Limerick's Perceived Image

Stab*City

Mr E wrote: »

Calm down or I'm locking this thread.

Stab*City - post deleted for personal abuse. Keep it civil.

This forum is a joke people can openly call me a sham and i am the one who is warned!!

@ mr.E i dont think that constitutes as personal abuse when i was only confirming what the OP (of that comment) had said about themselves..

Aidric

grenache wrote: »

You're doing Bernard Flynn a diservice there. I was listening, and he clearly said he was born in Limerick, then another member of the guest panel shouted him down with the Tinker Town jibe. You're right in everything else you said. The scum ruin it for the rest of us.

FFS, what tosser came out with that line? A jackeen no doubt.

FutureGuy

john47832 wrote: »

Do you just completely miss the point or are you really that ignorant?

the point being made is there is an element of undesirables in Limerick, an element not a majority - if we were to listen to you then nobody would go out of their front door in the mornings

and yes the power is given to the element because of people like you and FutureGuy - Limerick was previously named stabcity by people like you - what do you expect?

John, I have never even used the phrase Stab City in conversation. I think it's vile.

I like living in Limerick. I am from Limerick. I wish I could say that this problem doesn't exist but it does. The reason why people are talking about Limerick in such a poor light is because so many people let it down due to their actions on the streets.

Sad, but true.

FutureGuy

Stab*City wrote: »

This "city" had a "bad name" long before any of the people you are talking about were even born. Limerick has a history of war and violence.

The past is the past. I am talking about today, the here and now. If I was a tourist soming to Limerick, I am hoping to see what the cty can offer me. I see people in pyjamas, gangs of tracksuited teenagers terrorising people (both physically and verbally), people spitting at each other. People openly swearing at each other. As a tourist myself, I have never seen any suck behavior in any other sith centre I have visited.

So If I happened to visited a city and I saw one or more of the above, you can bet I would say its scummy!

Stab*City wrote: »

Again people are entitled to wear whatever they like no matter what you or anyone else thinks. So save your breath. If the pj's annoy you that much you have a choice not to live here.

They can walk around naked, or in 3-piece business suits, as I said earlier, It doesn't bother me. Again, my point is that it makes the city look bad to outsiders.

Stab*City wrote: »

Why worry about Mr. green pants wearing american tourist telling his golf buddies at his retirement home that he overheard two "scobes" shouting at each other when the media and the "gangs" and the local politicians have already put the nail in the coffin and destroyed the name of our city.. i dont think all the tourists have lead as sheltered lives as yourself and are so intimidated by some phone argument.. ive seen alot worse in other real cities.

Yes I do worry about tourists. They pump alot of money into the city, and when I see a tourist, you can be sure I will try to help them if they look lost. Would you rather they go back and tell their friends about the bad side of Limerick...of course not because less people will come to see the things that are good about the city.

Stab*City wrote: »

in order to look down on anything that would imply that you are above something. you aint that great so get off that horse.

Personal abuse aside, I look down on noone. And if "aint that great" means someone with manners, an idea of how to act and dress respectfully in public and the ability to show the positive side of the city, then I am happy to not be "that great".

grenache

Stab*City wrote: »

Again people are entitled to wear whatever they like no matter what you or anyone else thinks. If the pj's annoy you that much you have a choice not to live here..

Pyjamas are bedwear. To be worn in bed. Sure if pj's are ok, why don't we all go round with our bedclothes on?? The answer, because we (i.e normal folk) actually have a shred of self dignity and respect.

Stab*City wrote: »

Why worry about Mr. green pants wearing american tourist telling his golf buddies at his retirement home that he overheard two "scobes" shouting at each other.

As previously said, it gives a bad image of the city. Last Friday an American tourist was spat at outside the shop i work in, right in the city centre. His crime? Not having a fag on him. :eek:

Stab*City wrote: »

in order to look down on anything that would imply that you are above something. you aint that great so get off that horse.

I would think he's better than the scum who infest the city on any given day. The majority of people on this forum are above that white trash. Its hard not to be when we actually contribute to society as opposed to leeching off it for life. We have respect and dignity, not to mention intelligence, these scum have none of those virtues.

osarusan

FutureGuy wrote: »

The reason why people are talking about Limerick in such a poor light is because so many people let it down due to their actions on the streets.

Sad, but true.

Spot on. I've lived in Dublin as well as Limerick, and you see much the same behaviour and much the same people in both cities.

I've seen very, very little violence in Limerick, and rarely felt intimidated. But there is just a depressing air to the place. There does seem to be an attitude of "nobody likes us anyway, so let's live down to our stereotypes". I've had friends visit me here in Limerick, and never had any problems, but they've just not been impressed with the city, or with some of its inhabitants and their actions.

cancan

Having been away from limerick for a long time and returned on a recent visit, i must agree with many of the points made here.
The town has allowed itself to be overrun by scumbags and wanta be knackers.
The guards must shoulder a large part of the blame. There should be a zero tolerance policy on anti social behaviour, but despite having 7 supers (or so I am told), there seems to be a general lack of interest in sorting the place out for once and for all.
All big crime starts small, and there seems to be no effort being made to nip the small stuff in the bud.

The fact that the locals seem to be ok with this rubbish level of policing paints an slightly damning picture of them also.

While limerick has the potential to be one of the nicest towns in ireland, with it's great location and beautiful river, it seems to be making no effort to make itself so.

Regarding scum, giving so many so much for doing nothing has led to the problems that are prevalant now, and allowing anti social behaviour to become the norm directly results in the poor image that the town maintains.

When you see people picking up their free money in pajamas, you know things are bad - Like if you cannot even look respectable to pick up free money, what hope has an inbred such as that at getting a job.

The country bends over backward to provide services and houses for free to the people who do the most damage to the city's reputation.

It took a while to get to this position, and a long time to fix it, but the will to do so seems absent for now.

When you can walk down the street without having to put up with degerates, they town will get better.

Pity really.

whatdoicare

Limerick is a very intimidating place for anyone on their own once 5:30/6pm hits. It's like the whole city centre is on lock down and all the regular people disappear!

Although I have seen awful stuff during the day-
I did once while escorting an ozzie cousin on a kinda tour of william street, see a car stop on that intersection between william and o'connell stopping all traffic, four shams got out and started beating the hell out of these other lads before jumping back in and speeding off. Everyone just stood there stunned! Needless to say that that was the image my cousin brought back with her of Limerick.

I also once saw a fella beat the poop out of his very illuminous pink pyjamaed girlfriend on Thomas street, she just got up, dusted herself off and walked away like as if it never happened.

Another time I watched a gang fight outside Mc Donalds on cruises street, a fella started beating another fella with a bike while three girls tore the heads off each other and one stuck a high heel into another girls head.

These are only some of the things I've seen- middle of the day on the main tourist streets! So make of that what you will but it sure isn't a good sign for tourists.

Liam79

grenache wrote: »

You're doing Bernard Flynn a diservice there. I was listening, and he clearly said he was born in Limerick, then another member of the guest panel shouted him down with the Tinker Town jibe. You're right in everything else you said. The scum ruin it for the rest of us.

Grenache, what he said was
Ciaran Whelan said no wonder Meath were so good in the 80's when they had a limerick man on the team (fair play wheelo!)
Flynn replies "ya i was born in limerick, sure isnt Flynn a good tinker name"

celticbest

I am a True Blue that has no links what so ever to limerick except that I have on numerous occassion gone to Limerick for a weekend away with the Wife. I have to say I have never had any hassle what so ever. I have always enjoyed my time there.

Yes all major cities have so called bad (no go) areas.

I have to say I'd rather go to Limerick than Galway, the amount of fights I seen in Galway has put me off going there, it's full of people P*ssed at all hours of the day and night.

Liam79

Stab, as for me trying to make you out to be a sham…no need man, you have shown that you more than capable of proving that yourself

Reaganomical

whatdoicare wrote: »

Limerick is a very intimidating place for anyone on their own once 5:30/6pm hits. It's like the whole city centre is on lock down and all the regular people disappear!

"lock down"?

What a ridiculous statement. The reason town gets quiet after 5.30/6 is because people who work in town don't tend to hang around after finishing work. They go home to their families...

Tell the punters thronging to the pubs and clubs of Limerick City tonight and the people who will be enjoying the city car-free day tomorrow that they should be intimidated...ffs, I've lived in Dublin and Berlin, and depending on what area you are in, both can be far more intimidating than Limerick. I've never had any problems in Limerick City on a night out or after 5.30.

Next thing someone is going to compare Limerick to downtown Kabul or Baghdad. :rolleyes:

Liam79

to be honest lads i will hold my hands up and admit i titled the thread badly, it should not have read dangerous....more...scobey....
i also dont find town overly dangerous, just scobey and a little intimidating. But over run with tracksuit/pyjama wearing horrible scobes.

um7y1h83ge06nx

I thought i'd wade in with my 2 cents.

I grew up in the country in Kerry between Abbeyfeale and Listowel. I'm here in Limerick 8 years now, having moved first here for college in 2001.

Limerick has for an awful long time had a bad rep. However, the vast, vast majority of students come to like Limerick and we often defended the city when people bad-mouthed it. I think people that live in Limerick for a while tend to realise it's not as bad as what people say.

Speaking now, after living here for 8 years, it really isn't a bad place.

However, Limerick does have it's problems. A hardcore, criminal minority tend to really make a negative impact on the city, commiting serious crimes. Sometimes this minority has a louder voice that the decent, law-abiding majority.

As a city centre, Limerick does have a lot of what could be termed "dodgy looking types" walking around during the middle of the day. I'm used to it as I work in town, others however have told me they feel a little intimidated by these people. I must admit there does seem to be an awful lot of these "dodgy looking types" in the city centre in comparison to Cork and Galway for instance.

I'm rambling a little but I think that people in Limerick need to be realistic. Limerick isn't perfect, Limerick isn't a sh*thole. However Limerick could be a better place and we collectively need to figure out how this city could be improved. How we do that, I don't know. I hope that some of the new crime laws may do something.

Kess73

Jessie Yummy Vignette wrote: »

I thought i'd wade in with my 2 cents.

I grew up in the country in Kerry between Abbeyfeale and Listowel. I'm here in Limerick 8 years now, having moved first here for college in 2001.

Limerick has for an awful long time had a bad rep. However, the vast, vast majority of students come to like Limerick and we often defended the city when people bad-mouthed it. I think people that live in Limerick for a while tend to realise it's not as bad as what people say.

Speaking now, after living here for 8 years, it really isn't a bad place.

However, Limerick does have it's problems. A hardcore, criminal minority tend to really make a negative impact on the city, commiting serious crimes. Sometimes this minority has a louder voice that the decent, law-abiding majority.

As a city centre, Limerick does have a lot of what could be termed "dodgy looking types" walking around during the middle of the day. I'm used to it as I work in town, others however have told me they feel a little intimidated by these people. I must admit there does seem to be an awful lot of these "dodgy looking types" in the city centre in comparison to Cork and Galway for instance.

I'm rambling a little but I think that people in Limerick need to be realistic. Limerick isn't perfect, Limerick isn't a sh*thole. However Limerick could be a better place and we collectively need to figure out how this city could be improved. How we do that, I don't know. I hope that some of the new crime laws may do something.

Don't hold your breath on that one. I see Fiannia Fail just voted no to a bill proposed by Fine Gael in relation to people being allowed to use force to defend themselves if someone breaks into their home or workplace rather than having to wait until the scum have broken into your house and attacked you before you can try to get them out.


Yet another bit of stupidity that makes things that bit easier for scum all over Ireland.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Kess73 wrote: »

Don't hold your breath on that one. I see Fiannia Fail just voted no to a bill proposed by Fine Gael in relation to people being allowed to use force to defend themselves if someone breaks into their home or workplace rather than having to wait until the scum have broken into your house and attacked you before you can try to get them out.


Yet another bit of stupidity that makes things that bit easier for scum all over Ireland.

Balls. I read about that and hoped that it would become a reality. Being honest, FG will probably be in power soon enough and with their coalition partners, they could probably get it passed if they want.

Kess73

Jessie Yummy Vignette wrote: »

Balls. I read about that and hoped that it would become a reality. Being honest, FG will probably be in power soon enough and with their coalition partners, they could probably get it passed if they want.

Yeah it would have made sense to have had the bill passed into law. But I don't see them in power anytime soon though, that other shower will cling onto their positions and try to hang on until things calm down politically, and then I expect the people of Ireland to vote FF back in again with lots of "ah sure, better the devil you know" type crap.


Mind you, that magician's grandfather being beaten into a coma in his own house by robbers may cause enough attention to be drawn to the subject that FF may find their hand forced to act.


The other flip side is we had two high profile murders in Limerick that had promises of new laws being fast tracked on the back of them. Something that Willie O'Dea used to get himself into the paper with as he normally does, and nothing has really followed up on from there.

D-A-V-E

ill tell you what Limericks problim is, were being ignored.

look at transport 21..limerick had absolutely nothing to do with this plan, yet places like dublin,cork galway, waterford and even athlone if i remember correctly had benifitted from this, our health system apparently is sorteed out up in galway, our post is sorted down in cork..closers of ennis and tipp hospitals means more pressure on the regional which is packed to the limit, roumers st johns a&e will close meaning the regional hospital will now serve a catchment area of about 300,000.
more recently limerick was not included in the fast tracking scheme for the dole eventhough per head of population we have the highest rate of people on the live regester..we had to fight and argur in order to get it..the greater limerick area is governed by 3 local authorities, clare, limerick county and limerick city council because a few people are too stobbern to extend the boundary which means were seen as a smaller city than we really are..

why does the third biggest city in ireland have to fight for everything other cities are getting that we really need?
i could go on about the different ways were being ignored..i bet you didnt know Limerick city has the smallest fleet of busses, waterford have more busses per head of population than limerick..how is all this fair?

Liam79

D-A-V-E wrote: »

ill tell you what Limericks problim is, were being ignored.

look at transport 21..limerick had absolutely nothing to do with this plan, yet places like dublin,cork galway, waterford and even athlone if i remember correctly had benifitted from this, our health system apparently is sorteed out up in galway, our post is sorted down in cork..closers of ennis and tipp hospitals means more pressure on the regional which is packed to the limit, roumers st johns a&e will close meaning the regional hospital will now serve a catchment area of about 300,000.
more recently limerick was not included in the fast tracking scheme for the dole eventhough per head of population we have the highest rate of people on the live regester..we had to fight and argur in order to get it..the greater limerick area is governed by 3 local authorities, clare, limerick county and limerick city council because a few people are too stobbern to extend the boundary which means were seen as a smaller city than we really are..

why does the third biggest city in ireland have to fight for everything other cities are getting that we really need?
i could go on about the different ways were being ignored..i bet you didnt know Limerick city has the smallest fleet of busses, waterford have more busses per head of population than limerick..how is all this fair?

It cant always be someone elses fault tho Dave....what did Athlone and Waterford do to get preferenetial treatment....they must have put in a better pitch for these services....i mean do people seriously think the govt are saying "ah sure feck limerick, who needs em" ??!! Blame the local politicians, not the Govt as a whole..... we cant ALWAYS blame the "Dublin Govt"

And sure even with more buses etc we would still have just as many scobes infesting town!!

Mr E

Thread renamed to something less dramatic. I'll remove old thread title tonight.

Liam79

Mr E wrote: »

Thread renamed to something less dramatic. I'll remove old thread title tonight.

Cheers for that Mister E
'Preciate it !

Kess73

Liam79 wrote: »

It cant always be someone elses fault tho Dave....what did Athlone and Waterford do to get preferenetial treatment....they must have put in a better pitch for these services....i mean do people seriously think the govt are saying "ah sure feck limerick, who needs em" ??!! Blame the local politicians, not the Govt as a whole..... we cant ALWAYS blame the "Dublin Govt"

And sure even with more buses etc we would still have just as many scobes infesting town!!

I would agree with that. The local politicians and local authorities are to blame for a lot of what is wrong with Limerick.

I include the gardai in the local autorities bit as we have far more gardai than many places, but hardly see them on the streets.

whatdoicare

schnellimbiss wrote: »

"lock down"?

What a ridiculous statement. The reason town gets quiet after 5.30/6 is because people who work in town don't tend to hang around after finishing work. They go home to their families...

Tell the punters thronging to the pubs and clubs of Limerick City tonight and the people who will be enjoying the city car-free day tomorrow that they should be intimidated...ffs, I've lived in Dublin and Berlin, and depending on what area you are in, both can be far more intimidating than Limerick. I've never had any problems in Limerick City on a night out or after 5.30.

Next thing someone is going to compare Limerick to downtown Kabul or Baghdad. :rolleyes:

You completely missed what I said- It is indeed like lock down- if you are ON YOUR OWN in the city at that time. If you're with a gang of friends it's grand, safety in numbers. I've lived all over the world and I've never felt the need to rush home at 6pm to avoid that unsafe feeling- In Limerick I often feel trapped in my house once 6pm hits. Especially since for a long time I had no car.

Liam79

whatdoicare wrote: »

You completely missed what I said- It is indeed like lock down- if you are ON YOUR OWN in the city at that time. If you're with a gang of friends it's grand, safety in numbers. I've lived all over the world and I've never felt the need to rush home at 6pm to avoid that unsafe feeling- In Limerick I often feel trapped in my house once 6pm hits. Especially since for a long time I had no car.

Its actually a very valid point. Ever notice on a friday or Saturday night in Galway Dublin Cork there is a buzz, the streets are populated and its a jovial atmosphere (for the most part!)
In town on a Friday/Saturday night even around O'Connell St, Cruises St, Robert St, etc its like a dodgy ghost town .... very few people outdoors. As opposed to the day time when the streets are packed. I can imagine that being eerie for females walking alone.

puntosporting

Some people posting on this realy need to pull themselves together and grow a pair absolutly paranoid thread it has to be said!

D-A-V-E

Liam79 wrote: »

Its actually a very valid point. Ever notice on a friday or Saturday night in Galway Dublin Cork there is a buzz, the streets are populated and its a jovial atmosphere (for the most part!)
In town on a Friday/Saturday night even around O'Connell St, Cruises St, Robert St, etc its like a dodgy ghost town .... very few people outdoors. As opposed to the day time when the streets are packed. I can imagine that being eerie for females walking alone.

haha everyone is gone home for their dinner! :pac:

Reaganomical

whatdoicare wrote: »

In Limerick I often feel trapped in my house once 6pm hits.

For crying out loud.

Insect Overlord

schnellimbiss wrote: »

For crying out loud.

Go on...

RonMexico

It is easy to mock somebody who is afraid, especially if you have never been a victim of crime/intimidation yourself.

grenache

Liam79 wrote: »

Its actually a very valid point. Ever notice on a friday or Saturday night in Galway Dublin Cork there is a buzz, the streets are populated and its a jovial atmosphere (for the most part!)

I've tried to enjoy going out in Limerick, but there's just no buzz in the city, nothing compared to Galway or Cork. I get a bad vibe from the place. The scarcity of tourists and multitude of scobe characters hanging around the city centre doesn't exactly make it an enjoyable city to go out in or visit. It doesn't have any nice cafe or bar areas. The choice of pubs is poor if you're looking for a drink that isn't your bog standard Heineken or Bud. The ''choice'' of niteclubs is even worse. I mean Icon, the Sin Bin (which should be renamed the Sardine Tin) and Angel Lane FFS! The only decent club is Trinity Rooms but thats full of pretencious folk and the bouncers there are ignorant pigs. So from a nitetime or tourist point of view, its hard to get excited about Limerick City.