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Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii (all discussion here please)
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Slight disagreement there, I'd recommend a 360 for casual players due to the number and variety of games on XBLA plus the potential for Kinect in the future.jaykhunter wrote: »Honestly if you're a FPS junkie then you'll be very happy with an Xbox. But if you're a new/casual gamer I'd highly recommend a PS3.
The rest is mostly spot on though, minus the technical foibles.
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lol, completely forgot about kinect/move. Can't say i'd recommend either, I begrudgingly play Wii games with motion control (like Metroid : Other M, platformers and Zelda could all be easily played without motion control
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Gotta try give the PS3 fans something, their console is two years newer tech after all
Are there any big XBLA or PSN exclusives to mention?0 -
On the XBLA side we have:jaykhunter wrote: »lol, completely forgot about kinect/move. Can't say i'd recommend either, I begrudgingly play Wii games with motion control (like Metroid : Other M, platformers and Zelda could all be easily played without motion control)
Gotta try give the PS3 fans something, their console is two years newer tech after all
Are there any big XBLA or PSN exclusives to mention?
Shadow Complex, Limbo, Super Meat Boy, Trials HD, Splosion Man, Rez HD, Ikaruga, ilomilo, Perfect Dark HD, Geometry Wars, South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, The Maw, Lucidity, N+, Comic Jumper and The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom
Upcoming games include:
Fez, Radiant Silvergun, Torchlight, Ms. Splosion Man, Bangai-O HD, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Retro City Rampage and The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile.
On the PSN:
Echochrome, Joe Danger, Flower, The PixelJunk series, Super Stardust HD, Wipeout HD, Burn Zombie Burn, Crash Commando, Fat Princess, fl0w, Gravity Crash, Lumines Supernova and Pain.
Upcoming games include:
More Pixeljunk games and Tetris anyway, not sure about many others.
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On the XBLA side we have:
Shadow Complex, Limbo, Super Meat Boy, Trials HD, Splosion Man, Rez HD, Ikaruga, ilomilo, Perfect Dark HD, Geometry Wars, South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, The Maw, Lucidity, N+, Comic Jumper and The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom
Upcoming games include:
Fez, Radiant Silvergun, Torchlight, Ms. Splosion Man, Bangai-O HD, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Retro City Rampage and The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile.
On the PSN:
Echochrome, Joe Danger, Flower, The PixelJunk series, Super Stardust HD, Wipeout HD, Burn Zombie Burn, Crash Commando, Fat Princess, fl0w, Gravity Crash, Lumines Supernova and Pain.
Upcoming games include:
More Pixeljunk games and Tetris anyway, not sure about many others.
I have the Wii and PS3 and i have to ask how many of those games have been on the PC for ages and also as indie?
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Giving the fact that the user is trying to make an informed decision I feel the need to call out some of this stuff...:o
Mostly untrue, the 360 has the lead in multiplatform games which means outside of the exclusives, the vast majority of games will be better on the 360. In terms of exclusives it does have more big names however given that most people's library will include a large number of non-exclusives, this needs to be balanced out. Finally no, it is not "in general" a more stable console, that's complete rubbish and is only mildly true if you own a first generation 360 which does not apply to the OP.Considering you're not reallly interested in online gaming, i see no point in going for the xbox over the PS3 (Besides it being cheaper). In terms of games available the PS3 has the edge in almost every catagory, it has more big name exclusives and is in general a more stable console.
Larger capacity bluray drives mean two things to the end user, no more disc swapping and the chance that the developer will put higher quality cut scenes on the disc. It has no bearing on the quality of games outside of this during this generation. For the record, none of the above games "aren't possible" on the 360 bar MGS4 as it stands due the uncompressed audio and pre-rendered video found on the disc. In terms of the actual game, they'd be practically the same. If anything, Killzone 3's deferred rendering engine benefits the PS3 architecture more but that's not something you'll see in many games for a variety of reasons.Blue ray = no mutliple disk games and also allows developers to develope much more complex games that simply arent possible on the 360 (Uncharted 2, God of War, MGS4 etc)
I pulled another user up on the exclusives list for the 360 earlier in the thread so I won't do it again. Suffice to say it is of course true the PS3 is getting more of them this year however the 360 list is by no means as short as just Gears and maybe a Halo game.This year there are a huge number of exclusives coming out for the PS3, while the only games that you'd really be missing out on would be Gears of war and a possible halo game. *Jay left out quite a few BIG exclusives for the PS3
Completely true, the Bluray player is a great addition, assuming you play on using it. As a streaming device, well without a PC serving content to it, the PS3 wins however with a PC serving it the 360 isn't too far behind. Again it will depend on what you want to watch on it. In the context of built in services, the PS3 will allow you to watch RTEPlayer and (I think) 4oD.The PS3 is also a much better media system with bluray support and you can use the streaming TV stuff (Im not too familar with it but apparently its good, RTE player or something)
The free PSN will indeed allow you to dip into online gaming but as said before, if you want to get into it then you'll find XBL will serve you better once you start to build up a friends list.And if you ever feel like reaching out to the online gaming community, you have a great (Just because its not as good as xbox live does not make it any less great) FREE online service.
No it hasn't, in terms of the big games for both platform they're actually neck and neck. The difference in the future is most Kinect games will be tailor made for the peripheral whereas most Move games will be normal games which will be "Move-enabled". TGS also showed off some great looking core Kinect games for the 360 whereas at the moment Move games seem to be more limited to support for normal games like Killzone 3 and SOCOM which are games which you'd be better off playing with the controller anyway.Also, the PSMove has generally been getting better reviews than the Kinect if you interested in that sort of thing.
Of that list you'd have Super Meat Boy, Trials 2, Geometry Wars, The Maw, Torchlight, Lucidity and and The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom from the 360 out on PC at the moment. Lumines is out now and Joe Danger will be hitting the PC soon too according to the devs.I have the Wii and PS3 and i have to ask how many of those games have been on the PC for ages and also as indie?
As the OP said though, he's interested in what games are out on the consoles, not the PC.
In terms of 360 racing exclusives you'd have the Forza and PGR series, both of which should be getting new iterations soon. Outside of those you have the rest of the multi-platform releases such as DIRT 2, GRID, Need For Speed: Hot Persuit, Blur, Split/Second and F1 2010.GT_TDI_150 wrote: »My major weekness is driving games: WRC, F1, GTA, Need For Speed, ...
I only know the PS ones as I have the PS2 currently and the brother in law has a PS3, what is the XBOX like of driving games?
I can't really comment on the GT5 vs. Forza issue as I'm more of an arcade racing fan myself but going by the reviews it's pretty damn close. Added to that is the fact that we'll probably see Forza 4 in the next year or so which will bring the two series even closer.
An important point to note though, the PS3 will have wider range of racing wheels available for it so that's certainly something to consider if you're into that. As for which pad is better, well if the game uses the triggers for acceleration and breaking then it'd be the 360 which would be widely considered better due to the god-****ing-awful triggers on the PS3 pad. 0 -
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Stable is a ridiculous word to use though, if you mean reliable then you have a point regarding the older models of course. When comparing the Slim versions of both consoles though reliability doesn't really come into it anymore.Whatever about the 360s getting more reliable as time went on , I don't know how you can possibly disagree with the statement that the PS3 is more stable.
Heh.WolfForager wrote: »Hate to say it Gizmo, but you sure get very defensive about the 360 :P
I'd like to think I add balance to a discussion like this and disagree with anything radical or untrue either side has to say. The OP is trying to make an informed decision and will be shelling out a couple of hundred quid on one of the consoles so comments like "X wins hands down" and "Y has better graphics" help no one. 0 -
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I have both. The PS3 with blu ray allows for higher quality textures to be streamed direct from the disc, compared with the heavy compression required for the xbox. This is fairly evident in comparissons of major titles. Look at the texturing in Alan wake on the xbox (low quality) compared with Uncharted
2 for example.
-I rarely use my PS3 but it has crashed twice, my Xbox has never crashed and it's two years old. Seems to vary though.GT_TDI_150 wrote: »- Will either console crash(more often than the other),
- Is there any difference between them in driving games,
- is it easy to get used to the xbox controllers if used to the PS ones,
- no interest in blurays, so will ordinary DVD's play on both consoles,
- can both consoles play videos/music from an extrenal source(HD/USB),
- can you use them to go onto the internet(ie google, hotmail, ...) - if so does this require a config change on the router?
- which was better graphics/speed,
- does either console have any extra features over the other(excluding bluray, aware of this by now;))
- can you load the games onto the console in both cases to speed up loading the games?
-I like Forza, PS3 has GT5 though. For non-exclusives Xbox generally looks better.
-Yep, Xbox controllers are much more comfortable IMO.
-Yes.
-PS3 has a browser though it's quite poor, Xbox hasn't but does have Facebook and twitter and MSN built it.
-For games on both consoles the Xbox looks better ~90% of the time.
-The rest should've been covered by now.
-Yes with the Xbox, yes-ish with the PS3. You can install any game on the Xbox if you want, some PS3 games insist on full installs, some insist on partial installations. Loading times seem to be about the same on average on both consoles.0 -
GT_TDI_150 wrote: »This is getting confusing for me, all I want to know is ...
- Will either console crash(more often than the other),
No - Is there any difference between them in driving games,
ps3 supports most wheels and has gt5, 360 has better triggers on the pad for driving games. - is it easy to get used to the xbox controllers if used to the PS ones,
yes - no interest in blurays, so will ordinary DVD's play on both consoles,
yes - can both consoles play videos/music from an extrenal source(HD/USB),
yes - can you use them to go onto the internet(ie google, hotmail, ...) - if so does this require a config change on the router?
ps3 only - which was better graphics/speed,
depends on game/opinion - does either console have any extra features over the other(excluding bluray, aware of this by now;))
free online/xbl etc. etc. (google) - can you load the games onto the console in both cases to speed up loading the games?
yes
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-I rarely use my PS3 but it has crashed twice, my Xbox has never crashed and it's two years old. Seems to vary though.
-I like Forza, PS3 has GT5 though. For non-exclusives Xbox generally looks better.
-Yep, Xbox controllers are much more comfortable IMO.
-Yes.
-PS3 has a browser though it's quite poor, Xbox hasn't but does have Facebook and twitter and MSN built it.
-For games on both consoles the Xbox looks better ~90% of the time.
-The rest should've been covered by now.
-Yes with the Xbox, yes-ish with the PS3. You can install any game on the Xbox if you want, some PS3 games insist on full installs, some insist on partial installations. Loading times seem to be about the same on average on both consoles.
thanks, you have one 'yes', not sure which Q it covers:- no interest in blurays, so will ordinary DVD's play on both consoles,
- can both consoles play videos/music from an extrenal source(HD/USB)
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Well I assume we're talking about practical implementation so yes, the bluray drive could be home to a greater number of higher res textures but because they're not usable it doesn't really matter.Technically that's right (not the game comparison) but even with the larger amount of space for content the PS3 would not be able to use it to give what your suggesting. If you had a PS3 with a DVD drive only and one with a Blu ray then that would allow for better looking games. If you take it in regard to pre rendered video then this is fully true but still not in the way you are suggesting.
Don't forget to give props to Sony's ICE team who are also based in the Santa Monica offices. Those guys are responsible for creating some of the core technologies for both Sony's worldwide studios and third party developers.The Uncharted games are the best looking games on any console because Naughty Dog are ****ing genius.
If you want any points expanded on but they're the concise answers for now.GT_TDI_150 wrote: »This is getting confusing for me, all I want to know is ...- Will either console crash(more often than the other),
No. - Is there any difference between them in driving games,
PS3 has the Gran Turismo series.
360 has the Forza and PGR series.
Outside of them, the rest of the racing games out are multi-platform. - is it easy to get used to the xbox controllers if used to the PS ones,
Yes. - no interest in blurays, so will ordinary DVD's play on both consoles,
Yes. - can both consoles play videos/music from an extrenal source(HD/USB),
Yes. - can you use them to go onto the internet(ie google, hotmail, ...) - if so does this require a config change on the router?
Only the PS3 has a built-in browser. - which was better graphics/speed,
Each console has their pros and cons on the tech side. My advice would be to not worry about this and concentrate on the games available for both. - does either console have any extra features over the other(excluding bluray, aware of this by now;))
Not really. The only other features I can think of are the ability to upgrade the hard drive in the PS3 with any 2.5" drive you like and the fact that the PS3 controllers can be charged via the USB cable rather than needing to buy the Play & Charge kit for the 360. - can you load the games onto the console in both cases to speed up loading the games?
Every game can be installed to the 360 for improved loading times.
Only some games on the PS3 have this option.
0 - Will either console crash(more often than the other),
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