The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

nerd69

if brandon weedens 5 years younger this is one hell of a qb draft

JaMarcus Hustle

nerd69 wrote: »

if brandon weedens 5 years younger this is one hell of a qb draft

Couldn't disagree more. Luck and Griffin aside, it's horrendously bad.

nerd69

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Couldn't disagree more. Luck and Griffin aside, it's really really bad.

Tannehill and cousins are being overblown for me there good project qbs and in 2 years they can be very good but i think luck and rg3 are legit elite qbs and weeden looks very good hes just old but 3 top 10 qbs is a good draft and i think weeden goes top 10 if hes younger

JaMarcus Hustle

Weeden's a 28 year old system QB who plays in a hugely QB-friendly spread offence with the best receiver in football. He was put under centre for the first time in his career in the Senior Bowl and he was absolutely horrendous! He's a likeable guy and personality wise, there's no issues but to me he's an older Colt McCoy with ginger hair. Next year's QB class is fantastic - if you like this years, then you'll definitely love next years! There are (imo, of course) 5 first round calibre QBs and another 3/4 who with another year under their belt would be ranked ahead of Ryan Tannehill is this year. It's the most QB friendly draft in years imo.

nerd69

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Weeden's a 28 year old system QB who plays in a hugely QB-friendly spread offence with the best receiver in football. He was put under centre for the first time in his career in the Senior Bowl and he was absolutely horrendous! He's a likeable guy and personality wise, there's no issues but to me he's an older Colt McCoy with ginger hair. Next year's QB class is fantastic - if you like this years, then you'll definitely love next years! There are (imo, of course) 5 first round calibre QBs and another 3/4 who with another year under their belt would be ranked ahead of Ryan Tannehill is this year. It's the most QB friendly draft in years imo.

would you mind naming them id like to look them up one of them looks like hes gna be a future eagle

nerd69

wtf is with osweilers throwing motion whats the point in being so tall if your throwin it from your knees

JaMarcus Hustle

nerd69 wrote: »

would you mind naming them id like to look them up one of them looks like hes gna be a future eagle

Obviously people will disagree, but the ones I like are -

1. Matt Barkley, USC(1st overall pick)
2. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (2nd overall pick)
3. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Top 10 pick)
4. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Top 20 pick)
5. Geno Smith, West Virginia (1st Round)
6. Aaron Murray, Georgia (Early 2nd)
7. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech (2nd Round)

I really like those 7, and I honestly feel that with another year under their belts, Casey Pachall (TCU) and Jordan Rodgers (Vanderbily - Aaron Rodgers baby bro) and maybe Sean Renfree (Duke) would be up there aswell. I don't think for a second we'll see 10 Quarterbacks taken in the first two rounds obviously, but the depth next year is incredible).

nerd69

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Obviously people will disagree, but the ones I like are -

1. Matt Barkley, USC(1st overall pick)
2. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (2nd overall pick)
3. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Top 10 pick)
4. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Top 20 pick)
5. Geno Smith, West Virginia (1st Round)
6. Aaron Murray, Georgia (Early 2nd)
7. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech (2nd Round)

I really like those 7, and I honestly feel that with another year under their belts, Casey Pachall (TCU), Sean Renfree (Duke) and Jordan Rodgers (Vanderbily - Aaron Rodgers baby bro) would be up there aswell. I don't think for a second we'll see 10 Quarterbacks taken in the first two rounds obviously, but the depth next year is incredible).

iv seen a bit of matt barkley hes not quite andrew luck but hes gona be very good il look up the rest over the next few days thanks man .

will they all apply for the draft tho or is there only gona be 2-4 of them

JaMarcus Hustle

nerd69 wrote: »

iv seen a bit of matt barkley hes not quite andrew luck but hes gona be very good il look up the rest over the next few days thanks man .

will they all apply for the draft tho or is there only gona be 2-4 of them

The ones in bold are seniors so will be in the draft next year. The others are juniors, so it depends on what they choose.

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

1. Matt Barkley, USC (1st overall pick)
2. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (2nd overall pick)
3. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Top 10 pick)
4. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Top 20 pick)
5. Geno Smith, West Virginia (1st Round)
6. Aaron Murray, Georgia (Early 2nd)
7. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech (2nd Round)

OAOB

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Obviously people will disagree, but the ones I like are -

1. Matt Barkley, USC(1st overall pick)
2. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (2nd overall pick)
3. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Top 10 pick)
4. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Top 20 pick)
5. Geno Smith, West Virginia (1st Round)
6. Aaron Murray, Georgia (Early 2nd)
7. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech (2nd Round)

I really like those 7, and I honestly feel that with another year under their belts, Casey Pachall (TCU) and Jordan Rodgers (Vanderbily - Aaron Rodgers baby bro) and maybe Sean Renfree (Duke) would be up there aswell. I don't think for a second we'll see 10 Quarterbacks taken in the first two rounds obviously, but the depth next year is incredible).

I thought Landry Jones stock dropped last year, does he not need a big year to guarantee a first round spot? And i could be wrong but have they not a real promising freshman QB who might take his starting job?
This is all just stuff i remember hearing at the end of last years season but not overly familiar with the college game yet so i could be completely wrong

nerd69

thank you very much mr hustle much appreciated

Onecoolcookie

Logan Thomas is an absolute beast! Hope he can continue to improve cos he's a player I really like the look of. Tyler Bray has impressed me on the few occasions I've watched him and he's already broken some of Manning's records so is on the right track.

Really not a fan of Jones however, as soon as Broyles was injured last season the team went to pieces and I felt he was exposed for the fairly average QB he is.

Also seeing as I've mentioned him above, where is Broyles likely to be drafted? Haven't heard much about him but he was a brilliant college player, deserves his chance and would be a great later round pick up.

JaMarcus Hustle

Jones stock dropped but it was all a bit too reactionary (myself included). It coincided with his #1 target tearing his ACL. At the end of the day, he still threw for nearly 4,500 yards and 29 touchdowns, and has over 9,000 yards with 67 TDs in his last 2 years. That's pretty phenomenal by anyone's standards. Blake Bell is getting a lot of touches because he happens to be a QB who runs the ball like a fullback, but Jones is still #1 by a long way.

nerd69

im sorry maby its just me but brock osweiler does not look like a good prospect at hes worth a 7th maby a 6th why all the hype

HigginsJ

Seems as though they are looking to get the Atlanta Falcons on "Hard Knocks" this season

HigginsJ

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Obviously people will disagree, but the ones I like are -

1. Matt Barkley, USC(1st overall pick)
2. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (2nd overall pick)
3. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (Top 10 pick)
4. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (Top 20 pick)
5. Geno Smith, West Virginia (1st Round)
6. Aaron Murray, Georgia (Early 2nd)
7. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech (2nd Round)

I really like those 7, and I honestly feel that with another year under their belts, Casey Pachall (TCU) and Jordan Rodgers (Vanderbily - Aaron Rodgers baby bro) and maybe Sean Renfree (Duke) would be up there aswell. I don't think for a second we'll see 10 Quarterbacks taken in the first two rounds obviously, but the depth next year is incredible).

I agree with you on Barkley and Bray they are both class acts.

Barkley took a risk going back as he was going to be a top 5 pick this year and he is losing Matt Kalil but if he performs as expected he goes Number 1 overall next year no doubt.

The rest have lots of questions to answer. I think Geno Smith will struggle badly to ever be a pro QB. He could in due course but i see him very similar to Tyrell Pryor. He will need 2/3 years backing up before even being considered to be a starter.

Wilson, Jones and Murray could go either way. Right now its fair enough to give them benefit of the doubt but they all need big years to cement your lofty opinion of them.

I think Osweilier is really intiguing. He is a giant with very good mobility. I would have him before Weeden, Cousins etc. If i had the choice of Tannehill in the 1st or Osweiler in the 2nd for me Osweiler is a no-brainer.

nerd69

HigginsJ wrote: »

I agree with you on Barkley and Bray they are both class acts.

Barkley took a risk going back as he was going to be a top 5 pick this year and he is losing Matt Kalil but if he performs as expected he goes Number 1 overall next year no doubt.

i think this is the key its a bit of a risk but luck was going 1 this year hell he woulda been number 1 last year if he entered the draft barkley is a big talent but just didnt have a hope.
being the number one pick brings the big wage but it also gets you countless endorsments and makes you the face of a franchise in most cases i think this was the key
on a personal note i think staying on for the extra year shows a maturity that i find admirable in young players.

davyjose

HigginsJ wrote: »

Barkley took a risk going back as he was going to be a top 5 pick this year and he is losing Matt Kalil but if he performs as expected he goes Number 1 overall next year no doubt.

I think not doing it is a bigger risk. Look how ill-prepared Sancize was for the NFL, and has never been able to develop from it. It fired massively on Rodgers too. I dunno, the best QB's always seem to have played their senior year: Brady Manning Favre Elway Marino Montana....

me-skywalker

Yootubemee is gone!! NFL/Youtube/Sopa caught up eventually.

Dont think we'll se too many more Cam's classics :-(

Hulk Hands

The LA Vikings became a step closer to reality last night, with the local Minnesota government voting against the proposed stadium bill which had been expected to pass comfortably.

As a fan, ive no real connection with Minnesota but moving the team is not something id like to see. Neither would the NFL by all accounts, but it seems that after giving tax payers money to two stadiums recently, the public and government has no intention of contributing to a third

JaMarcus Hustle

me-skywalker wrote: »

Yootubemee is gone!! NFL/Youtube/Sopa caught up eventually.

Dont think we'll se too many more Cam's classics :-(

I've been avoiding tagging any of my videos or giving them names related to what they actually are. Hopefully they'll go undetected but if need be I'll just host them somewhere else.

Will start uploading the next game tonight - it's over 3gb so will probably take best part of 24 hours to upload. It renders using the Internet at the same time useless, so haven't been able to find a window to get it done. Hopefully tonight.

nerd69

Hulk Hands wrote: »

The LA Vikings became a step closer to reality last night, with the local Minnesota government voting against the proposed stadium bill which had been expected to pass comfortably.

As a fan, ive no real connection with Minnesota but moving the team is not something id like to see. Neither would the NFL by all accounts, but it seems that after giving tax payers money to two stadiums recently, the public and government has no intention of contributing to a third

to be honest i think the vikings fit in well in minnesota and have a large and very loyal fan base i would be disapointed if they moved the fact of the matter is l.a. fans are fickle and if there team is not winning they will stop going to games therefor the only teams i think benifit from moving would be a team like the jaguars who struggle to fill stadiums as it is

SK1979

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

me-skywalker wrote: »

Yootubemee is gone!! NFL/Youtube/Sopa caught up eventually.

Dont think we'll se too many more Cam's classics :-(

I've been avoiding tagging any of my videos or giving them names related to what they actually are. Hopefully they'll go undetected but if need be I'll just host them somewhere else.

Will start uploading the next game tonight - it's over 3gb so will probably take best part of 24 hours to upload. It renders using the Internet at the same time useless, so haven't been able to find a window to get it done. Hopefully tonight.

Make sure to cache some good porn for the wait... :-)

HigginsJ

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8285f369/article/how-to-draft-a-qb-part-2-one-and-done?module=HP11_content_stream

Brian Billick on drafting a QB. This part has alot on the Manning/Leaf debate.

JaMarcus Hustle

Dear God, the Steelers throw back jersey is ghastly.

nerd69

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Dear God, the Steelers throw back jersey is ghastly.

oh god my eyes :eek:

davyjose

A new stadium in Minnesota would bring a lot to the place. Possibly a super bowl. The cost of losing them would be detrimental to the area. Do the powers that be really think the Twins mean more to the city than the vikings? They already lost one purple and Gold team to LA. Do they really think it can't happen again? Madness!

davyjose

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Dear God, the Steelers throw back jersey is ghastly.

It'd look savage with the old leather helmets, smeared in mud and grass stains. Now, not so much.

Arawn

Dear christ that is disgusting

GoldFour4

davyjose wrote: »

A new stadium in Minnesota would bring a lot to the place. Possibly a super bowl. The cost of losing them would be detrimental to the area. Do the powers that be really think the Twins mean more to the city than the vikings? They already lost one purple and Gold team to LA. Do they really think it can't happen again? Madness!

One thing is for certain. The nfl is furious with the decision made by the officials. They really want to keep this team in Minnesota. As for stadiums I think that Target Field was given financial approval during a very different financial era to todays one. Cities and states are being a lot tighter with their wallets.

The twins might not be as valuable as the Vikes but you have to remember that Minnesota is a rarity in the fact that it has a team in all the major north american sports league. Its gonna be hard to please everyone.

Its a story similiar to the Sacremento Kings in the NBA. The city pleaded to keep the team. Everyone thought a stadium deal was done, only for it to be rejected. It looks very certain that the Kings will be in Anaheim next year. Wouldn't surprise me if the Vikings joined them in California in the near future.