Supreme Court says no women need apply to Golf Club. Mod warning post 119

Zulu · 03-11-2009 2:22pm

I'm surprised...

...where are the feminazis???

Gone Drinking · 03-11-2009 2:30pm

Its exactly like the Black Movie Awards.. its ok for some!

alanucc · 03-11-2009 2:41pm

New sign spotted at the entrance to Portmarnock Golf Club

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GavRedKing · 03-11-2009 2:49pm

I cant see the wimmins been happy over this and TBH who cares, the say you cant be a memeber but you can still play through the course, I dont really see much of a problem here if you wanted to play.

WindSock · 03-11-2009 2:52pm

man wrote: »

I'm surprised...

...where are the feminazis???

Heerrree I am

Resident ahem 'feminazi' is in the house briefly.

Now, back to getting back to putting those tampons in the holes around the golf course.

Oh yeah, and men suck!

And moaning about gyms? Give me a break. I bet you moan about there ladies toilets and showers too.

WindSock · 03-11-2009 2:54pm

gavredking wrote: »

I cant see the wimmins been happy over this and TBH who cares, the say you cant be a memeber but you can still play through the course, I dont really see much of a problem here if you wanted to play.

Why bother letting women play but not give them membership? What are the privilages of membership?

mudokon · 03-11-2009 2:55pm

gavredking wrote: »

I cant see the wimmins been happy over this and TBH who cares, the say you cant be a memeber but you can still play through the course, I dont really see much of a problem here if you wanted to play.

I suppose that depends on what the rules are for non members playing the course, are they entitled to just walk in & pay to play or do they have to be signed in by a member?

WindSock · 03-11-2009 2:56pm

meditraitor wrote: »

gynophobia might also explain it, you have to consider the presssure young guys are under to adhere to the new feminist mandate.:pac:

Yeah, women clearly rule the world...

Eoin · 03-11-2009 3:03pm

gavredking wrote: »

I cant see the wimmins been happy over this and TBH who cares, the say you cant be a memeber but you can still play through the course, I dont really see much of a problem here if you wanted to play.

Presumably they don't have to pay the 12,000 joining fee, so maybe they're not all that pissed off about it.

WindSock wrote:

And moaning about gyms? Give me a break. I bet you moan about there ladies toilets and showers too.

I don't follow you. Are there not women only gyms? What have toilets and showers to do with anything?

WindSock · 03-11-2009 3:09pm

eoin wrote: »

I don't follow you. Are there not women only gyms? What have toilets and showers to do with anything?

There are yes. That is fair enough, also fair enough to have men only gyms btw.

Working out in a gym can be a bit personal, like toilets and showers. It's a physical thing.
Don't see how golf is the same though.

ScumLord · 03-11-2009 3:14pm

WindSock wrote: »

Why bother letting women play but not give them membership? What are the privilages of membership?

There's no women. It completely defeats the purpose of the club if they let women in.

I think this is taking things to far tbh, I'd love to see the list of women that actually want to join this club. There's nothing wrong with it being a men only club the same way there's nothing wrong with a womens only club. There usually specialised interest clubs and if the golf club was the only one around they'd have something to argue. There's nothing stopping them from forming their own unofficial club where they can do lady things.

The Davestator · 03-11-2009 3:21pm

Happy with the ruling on the golf course but am also happy that winnin were allowed into the pubs a 'few' years back;)

netwhizkid · 03-11-2009 3:29pm

Wimmens folk are still banned from drinking pints though right?

Eoin · 03-11-2009 3:39pm

WindSock wrote: »

There are yes. That is fair enough, also fair enough to have men only gyms btw.

Working out in a gym can be a bit personal, like toilets and showers. It's a physical thing.
Don't see how golf is the same though.

Why can't a club pick its own members though? Is it really that big a deal, or is the indignation (not from you) just "because"? OK, so you don't understand why they might want a place "for the lads", but what's the point of forcing them to admit women members when it's clear they don't want to. Who's going to gain anything from that, other than a hollow victory?

I doubt that the only "women only" clubs / associations are gyms, or where they might feel physically self-conscious for some reason. I don't include car insurance in that, as that's just marketing.

Interestingly, an article in the Irish Times says that no women have ever complained about being refused membership in Portmarnock. As I said, maybe they're happy to not fork out 12K, and to leave the old fashioned guys to themselves.

biko · 03-11-2009 3:45pm

beachbabe wrote: »

As far as I know the president of Ireland has automatic membership in Portmarnock. This rule dates back many years. I wonder will that still be the case?

It is apparently a tradition at Portmarnock that the President of Ireland is given an honorary membership of the club. This honorarium was instituted at a time when it would have been inconceivable that a mere woman would have broken into the all-male club of Irish Presidents.

Lux23 · 03-11-2009 3:47pm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But why would they want to play golf in the first place?

That's my thought exactly. Boy though I would love to be the only female member of a gentleman's club, I would have my pick of them every saturday night.

dermot01G · 03-11-2009 3:54pm

Lux23 wrote: »

That's my thought exactly. Boy though I would love to be the only female member of a gentleman's club, I would have my pick of them every saturday night.

Ironically, there is not a great deal going on in Portmarnock Golf Club on a Saturday night...one of the disadvantages of no lady members.

aDeener · 03-11-2009 3:54pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i cannot believe the level of misogyny in this thread, posts reported tbh.

where? :rolleyes:

MagicMarker · 03-11-2009 3:56pm

WindSock wrote: »

There are yes. That is fair enough, also fair enough to have men only gyms btw.

Working out in a gym can be a bit personal, like toilets and showers. It's a physical thing.
Don't see how golf is the same though.

So women have their own gyms because a select few of them might feel a little self conscious in a unisex gym? You do realise men can feel self conscious too? It's a 'physical' thing.

aDeener · 03-11-2009 3:57pm

WindSock wrote: »

There are yes. That is fair enough, also fair enough to have men only gyms btw.

Working out in a gym can be a bit personal, like toilets and showers. It's a physical thing.
Don't see how golf is the same though.

if that's the case why go to one at all..... for fear that their might be other there?oh the horror :rolleyes: what the hell has gender got to do with it?!

WindSock · 03-11-2009 4:09pm

I doubt that the only "women only" clubs / associations are gyms, or where they might feel physically self-conscious for some reason.

Minorities have their own corners, otherwise the mainstream will engulf them. Look at tLL for example. How come there has to be a single forum on this site dedicated to 50 percent of the population (granted that's not boards.ie population) But there still has to be sections where people of certain groups are allowed their voices to evolve without mainstream hinderance.

What I don't understand is why they are allowed play but not join? Is there some sort of exclusive access to members?

WindSock · 03-11-2009 4:12pm

aDeener wrote: »

if that's the case why go to one at all..... for fear that their might be other there?oh the horror :rolleyes: what the hell has gender got to do with it?!

Breasts bouncing on a treadmill, although that is not exclusively to women :pac:

Do you take showers with people of opposite genders in your clubs? Some people feel uncomfortable. But others don't, that's why there is the option there.

There are male only gyms, aren't there gay men gyms?

super_furry · 03-11-2009 4:16pm

Women aren't a minority group.

Zulu · 03-11-2009 4:18pm

WindSock wrote: »

Working out in a gym can be a bit personal, like toilets and showers. It's a physical thing.

Only for fat birds.

Theta · 03-11-2009 4:20pm

Members can use the bar and women are not allowed play all the time AFAIK only certain days at certain times.

Prob a Monday morning between 9 and 9.15

WindSock · 03-11-2009 4:23pm

super_furry wrote: »

Women aren't a minority group.

Minority doesn't just mean numbers.

It can mean wealth, power and influence in society, for example.

WindSock · 03-11-2009 4:27pm

Zulu wrote: »

Only for fat birds.

Or birds who have had negative and unwanted attention.

Leixlip_Red · 03-11-2009 4:32pm

Gyalist wrote: »

The strange thing about cases like these is that is usually pussified men - male feminists - who are usually in the forefront of the campaign. The women aren't usually bothered - they have much more pressing things to worry about.

Last week, the big brouhaha in the US was over female White House staff not being invited to play basketball with the President. As usual, the women didn't care but it was other men using it as an excuse to attack the President.

Quick, someone warn Jack Bauer

kincsem · 03-11-2009 4:34pm

WindSock wrote: »

Why bother letting women play but not give them membership? What are the privilages of membership?

They might be voting in things like lace curtains and cushions and such and such.

Eoin · 03-11-2009 4:35pm

WindSock wrote: »

Minorities have their own corners, otherwise the mainstream will engulf them. Look at tLL for example. How come there has to be a single forum on this site dedicated to 50 percent of the population (granted that's not boards.ie population) But there still has to be sections where people of certain groups are allowed their voices to evolve without mainstream hinderance.

I still don't see the difference between a men only club and a women only club, using your example.

And more importantly, I don't see the actual problem, other than some irrelevant ideological debate - who exactly has the problem with this? It certainly doesn't seem to be the women who play at Portmarnock. What would be gained by forcing a private club to admit women members?

WindSock wrote: »

What I don't understand is why they are allowed play but not join? Is there some sort of exclusive access to members?

It's a legal technicality as far as I know. As it's just the membership that's exclusive, it means that the principle activity of the club (i.e. golfing) is not discriminatory. The example that was used in this case was that a gay club would not be discrimination, but a gay rugby club would be, as the principle activity is athletic, not association.

Supreme Court says no women need apply to Golf Club. Mod warning post 119

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