Sarah & Steve

listerdave · 10-09-2009 11:18am #1

There's a new show from the makers of Dan & Becs about a couple from Tallaght starting on RTE2 on Monday...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CI2HiZrVtI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4kFiSvAa0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZtqNxb6Ck

What do people reckon? Car crash or comedy gold?

humanji · 10-09-2009 11:38am

I'm thinking Car Crash. I quite liked Dan & Becs, but can't see myself watching this.

With Dan & Becs you could almost believe that they were really those people. With Sarah & Steve they look like D4 people taking the piss out of skangers, but doing it with terrible accents.

Jip · 10-09-2009 11:56am

Eh, the girl playing Sarah is from Tallaght !

I think it looks quite good from the snippets on youtube.

listerdave · 10-09-2009 12:34pm

Yeah both the actors are from Tallaght and the guy who plays Steve wrote it.

humanji · 10-09-2009 1:28pm

But they are very well spoken, as in they don't have skanger accents. When they were doing Dan & Becs they just had to exaggerate their own accents. With this one they are putting on completely new ones and they just sound like people putting on an accent.

I just get the feeling that they're milking their original idea. It might turn out good, but I honestly can't expect it to.

super_furry · 14-09-2009 9:58pm

Two minutes of it and I've already laughed more than the entire series of Dan and Becs.

Enii · 14-09-2009 9:59pm

The language is a disgrace...... Do they have to say F$&k so much?

super_furry · 14-09-2009 10:00pm

If they want to be accurate - yeah.

Enii · 14-09-2009 10:01pm

I'm switching off...... I find it offensive to be subjected to so much cursing

gazzer · 14-09-2009 10:02pm

I think this is very funny "Lets wreck the bleedin gaff"

humanji · 14-09-2009 10:04pm

Ah that was shìte. It's not a patch on Dan & Becs. I suppose that didn't start off too well and but picked up, so we'll see.

super_furry · 14-09-2009 10:07pm

I thought it was very funny, miles ahead of Dan and Becs, which I couldn't stand.

lostexpectation · 15-09-2009 1:35am

the problem, series two more, money so lets buy new cameras, oops we just lost the credibilty, the guild did this , it was also supposed to a webcam series, like dan and becs partly was, they get to a second series get money to buy shiny news cameras and lose any sense of the roughness that made it believeable

event · 15-09-2009 7:27am

humanji wrote: »

But they are very well spoken, as in they don't have skanger accents. When they were doing Dan & Becs they just had to exaggerate their own accents. With this one they are putting on completely new ones and they just sound like people putting on an accent.

I just get the feeling that they're milking their original idea. It might turn out good, but I honestly can't expect it to.

jesus mate, not everyone in tallaght has the stereotypical skanger accents

believe it or not, some people are actually well spoken

humanji · 15-09-2009 8:49am

What I was trying to say is that in Dan & Becs the accent wasn't that much of a stretch from the actors actual accents. But in this, the accents sound completely like two people pretending to be skangers. It just sounds off.

We'll see how it goes.

AnonoBoy · 15-09-2009 9:31am

humanji wrote: »

What I was trying to say is that in Dan & Becs the accent wasn't that much of a stretch from the actors actual accents. But in this, the accents sound completely like two people pretending to be skangers. It just sounds off.

We'll see how it goes.

Since the actors are both from Tallaght the accents aren't that much of a stretch from their actual accents either.

I've seen a few episodes of this and I think it's warmer and funnier than Dan and Becs - the characters are more likeable.

chin_grin · 15-09-2009 9:54am

I've never watched Dan and Becs, so can't really compare it. But I found myself in a heap laughing at this. Was very well scripted and acted, and yes while the language got a bit over the top it never really bothered me.

It was turbo deadly. :pac:

fisgon · 15-09-2009 10:02am

Laughed out loud a few times, thought the characters were believable and the dialogue is obviously authentic. Can't believe there are still people out there who are offended by 'language'. What country do they live in? This is the way people speak. It's RTE 2 late in the evening, not RTE 1 in the afternoon.

Also, Sarah...turbo-cute!

elshambo · 15-09-2009 10:24am

As one of the resident "RTE are sh**e at comedy brigade"

Thats Turbo Rapid Super Whopper Deadly:o:rolleyes:

Id say it has a short shelf life but will be good craic while it lasts!

As for the language and that
SHOCKING!!!
None of this usin words and the likes, they should do it in mime!:cool:

petes · 15-09-2009 10:29am

I liked it, way more than I did Dan and Becs.

Anyone that gets offended when someone says fcuk at 10:50 p.m. should stick to watching tv before the watershed!

humanji · 15-09-2009 10:50am

elshambo wrote: »

Id say it has a short shelf life but will be good craic while it lasts!

I wouldnt' say that. The fact that each episode is so short keeps everything nice and tight. The format worked really well for Dan & Becs and should do just as well, if not better for this one. With a little luck, this will do well and the creators can go an make bigger and better shows and we'll never have to deal with Baz's Culture Clash or the Byrne Ultimatum again.

Crotchety · 15-09-2009 3:47pm

Fantaschtic Shchow

Enii · 15-09-2009 5:10pm

fisgon wrote: »

This is the way people speak.

I don't speak like this.

I really don't like the way TV programmes normalise cursing and makes it seem as if it is acceptable in day to day life for people to curse in regular conversation with each other.

AnonoBoy · 15-09-2009 5:50pm

Enii wrote: »

I don't speak like this.

I really don't like the way TV programmes normalise cursing and makes it seem as if it is acceptable in day to day life for people to curse in regular conversation with each other.

Cursing in regular conversation is quite acceptable amongst young people from Dublin and indeed from all over Ireland. This show accurately reflects that.

If you take offence at it then I suggest you don't watch it.

But to say that TV programs normalise or cause people to curse is just wrong. Believe me Irish people were cursing in spades long before they saw people saying sh*t, f*ck and boll*cks on TV.

rovert · 15-09-2009 6:06pm

Enii wrote: »

I don't speak like this.

I really don't like the way TV programmes normalise cursing and makes it seem as if it is acceptable in day to day life for people to curse in regular conversation with each other.

Maybe you should get out more :pac:

villager · 15-09-2009 6:11pm

thought it was quite funny in parts will give it another look next weeka nd see how it develops. as for the cursing i am afraid it is just reflective of society as it is now, just listen to conversations going on around you.

Elmo · 15-09-2009 7:15pm

Enii wrote: »

I don't speak like this.

I really don't like the way TV programmes normalise cursing and makes it seem as if it is acceptable in day to day life for people to curse in regular conversation with each other.

I would generally give out about swearing from a scripting point of view and an acting point of veiw but in this case the both pulled it off, as I bearly noticed it and thats what you need. The show goes out at 11pm at night far past the watershed.

It was more enjoyable than Dan and Becs IMO.

Sanjuro · 15-09-2009 8:05pm

The only really decent home-grown comedy as of late is Hardy Bucks. The Office English Class, Dan and Becs and this thing are derivative and desperately unfunny. While the aforementioned Hardy Bucks does have similarities to other shows, at least it's funny. Very very funny.

Crotchety · 15-09-2009 8:07pm

Sarah and Steve is a lot better than Daniel and Becks. The cursing is a part of our country and more importantly a common feature of a Dubliner.

Enii · 15-09-2009 8:36pm

Crotchety wrote: »

The cursing is a part of our country and more importantly a common feature of a Dubliner.

As a Dubliner I have to disagree with you.

Rondolfus · 16-09-2009 12:32am

People have already commented on the accents being "forced". This is certainly true. But the real reason I hate it , is because it reinforces stereotypes... the stereotype being that Irish TV execs cannot spot a decent comedy if it they were smashed in the face with it.

"Hardy Bucks" should get their own series. Its genuine funny Irish comedy. Lets hope they are not forced abroad to be recognised like most of our decent comedians.

We seem to be always left with crap like this, or with idiots like Jason Byrne or Tommy "king of the boggers" Tiernan, while the cream of the crop like Dylan Moran and Dave Allen settle abroad. Shame

Owwmykneecap · 16-09-2009 1:07am

Enii wrote: »

The language is a disgrace...... Do they have to say F$&k so much?

Do you sit by your television waiting to be offended?

humanji · 16-09-2009 8:00am

Enii wrote: »

As a Dubliner I have to disagree with you.

As a Dubliner I'd have to disagree with you. If you knew anyone like Steve you'd hear them swearing constantly. Without the swearing it'd just sound completely fake.

Enii · 16-09-2009 8:25am

humanji wrote: »

As a Dubliner I'd have to disagree with you. If you knew anyone like Steve you'd hear them swearing constantly. Without the swearing it'd just sound completely fake.

Fair enough, I don't hang around with people who curse all the time like this pair from Tallaght. People in my workplace also don't curse. In actual fact I don't come across many people who curse like this in my day to day life.

However, I do remember seeing a group of Irish in (of all places) a Tommy Hilfiger store in a Newark mall cursing away at each other. I don't think I was ever more embarrassed to be Irish as they all "f&8in' agreed how cheap everything was" - as most people know in places like the States you would not hear this amount of cursing in polite company or out in public.

This is my whole point about programmes with this amount of cursing - it legitimises cursing (which really is not acceptable). Judging from all the replies obviously my view is the minority and most people are fine to mouth off (not caring whether is is offensive to people around them).

I switched off this programme after a min or two due to the foul langauge.

Shane10 · 16-09-2009 8:35am

liked dan & becks and this was just as good. prob more laugh out loud funny. defo thumbs up on this.:D

AnonoBoy · 16-09-2009 11:06am

Enii wrote: »

I switched off this programme after a min or two due to the foul langauge.

Yes so we gathered from your first post. You don't like bad language on TV, we get it. Some of us don't mind it.

Do you have any other points about the show?

Rondolfus wrote: »

People have already commented on the accents being "forced". This is certainly true.

I don't believe they are. The two actors are from Tallaght, if anyone is going to get a Tallaght accent right you'd presume it would be two young actors who were born and raised there.

doomedtofail · 16-09-2009 12:28pm

Crotchety wrote: »

Sarah and Steve is a lot better than Daniel and Becks. The cursing is a part of our country and more importantly a common feature of a Dubliner.

Sigh. What a heroically inept and ridiculous generalisation

This was one of the worst thing's I have ever had the misfortune to watch on RTE (includes the Panel)

Awful script, awful language employed when they didn't know what else to put in the characters mouths, awful accents, awful premise

Awful...

Jip · 16-09-2009 12:35pm

So doomedtofail, you found the accents, language and mannerisms unrealistic after the time you spent living in Tallaght for comparison purposes, correct ?

Shane10 · 16-09-2009 12:40pm

doomedtofail wrote: »

Sigh. What a heroically inept and ridiculous generalisation

This was one of the worst thing's I have ever had the misfortune to watch on RTE (includes the Panel)

Awful script, awful language employed when they didn't know what else to put in the characters mouths, awful accents, awful premise

Awful...

this and dan and becs are something good on rte. funny and very well scripted IMO. dave coffey(dan) involved in both. short 10 minute episode so you wont get sick of it.

Crotchety · 16-09-2009 3:39pm

Why do people get so offended by the odd fu*k or cu*t or bas*ard in a sentence. It just goes into the mix and doesn't really mean to much. Soon society - in maybe 10 generations time won't be offended by a dic*head or a cu*t smeller. It's like how women were not allowed to show their legs years ago.

AnonoBoy · 16-09-2009 5:10pm

doomedtofail wrote: »

This was one of the worst thing's I have ever had the misfortune to watch on RTE (includes the Panel)
.

You must never have seen The English Class or The Roaring Twenties then.

I envy you.

Liam Byrne · 16-09-2009 5:22pm

The phrase "from the makers of Dan & Becs" put me right off clicking the links.......that was too ****e for words.....

mewso · 16-09-2009 6:14pm

Didn't laugh once. Mildly amusing at a stretch.

taibhse1966 · 19-09-2009 11:00am

I live and work in Tallaght - bring my kids up here, I was cringing at the thoughts of what this was going to be like, I thought it was absolutely hilarious, honest and real to many young people in Tallaght - after your woman who is also I believe living in Tallaght - Catherine something who had a sketch show and the way she portrayed Tallaght I am always fearful of what way people from Tallaght are going to be put across. I was pleasantly surprised and am looking forward to the next episode - I hope they can keep up the momentum.

podge018 · 19-09-2009 12:03pm

Katherine Lynch's characters are caricatures, far-fetched comedy stereotypes. Sarah and Steve is a doc-u-soap so the characters need to be grounded in reality. It does neither justice to compare them.