Sheamus thread. ***most recent Raw/PPV spoilers***

RAMPAGE1

Hi All,
Just wondering what people think of Sheamus so far. He has moved to RAW which is a huge step up for him. Do people think he can handle this and is he ready for the main stage and flag ship show. Personally I think he needs more time but based on the powerslam interview with HHH he's doing all the right things with the right people

Penn

I think its too soon. He should have held the ECW title for a while first. Plus his fued with Shelton never finished did it?

shinzon

he must be ticking some boxes for wwe if they feel hes ready for RAW, fair play to him, personally im not so sure if he is ready, but only time will tell in that regard

have to say though from IWW to WWE is some leap for the man

Shin

Cactus Col

I've been impressed with him on eCw, although I do cringe slightly whenever he's on the mic. He could make a useful member of the Raw roster, so it will be very interesting to see how he's used.

rossie1977

Cactus Col wrote: »

I've been impressed with him on eCw, although I do cringe slightly whenever he's on the mic. He could make a useful member of the Raw roster, so it will be very interesting to see how he's used.

me too, but most of the americans/australians and british on other forums seem to think his mic work is good and he should get more mic time

was impressed with his display last night, in-ring he has improved a huge amount since iww

FutureGuy

I think he has shown more than enough ability to warrant a move to RAW. However, I do think its waaaaay too soon. They should have let him get over some established ECW stars first. The only reason I can think of as to why they moved him to RAW is that they have very big plans for him.

Best of luck to him, deserves everything he has achieved.

briany

Wow yeah Sheamus on Raw. Good for him. Maybe Vince has a li'l soft spot for the Irishman. I think Sheamus has the reddest hair of anyone I've ever seen though it's close. He must dye it cause even his eyebrows are fire red! Most red headed people have light blonde type eyebrows. I suppose WWE must be telling him not to tan plus there's probably his natural inability to cause good god he is whiter than white and makes for a striking contrast. I cringe a bit too when he's on the mike but only cause the accent is so familiar, it just sounds like someone from down the road hopped the barrier and got on the mike, lol.

Jolt2007

I don't think he's ready, but good luck to him any. Wouldn't shock me if he's taken the spot planned for Nigel McWolfie.

davrho

rossie1977 wrote: »

me too, but most of the americans/australians and british on other forums seem to think his mic work is good and he should get more mic time

was impressed with his display last night, in-ring he has improved a huge amount since iww

This must be the same as I feel when McIntyre is on the mic. His accent to me is cringeworthy. I am originaly from the outside of Glasgow. Like the Irish folks dancing to the Proclaimers while i find them nauseous:)

I think Seamus comes across pretty well from what i have seen. Only watched the opening segment of Raw but looking forward to seeing him later on the show.

Good luck to him.

Penn

We're saying Sheamus' accent is cringeworthy.

A Scottish person had said McIntyre's accent is cringeworthy

Italians probably put the telly on mute whenever Santino comes on


It was the same when Kevin Smith came to Dublin a few weeks ago. Listening to Irish people ask questions, I actually felt kind of embarrassed. Its only because, when watching wrestling/films whatever, the majority of the accents you're hearing are American, when an Irish person talks you really notice the accent

Bounty Hunter

I share the sentiments of many here with a lil surprise that he didnt atleast get pushed into the ECW main event scene before making the jump to another brand, but being brought up top Raw is obviously an indication that he is doing well both in and out of the ring in the WWE's eyes and long may that continue. I do fear he may lose out in the shuffle on Raw and only really come good afterwards but the exposure he will get on Raw should be beneficial also and he will now seem more of a star and an established entity if he were to go to SD and perhaps as anticipated face off against/Team up with Finlay or return to ECW and go for the title.

dsmythy

First order of business for Sheamus is to murder Hornswaggle for reasons of getting rid of the troll and of course getting over as a heel.

Podge2k7

dsmythy wrote: »

First order of business for Sheamus is to murder Hornswaggle for reasons of getting rid of the troll and of course getting over as a heel.

We can only hope.

JP Liz

imo its too soon for him to move he needs to be built up more on ECW and maybe given a title run but looks like being Hunter's golden boy is paying off for him

Cactus Col

JP Liz wrote: »

imo its too soon for him to move he needs to be built up more on ECW and maybe given a title run but looks like being Hunter's golden boy is paying off for him

I've been a bit out of the loop lately ... how is Sheamus Hunter's golden boy?

JP Liz

Cactus Col wrote: »

I've been a bit out of the loop lately ... how is Sheamus Hunter's golden boy?

part of a HHH interview

Who do you regard as the next wave of headline-level talent in WWE?
Well, C.M. Punk is obviously already on his way to becoming a big star. Jack Swagger, I like. Sheamus. Evan Bourne is very good. Kofi Kingston. They are all moving up, but slowly, which is the right way.

Finally, are you mentoring any WWE wrestler in particular? And in who, do you see the most of the young Triple H?
The closest to me is probably Sheamus, because we always train together on the road. But I try to watch all the young guys' matches and give them advice, if they want to hear it. If they take advice to heart and really want to improve, them I am wanting to help. As for seeing some of myself in someone? Thats tough. Sheamus just the other day showed up at a show he didn't have to be at. He does whatever he's asked to do without complaining, he goes to every show and is always wanting to work: he does it all, goes above and beyond. That's what I was like.

Well currently WWE is in trouble creating future stars so they are rushing to create them now. Keep watching for new additions as mid carders step up. Vince also loves to have a top Irish wrestler .

Whiplash

Sheamus is gonna get a hell of a reaction next week in the O2.

D-FENS

Kofi Kingston must be delighted with SOS coming to Raw too, he’s been singing about him in his theme tune for two years now

Its funny , the last time i was at a wrestling show, i was at it with Sheamus . Now he is on the show .

Bubs101

Worst thing that could happen to him. He's good but he's not on the level of a Swagger or a Bourne either in terms of potential, in ring ability or overness on ECW and look where their moves to Raw got them. He's ****ed and'll be future endeavoured in a year

Machismo Fan

The crowd didn't give a crap about him this week anyway.

Penn

Bubs101 wrote: »

Worst thing that could happen to him. He's good but he's not on the level of a Swagger or a Bourne either in terms of potential, in ring ability or overness on ECW and look where their moves to Raw got them. He's ****ed and'll be future endeavoured in a year

Nah, lets face it, he's one of HHH's buddies now. Even though I doubt he'll make much of an impact on Raw, I'd say he'll be moved to Smackdown in next years draft

Nody

I think he'd benefit more from being a star in a smaller show (ECW) then being a average mid carder in a big show (RAW).

Then again if we where in the situation of getting such an offer (in our respective professional careers) I'd say it would be mighty hard to say no and wish him the best.

The Cannibal

They botched the debut really. The video package was pretty good but there was dead silence during the match cause the Raw audience aren't conditioned to expect ECW style squash matches and a lot of them don't watch ECW so probably only have the vaguest notion who Sheamus is.

They really should have had him jump someone or get the victory over someone higher on the pole than Jamie Noble rather than putting his segment out there to die. He did nothing wrong and Noble did a good job of selling that kick like death but it was just a bad way of unveiling someone on Raw.

In an ideal world he would have won the ECW title, appeared on a couple of PPV's, and then lost it before moving to Raw. I'm also shocked they didn't put him on Smackdown! to jump Finlay. Guess they have a quota of irishmen per show.

EDIT: Now I think of it, they probably should have held the debut off until the UK Raw where he would have gotten a better reaction as an Irishman in front of all the Brits.

Bubs101

The Cannibal wrote: »

EDIT: Now I think of it, they probably should have held the debut off until the UK Raw where he would have gotten a better reaction as an Irishman in front of all the Brits.

He would have gotten a face reaction. The British are in general really nice to the Irish whereas the Irish are pricks to them. They supported us in the 94 World Cup whereas we support whoever plays them

Penn

Bubs101 wrote: »

He would have gotten a face reaction. The British are in general really nice to the Irish whereas the Irish are pricks to them. They supported us in the 94 World Cup whereas we support whoever plays them

Same with the Eurovision. They keep giving us 12 points, we barely give them anything.

Nah I still think its too soon. I really hopes he does well and the potential for some great matches are there, but he was doing brilliantly on ECW, be a shame to see him fade into the background on Raw

paddyirishman85

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Same with the Eurovision. They keep giving us 12 points, we barely give them anything.

Nah I still think its too soon. I really hopes he does well and the potential for some great matches are there, but he was doing brilliantly on ECW, be a shame to see him fade into the background on Raw

How did Eurovision come up on the Pro Wrestling forum?
I think he will make it over, Its a valuable asset being Triple H's protegé.
I seriously don't see him being let go, He has the size and ability so why not?

michael.etc...

Are people being sarcastic when referring to Sheamus as Triple H's "buddy" or "protégé" or "golden boy"?

Really, just because he was name-dropped in an interview means very little. For all anyone knows, he may have been the first name to come into HHH's head.

Personally, I feel that Sheamus coming onto Raw is a big mistake. The whole point of ECW should be to work through all the fine-tuning they expect, and to get over with a large portion of the audience. Neither have been achieved yet. I would have gave him at least until the Draft, then he maybe would have had a chance of not being just another guy upon his arrival.

The Cannibal

He didn't just name drop him. He said he works out with him and mentors him.

michael.etc...

The Cannibal wrote: »

He didn't just name drop him. He said he works out with him and mentors him.

All he said was, "we always train together on the road". Could well have been that Seamus was someone he wanted to name-drop because he turned up for the show he mentioned. He was hardly gonna say, "nah, I dont see anything in any of them, and can't be arsed mentoring anyone".

He also said "what big star ever laid down for me".

sky88

dsmythy wrote: »

First order of business for Sheamus is to murder Hornswaggle for reasons of getting rid of the troll and of course getting over as a heel.

i would pay to see sheamus bart the crap out of hornswoggle it would be brilliant

bigeasyeah

Best of luck to him.He might rise to the challenge.

DM_7

I think its great.

Look at Kofi. He was raw when moved to RAW but now look at him. He can put on a great match and is now getting to move up the roster. WWE always move guys they think have potential.

This can only help Sheamus.

RAW is full of short matches. Sheamus can do big moves as he is strong which suits short matches. Instead of working shows with a limited group of guys he is now on a show where there are more people to learn from day to day outside the live shows. Instead of Shelton and Goldust he can work with the best around like HBK or Hunter. The added exposure will help his career. This is the best way for him to improve.

The Cannibal

Sheamus finally will get his hands on Finlay at Survivor Series! First PPV appearance. Onwards and upwards.

John Morrison
Evan Bourne
Shelton Benjamin
Matt Hardy
Finlay

vs.

The Miz
Sheamus
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Jack Swagger

DM_7

The Cannibal wrote: »

Sheamus finally will get his hands on Finlay at Survivor Series! First PPV appearance. Onwards and upwards.

John Morrison
Evan Bourne
Shelton Benjamin
Matt Hardy
Finlay

vs.

The Miz
Sheamus
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Jack Swagger

Some good potential one on one matches to look forward to there.

Gerard.C

Drew and Sheamus in the same match at Survivor Series. God be with the days they used be wrestling each other below in the forum in Waterford

Penn

The Cannibal wrote: »

Sheamus finally will get his hands on Finlay at Survivor Series! First PPV appearance. Onwards and upwards.

John Morrison
Evan Bourne
Shelton Benjamin
Matt Hardy
Finlay

vs.

The Miz
Sheamus
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Jack Swagger

Wow. I think I might be looking forward to this match the most. Apart from Finlay and Hardy, this is essentially the future of the WWE

flahavaj

So much potential for a really really good match in that 10 man tag. Hopefully they give it a good 15-20 minutes and just let them let rip. First time I've seen one of these matches where literally everyone in it has it in them to really really go 100 miles per hour and theres no real dead weight.

As Ger said theres something heart warming to see Drew and SOS go at it on a big four PPV for the biggest company in the world after all those nights wrestling in the GAA clubs of Ireland. Dreams really do come true.:)

D2D

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/12155082/nobleupdate

Sheamus is now a force to be wreckened with!!:D:D

They are really selling Noble's injuries!!

Rjd2

Neither Drew or SOS deserve to be in that match ahead of Zack Ryder. :mad:
Woo Woo woo you know it.
The crowd will **** all over that match, not one of those guys have got a pop EVER.

(EDIT. apart from Matt. )

flahavaj

Rjd2 wrote: »

Neither Drew or SOS deserve to be in that match ahead of Zack Ryder. :mad:
Woo Woo woo you know it.
The crowd will **** all over that match, not one of those guys have got a pop EVER.

(EDIT. apart from Matt. )

In fairness if you don't give them the time and the platform such as this to get themselves over they never WILL get a pop.

Shaneomac

Rjd2 wrote: »

Neither Drew or SOS deserve to be in that match ahead of Zack Ryder. :mad:
Woo Woo woo you know it.
The crowd will **** all over that match, not one of those guys have got a pop EVER.

(EDIT. apart from Matt. )

and maybe Miz, and maybe Morrisson, and maybe Finlay:rolleyes:

Rjd2

flahavaj wrote: »

In fairness if you don't give them the time and the platform such as this to get themselves over they never WILL get a pop.

True, but do you really think that Drew and Big Red deserve to be on the PPV more than Ryder who has been one of the undoubted highlights of ECW in the last few months?

Rjd2

Shaneomac wrote: »

and maybe Miz, and maybe Morrisson, and maybe Finlay:rolleyes:

I stand corrected on the Miz.
But Morrison? Truth is more over than him and nobody has given a **** about Finlay since he lost the midget, Yoshi is more deserving of a spot than him. :eek:

geeky

The Cannibal wrote: »

Sheamus finally will get his hands on Finlay at Survivor Series! First PPV appearance. Onwards and upwards.

John Morrison
Evan Bourne
Shelton Benjamin
Matt Hardy
Finlay

vs.

The Miz
Sheamus
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Jack Swagger

Oh that does look pretty good - some great young talents on there.

flahavaj

Rjd2 wrote: »

True, but do you really think that Drew and Big Red deserve to be on the PPV more than Ryder who has been one of the undoubted highlights of ECW in the last few months?

50-50 really. Drew and Seamus are probably more likely to make it in the long term than Ryder. When did Vince ever give a monkeys what happens on ECW? I don't think Ryder's pops have exactly been blowing the roof off either.

Bear in mind ECW has been my favourite TV show pretty much since it began and I usually love almost everything thats done on it.

Penn

In a way, I'd have preferred to have Ryder or Yoshi on the face team rather than Finlay. But then the idea of Sheamus and Finlay in a match together on opposite teams is just too good an opportunity to pass up, seeing as how Finlays on SD and Sheamus is on Raw.

Bounty Hunter

ive a feeling we may just have a lot of conversation about this fella now so a bump was needed imo, btw if you have not seen Raw stop reading now...

Sheamus vs John Cena for the WWE Title at TLC in a table match is official after SOS won a battle royal on Raw and then put Cena through the table he had just used to sign the contract for his first WWE main event match. G'Wan Big Red!

smilerf

ok according to pro wrestling insider he is in the main event at TLC vs John Cena!!!
He really is being fastracked.
I hope he does ok. i think its too much too soon for sheamus
i personally would like to see him in there with a taker hhh hbk just incase

FutureGuy

urgh...seriously WWE needs to slow things down a notch.

I would have liked to have seen Sheamus get anouther 2-3 months of beating mid-carders.

Pushing him into a match with Cena now is a no-win situation. It's a throwaway PPV and I would be absolutely stunned if he did anything but lose to Cena...maybe at best Cena wins by DQ or something.