they'd be quite a bit different was to prompt people to buy them.. It seems Nike doesn't need the money!

If a teams changes it's jersey, it cant make another change for 5 years. Some teams will apparently make changes next year according to ESPN.

helimachoptor

BastardPrince wrote: »

If a teams changes it's jersey, it cant make another change for 5 years. Some teams will apparently make changes next year according to ESPN.

Ah didnt realise that, thanks BP

Chardee MacDennis

Preseason schedule is (partially) out http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82815357/article/cardinalssaints-game-set-to-kick-off-2012-preseason-schedule?module=HP11_headline_stack

FreeOSCAR

Apparently this is a leaked NFL Schedule. Probably not but interesting to look at all the same.

Primetime games are bolded.

The full unofficial NFL Schedule is as follows:
Week 1 Wednesday 9/5/2012 Cowboys @ Giants NBC 8:30 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Redskins @ Eagles FOX 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Saints @ Panthers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Cardinals @ Falcons FOX 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Seahawks @ Bills FOX 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Dolphins @ Jets CBS 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Colts @ Jaguars CBS 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Bengals @ Browns CBS 1:00 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Bears @ Titans FOX 4:05 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Vikings @ Rams FOX 4:05 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 49ers @ Patriots FOX 4:05 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Steelers @ Ravens CBS 4:15 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Chiefs @ Chargers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 1 Sunday 9/9/2012 Texans @ Broncos NBC 8:20 PM
Week 1 Monday 9/10/2012 Packers @ Lions ESPN 7:00 PM
Week 1 Monday 9/10/2012 Buccaneers @ Raiders ESPN 10:15 PM

Week 2 Thursday 9/13/2012 Broncos @ Chargers NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Eagles @ Saints FOX 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Lions @ Jaguars FOX 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Buccaneers @ Panthers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Vikings @ Colts FOX 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Rams @ Dolphins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Browns @ Giants CBS 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Raiders @ Falcons CBS 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Steelers @ Titans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Bears @ 49ers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Packers @ Texans FOX 4:05 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Cowboys @ Seahawks FOX 4:05 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Bills @ Cardinals CBS 4:15 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Ravens @ Chiefs CBS 4:15 PM
Week 2 Sunday 9/16/2012 Jets @ Patriots NBC 8:20 PM
Week 2 Monday 9/17/2012 Bengals @ Redskins ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 3 Thursday 9/20/2012 Rams @ Bears NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Giants @ Falcons FOX 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Panthers @ Chiefs FOX 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Chargers @ Buccaneers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Jaguars @ Packers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Ravens @ Redskins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Patriots @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Bills @ Jets CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Bengals @ Eagles CBS 1:00 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Saints @ Raiders FOX 4:05 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Cardinals @ 49ers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Colts @ Texans CBS 4:15 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Steelers @ Broncos CBS 4:15 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Browns @ Cowboys CBS 4:15 PM
Week 3 Sunday 9/23/2012 Seahawks @ Lions NBC 8:20 PM
Week 3 Monday 9/24/2012 Titans @ Vikings ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 4 Thursday 9/27/2012 Ravens @ Browns NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Eagles @ Giants FOX 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Packers @ Colts FOX 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Lions @ Titans FOX 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Bears @ Jaguars FOX 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Cardinals @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Raiders @ Panthers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Dolphins @ Bengals CBS 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Chiefs @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 49ers @ Seahawks FOX 4:05 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Buccaneers @ Broncos FOX 4:05 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Jets @ Rams CBS 4:15 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Texans @ Patriots CBS 4:15 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Chargers @ Steelers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 4 Sunday 9/30/2012 Redskins @ Cowboys NBC 8:20 PM
Week 4 Monday 10/1/2012 Falcons @ Saints ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 5 Thursday 10/4/2012 Dolphins @ Colts NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Redskins @ Giants FOX 1:00 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Falcons @ Eagles FOX 1:00 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Buccaneers @ Cowboys FOX 1:00 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Vikings @ Bears FOX 1:00 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Titans @ Texans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 49ers @ Rams FOX 4:05 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Cardinals @ Packers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Steelers @ Raiders CBS 4:15 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Patriots @ Seahawks CBS 4:15 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Browns @ Broncos CBS 4:15 PM
Week 5 Sunday 10/7/2012 Bengals @ Ravens NBC 8:20 PM
Week 5 Monday 10/8/2012 Panthers @ Chargers ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE: Chiefs, Jaguars, Jets, Lions, Saints, Bills

Week 6 Thursday 10/11/2012 Eagles @ Redskins NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Cowboys @ Falcons FOX 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Buccaneers @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Jets @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Texans @ Jaguars CBS 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Colts @ Titans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Raiders @ Ravens CBS 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Chargers @ Browns CBS 1:00 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Lions @ 49ers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Rams @ Cardinals FOX 4:05 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Steelers @ Bengals CBS 4:15 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Broncos @ Chiefs CBS 4:15 PM
Week 6 Sunday 10/14/2012 Saints @ Packers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 6 Monday 10/15/2012 Bills @ Patriots ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE Panthers, Bears, Seahawks, Giants

Week 7 Thursday 10/18/2012 Vikings @ Packers NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Redskins @ Browns FOX 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Falcons @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Rams @ Lions FOX 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Bills @ Colts CBS 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Dolphins @ Patriots CBS 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Titans @ Jaguars CBS 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Chiefs @ Steelers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Cardinals @ Jets FOX 4:05 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Seahawks @ Panthers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Chargers @ Saints CBS 4:15 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Raiders @ Broncos CBS 4:15 PM
Week 7 Sunday 10/21/2012 Giants @ 49ers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 7 Monday 10/22/2012 Bears @ Cowboys ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE Eagles, Texans, Ravens, Bengals

Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Giants @ Bengals FOX 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Redskins @ Saints FOX 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Panthers @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Bears @ Lions FOX 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Patriots @ Rams CBS 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Titans @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Jaguars @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Browns @ Steelers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 49ers @ Cardinals FOX 4:05 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Jets @ Seahawks CBS 4:15 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Chiefs @ Raiders CBS 4:15 PM
Week 8 Sunday 10/28/2012 Eagles @ Cowboys NBC 8:20 PM
Week 8 Monday 10/29/2012 Ravens @ Texans ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE Broncos, Chargers, Colts, Vikings, Packers

Week 9 Thursday 11/1/2012 Seahawks @ Cardinals NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Cowboys @ Ravens FOX 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Falcons @ Lions FOX 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Bears @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Dolphins @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Texans @ Colts CBS 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Titans @ Packers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Bengals @ Jaguars CBS 1:00 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Saints @ Giants FOX 4:05 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Broncos @ Panthers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Chargers @ Chiefs CBS 4:15 PM
Week 9 Sunday 11/4/2012 Jets @ Steelers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 9 Monday 11/5/2012 Eagles @ Browns ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE Raiders, Patriots, Rams, Bucs, Redskins

Week 10 Thursday 11/8/2012 Bills @ 49ers NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Redskins @ Rams FOX 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Falcons @ Chiefs FOX 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Buccaneers @ Saints FOX 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Lions @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Jaguars @ Texans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Broncos @ Bengals CBS 1:00 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Giants @ Eagles FOX 4:05 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Panthers @ Bears FOX 4:05 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Patriots @ Ravens CBS 4:15 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Raiders @ Chargers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 10 Sunday 11/11/2012 Packers @ Seahawks NBC 8:20 PM
Week 10 Monday 11/12/2012 Colts @ Jets ESPN 8:30 PM
BYE Browns, Steelers, Titans, Dolphins, Cardinals, Cowboys

Week 11 Thursday 11/15/2012 Raiders @ Bengals NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Eagles @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Cowboys @ Redskins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Saints @ Falcons FOX 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Patriots @ Jaguars CBS 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Chargers @ Jets CBS 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Bills @ Browns CBS 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Texans @ Bears CBS 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Titans @ Colts CBS 1:00 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Lions @ Cardinals FOX 4:05 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Vikings @ Seahawks FOX 4:05 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Chiefs @ Broncos CBS 4:15 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Dolphins @ 49ers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Ravens @ Steelers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 11 Sunday 11/18/2012 Giants @ Panthers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 11 Monday 11/19/2012 Packers @ Rams ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 12 Thursday 11/22/2012 Texans @ Lions CBS 12:30 PM
Week 12 Thursday 11/22/2012 Saints @ Cowboys FOX 4:15 PM
Week 12 Thursday 11/22/2012 Patriots @ Titans NBC 8:20 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Falcons @ Redskins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Panthers @ Eagles FOX 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 49ers @ Jets FOX 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Rams @ Bills FOX 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Jaguars @ Vikings CBS 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Steelers @ Browns CBS 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Raiders @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Bears @ Packers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Cardinals @ Seahawks FOX 4:05 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Colts @ Chiefs CBS 4:15 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Bengals @ Chargers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 12 Sunday 11/25/2012 Broncos @ Ravens NBC 8:20 PM
Week 12 Monday 11/26/2012 Buccaneers @ Giants ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 13 Thursday 11/29/2012 Panthers @ Falcons NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Redskins @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Lions @ Eagles FOX 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 49ers @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Jets @ Titans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Bills @ Texans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Steelers @ Cowboys CBS 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Browns @ Bengals CBS 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Chiefs @ Saints CBS 1:00 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Packers @ Giants FOX 4:05 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Seahawks @ Rams FOX 4:05 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Jaguars @ Raiders CBS 4:15 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Ravens @ Chargers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Broncos @ Patriots CBS 4:15 PM
Week 13 Sunday 12/2/2012 Colts @ Bears NBC 8:20 PM
Week 13 Monday 12/3/2012 Dolphins @ Cardinals ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 14 Thursday 12/6/2012 Jets @ Jaguars NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Giants @ Ravens FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Eagles @ Cardinals FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Redskins @ Steelers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Vikings @ Texans FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Seahawks @ Dolphins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Rams @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Titans @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Colts @ Patriots CBS 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Bengals @ Chiefs CBS 1:00 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Cowboys @ Panthers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Saints @ Broncos FOX 4:05 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 49ers @ Packers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Browns @ Raiders CBS 4:15 PM
Week 14 Sunday 12/9/2012 Falcons @ Chargers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 14 Monday 12/10/2012 Lions @ Bears ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 15 Thursday 12/13/2012 Chiefs @ Buccaneers NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Panthers @ Saints FOX 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Lions @ Packers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Vikings @ Redskins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Cardinals @ Patriots FOX 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Jets @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Dolphins @ Texans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Ravens @ Bengals CBS 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Browns @ Colts CBS 1:00 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Giants @ Cowboys FOX 4:05 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Rams @ 49ers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Seahawks @ Bears FOX 4:05 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Broncos @ Falcons CBS 4:15 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Chargers @ Raiders CBS 4:15 PM
Week 15 Sunday 12/16/2012 Eagles @ Steelers NBC 8:20 PM
Week 15 Monday 12/17/2012 Jaguars @ Titans ESPN 8:30 PM

Week 16 Thursday 12/20/2012 Steelers @ Giants NFLN 8:20 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Cowboys @ Bengals FOX 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Panthers @ Redskins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Buccaneers @ Falcons FOX 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Packers @ Vikings FOX 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Colts @ Lions CBS 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Patriots @ Bills CBS 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Jaguars @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Texans @ Jets CBS 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Chiefs @ Browns CBS 1:00 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Rams @ Seahawks FOX 4:05 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Bears @ Cardinals FOX 4:05 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Titans @ Chargers CBS 4:15 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 Ravens @ Eagles CBS 4:15 PM
Week 16 Sunday 12/23/2012 49ers @ Saints NBC 8:20 PM
Week 16 Monday 12/24/2012 Broncos @ Raiders ESPN 8:00 PM

Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Giants @ Redskins FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Cowboys @ Eagles FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Saints @ Buccaneers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Falcons @ Panthers FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Packers @ Bears FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Vikings @ Lions FOX 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Patriots @ Jets CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Bills @ Dolphins CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Texans @ Titans CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Jaguars @ Colts CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Bengals @ Steelers CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Browns @ Ravens CBS 1:00 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Cardinals @ Rams FOX 4:05 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Seahawks @ 49ers FOX 4:05 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Chargers @ Broncos CBS 4:15 PM
Week 17 Sunday 12/30/2012 Raiders @ Chiefs CBS 4:15 PM

HigginsJ

Quarterback Rankings heading into the new season. Only one mans opinion but really hard to argue with who he has Number 1!!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8281b796/article/quarterback-rankings-eli-manning-tops-list-heading-into-2012?module=HP11_content_stream

nerd69

HigginsJ wrote: »

Quarterback Rankings heading into the new season. Only one mans opinion but really hard to argue with who he has Number 1!!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8281b796/article/quarterback-rankings-eli-manning-tops-list-heading-into-2012?module=HP11_content_stream

giants fan?;)
to be honest if there was a draft taken tomorow rogers and brady would be ahead of him easy
on top of that why is everyone calling eli a hof qb all of a sudden big ben won 2 sbs in 3 years and he didnt get half the credit
sorry giants fans but its the new york hype (see jeremy lin) he is good and probably top 5 but not number 1

Dohnny Jepp

I think I disagree with everything on that list.

HigginsJ

nerd69 wrote: »

giants fan?;)
to be honest if there was a draft taken tomorow rogers and brady would be ahead of him easy
on top of that why is everyone calling eli a hof qb all of a sudden big ben won 2 sbs in 3 years and he didnt get half the credit
sorry giants fans but its the new york hype (see jeremy lin) he is good and probably top 5 but not number 1

of course.

Yea i'd agree. Eli def not number 1. Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Manning, Brees.

I guess big Ben gets very little credit as he was awful in the SB against the Seahawks.

I also think Newton and Ryan are too high and Stafford is too low. Apart from that you'd say its fairly spot on.

HigginsJ

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I think I disagree with everything on that list.

why?

nerd69

HigginsJ wrote: »

of course.

Yea i'd agree. Eli def not number 1. Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Manning, Brees.

I guess big Ben gets very little credit as he was awful in the SB against the Seahawks.

I also think Newton and Ryan are too high and Stafford is too low. Apart from that you'd say its fairly spot on.

i would say the elite are brady, brees, rodgers are in a league of there own (payton to if he can come back ok.

the very good:eli, big ben, vick, stafford,rivers, ryan and newton(only one season i know but it was a very good season)

and the good are: schaub, freeman , bradford, romo, dalton, cutler, smith and tebow (cat ever see him winning a sb but he wins games and that counts for something)

with reguards to big ben he didnt play great against the seahawks but eli has been very average and sometimes just terrible in the regular season in my opinion and big ben had an absoulutley terrible o-line at the time i still consider him better than eli.

all this is just my opinion of coarse:D

mayordenis

nerd69 wrote: »

giants fan?;)
to be honest if there was a draft taken tomorow rogers and brady would be ahead of him easy
on top of that why is everyone calling eli a hof qb all of a sudden big ben won 2 sbs in 3 years and he didnt get half the credit
sorry giants fans but its the new york hype (see jeremy lin) he is good and probably top 5 but not number 1

I'd liken it more to Steven Gerrard, biggest moments and best play comes on the top stage, but everyone knows there's better more consistent performers out there, I don't think simply sweeping it under the carpet and saying it's a new york thing is really fair.

nerd69

mayordenis wrote: »

I'd liken it more to Steven Gerrard, biggest moments and best play comes on the top stage, but everyone knows there's better more consistent performers out there, I don't think simply sweeping it under the carpet and saying it's a new york thing is really fair.

i do think hes a good player and has been elite in the playoffs but hes been shocking in the regular season most years he is a good player all in all and most teams would want him but to rank him 1 in the nfl is silly and people discussing weather hes better than peyton is just insulting.
new york athletes have always been built up again its just my opinion and i do think hes good just not as good as people think

HigginsJ

nerd69 wrote: »

i do think hes a good player and has been elite in the playoffs but hes been shocking in the regular season most years he is a good player all in all and most teams would want him but to rank him 1 in the nfl is silly and people discussing weather hes better than peyton is just insulting.
new york athletes have always been built up again its just my opinion and i do think hes good just not as good as people think

Agreed you cant rank him number 1 until his regular season play matches his post season play. Bit to be fair this year he had no running game for most of the season and the O-line was mix and match for most the season.

He is 4th in my opinion and as a Giants fan i wouldnt swap him for any QB. Eli is just so calm and relaxed nothing gets to him. The perfect New York QB.

nerd69

HigginsJ wrote: »

Agreed you cant rank him number 1 until his regular season play matches his post season play. Bit to be fair this year he had no running game for most of the season and the O-line was mix and match for most the season.

He is 4th in my opinion and as a Giants fan i wouldnt swap him for any QB. Eli is just so calm and relaxed nothing gets to him. The perfect New York QB.

i wouldnt argue to much with 4th.
but are you saying you wouldnt swap for rodgers?:)

Syferus

nerd69 wrote: »

i wouldnt argue to much with 4th.
but are you saying you wouldnt swap for rodgers?:)

Why would you? The difference is negligible and you haven't a clue how Rodgers would react to NYC, let alone how long it'd take to know the Giants' playbook, he had a huge advantage in studying the system for four years in Green Bay before starting.

nerd69

Syferus wrote: »

Why would you? The difference is negligible and you haven't a clue how Rodgers would react to NYC, let alone how long it'd take to know the Giants' playbook, he had a huge advantage in studying the system for four years in Green Bay before starting.

good point

matthew8

Syferus wrote: »

Why would you? The difference is negligible and you haven't a clue how Rodgers would react to NYC, let alone how long it'd take to know the Giants' playbook, he had a huge advantage in studying the system for four years in Green Bay before starting.

Eli's not in the same league as Rodgers. Here's how I have the QBs (not in any particular order):

Elite:
Brady
Peyton
Brees
Rodgers
Very good:
Big Ben
Rivers
Schaub
Romo
Newton
Eli
Stafford
Cutler

I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants don't make the playoffs next year.

If I was to hypothetically have any of these QBs on the Ravens, setting aside the fact that Suggs wouldn't be on the same team as Big Ben/Brady, I would have Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Big Ben, Schaub, Newton and Stafford ahead of Eli.

nerd69

elis hard to rank in the regular season i cud argue for 10 qbs over him but when it come to 4th q in a playoff game hes a different animal.
wierd that a team that will prob be looking at a wildcard spot for the playoffs could have such a good chance to win the sb.

Masked Man

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post?id=45481

It'd be retarded beyond belief if somebody actually got punished for this.

Rodgers at number 5 on that list is the stupidest thing ever. Stopped reading once I saw that (surprised I made it past no.3).

nerd69

Masked Man wrote: »

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post?id=45481

It'd be retarded beyond belief if somebody actually got punished for this.

Rodgers at number 5 on that list is the stupidest thing ever. Stopped reading once I saw that (surprised I made it past no.3).

no way he gets punished whoever made the complaint deserves a clip in the back of the head

Red Crow

The fact that people still question Eli's elite status is unbelievable. He's not number one but he is elite, no doubt.

Most of these people who harbour such an opinion don't represent a informative opinion on the sport.

Hulk Hands

Depends on how broad you allow the term elite to be. I'd personally cap it at no more than 4 per 32 teams which leaves Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady as the comfortable shoe-in's for that term in my opinion.

There are even others who I would have as closer to elite status than Eli. Big Ben is as clutch in the off season and better in the regular season. And i'd be confident Rivers would have a couple of rings had Eli not been anti Chargers in 04 and Philip had ended up in NY, i.e having that defense, those WR's and most of all, a competent backroom team.

Syferus

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Depends on how broad you allow the term elite to be. I'd personally cap it at no more than 4 per 32 teams which leaves Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady as the comfortable shoe-in's for that term in my opinion.

There are even others who I would have as closer to elite status than Eli. Big Ben is as clutch in the off season and better in the regular season. And i'd be confident Rivers would have a couple of rings had Eli not been anti Chargers in 04 and Philip had ended up in NY, i.e having that defense, those WR's and most of all, a competent backroom team.

You can't cap it, just because there's more more than an arbitrary number of elite players at a position isn't a reason to disqualify the ones you consider in the bottom of that pack. That's a punishment for operating in a golden era of QB play. It's like saying Joe Frazier wasn't a great boxer because he lost to Ali and Foreman twice.

I've always considered Big Ben borderline elite and there's not a more endearing (on the field) player than him, the way he plays the game is unique and should be celebrated more. The Steelers until recently were a power running team, though, and Big Ben had less of a hand in the Steelers' two Bowls under him (particularly the first one in his second season) than Eli did in the Giants' two. A stellar year for Ben is all it'd take for him to ascend like Eli did this year, he's already got the rings so for him it's more about regular season stats.

If but's and maybes, Rivers isn't even be in the elite conversation after last season. He'll need to show he's good enough to win games that matter before he can claim any serious plaudits.

nerd69

but what has eli done in the regular season to be considered elite your saying hes definitely elite and that cant be questioned because of about 6 games when hes had far more games that hes been average or just plain bad

nerd69

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Most of these people who harbour such an opinion don't represent a informative opinion on the sport.

theres professional analysts who feel the same
iv been watching the nfl for years and i am fairly educated on most matters nfl dont question that just because you disagree with me.