Higher level Francais

ThatWouldBeNice

What is everyone looking at in terms of the topical reaction section? Racism, environment, recession etc? If anyone could post up and vocab they have on the dangers of underage drinking, drugs etc, that'd be great.

Not too worried about the paper, to be honest. The oral went okay already, and the comprehensions are normally fine. Just a bit worried about the reaction pieces. :mad:

rcaz

Yeah, the reaction pieces are defo the hardest part. Isn't it kinda tipped that La Crise Financiere will make an appearance? And the usual stuff, solidarite, la drogue, la tabagisme, les jeunes, la celebrite?

(Sorry for lack of accents)

marshmallow

super.. I asked my teacher to go over vocab on money & recession and bitta politics & Barack, course we didn't..

ice_cream

Anyone know anywhere good to get vocab on the recession...we never did it!

aine-maire

ice_cream wrote: »

Anyone know anywhere good to get vocab on the recession...we never did it!

+1

QueenOfLeon

ice_cream wrote: »

Anyone know anywhere good to get vocab on the recession...we never did it!

I'm feeling fabulously genereuse and i need to get into the *French Zone*

La recession economique:
La crise economique en Irlande actuellement atteint un niveau critique a mes yeux. Il est impossible de nos jours d'allumer la tele ou d'ouvrir le journal quotidien sans entendre parler de la recession. Elle fait toujours la une. On ne peut pas s'y echapper.

Le taux de chomage est un augmentation constante et a l'heure actualle un sur dix est sans emploi en Irlande.

Le valeur des maisons tombe chaque jour et l'industrie de construction est morte.

Les banques principales refusent maintenant de preter de l'argent et on n'arrive plus a s'acheter une maison.

Des milleurs de shoppeurs traversent la frontiere chaque jout pour faire les achats comme les prix au sud sont trop eleves.

Que faut-il faire?
Il faut que le gouvernement agisse avant qu'il ne soit trop tard.
Il faut elever les impots.
Il faut punir severement ces banquires negligents qui ont entraine ce crise.

Sorry for the lack of accents They're just the main points, you can just expand on them with general phrases etc

Hope it helps

haloauto

Here's some phrases for L'Irlande Contemporaine/ La Crise économique

Le gouvernement devrait soutenir les enterprises financièrement pour que le chômage n'augmente pas.

Le governement devrait combattre la crise économique plus activement.

La crise économique est un réel desastre pour le pays.

Le pays est au point mort depuis début de l'année.

Beaucoup de personnes se retrouvent au chômage / sans emploi.

Certains se retrouvent à la rue sans rien / ils perdent tout.

Tous les efforts d'une vie réduis à néant / en miettes/ anéantis.

Les économies de la population fondent comme neige au soleil.

Si j'étais chef d'Etat, je ferais le nécessaire pour que les industries continuent de se développer.

Je donnerais un coup de pouce aux petites compagnies.

Je mettrais plus en valeur le patrimnie nationale.

Red Crow

Not being funny guys but in fairness if your desperate for French this late take the OL paper. High risk of failing French if you don't know your stuff.

MrSnuffleupagus

Kurtza wrote: »

Not being funny guys but in fairness if your desperate for French this late take the OL paper. High risk of failing French if you don't know your stuff.

Comprehensions and the aural should get you by though... Right? I'm fairly average at the production ecrite section...

Signature

Kurtza wrote: »

Not being funny guys but in fairness if your desperate for French this late take the OL paper. High risk of failing French if you don't know your stuff.

I disagree. 3% of people fail HL french.

xOxSinéadxOx

I disagree too, I did sooo bad in the written stuff in the mock and I still got 60%, am I bit worried though cos I did crap in the oral

Casok

http://www.sceolan.com/forum/viewforum.php?forum_id=239

It's F*CKIN CLASS!! From a gaeltacht teacher tho but its all in french anyway so doesnt matter :P

rcaz

How is everyone approaching the written stuff? Learning sentences/paragraphs off? Learning grammar and vocab and just writing on the day like in English?

I'm going for a mix. I can write pretty confidently, I'm gonna learn a few more 'stock phrases', stuff like subjunctives and all. I usually try to show off pronouns and use passe compose and imperfect stuff.

What's the general concensus?

lorna100

can anyone put up phrases for the journal intime?
I'm preparing role of women, racism and the recession

another q: in the journal intime I was told to do two accounts, expressing a change of mood between the two. is that right?

Skylinehead

Kurtza wrote: »

Not being funny guys but in fairness if your desperate for French this late take the OL paper. High risk of failing French if you don't know your stuff.

Shirley the oral, worth 25%, and the aural, and decent comprehensions should get you by? The comprehensions, IIRC, are worth more (120) than the written stuff (100).

LivingDeadGirl

I'll do a bit of both like yourself I'd say. Thanks for the recession stuff lads *yoink* How about some problems of society stuff? My teacher is useless, she gives us handouts on stuff like the loft(french BB) and weird racism poems? Not exactly helpful. I'm almost the only person in a class of 26 who isn't getting grinds!

imfreein09

does anyone want to help me.. im dead for tomo., where shoud i start im a weak student lik got 48 in my mocks please some genuine advice or if you could send me topics or post up stuff.. thanks

predominanantly

Is there anywhere to get the answers for the listening past papers? I'm practicing now.. seeing as I haven't actually practiced since the mock and I'd like to check.

Fluorescence

You can get the marking schemes at www.examinations.ie which has the answers (obviously) in them lol!

Anyone know how much we're ACTUALLY required to write for the opinion pieces? They say 90words and 75 words but I think we all know that's a lie :rolleyes:

TheCardHolder

Anyone have anything on the internet or the dangers of it?

I've been asking for it in vain for the past week:pac::pac:

Skylinehead

fluorescence wrote: »

You can get the marking schemes at www.examinations.ie which has the answers (obviously) in them lol!

Anyone know how much we're ACTUALLY required to write for the opinion pieces? They say 90words and 75 words but I think we all know that's a lie :rolleyes:

Try 100 words each, should be fine.

QueenOfLeon

Kurtza wrote: »

Not being funny guys but in fairness if your desperate for French this late take the OL paper. High risk of failing French if you don't know your stuff.

Oral = 25%
Aural = 20%
Comprehensions = 30%
Journal Intime/Letter = 7.5%

Adds up to 82.5%, without any knowledge on the recession or drugs or whatever else. If you're in trouble with the written expression theres still no reason not to pass

LivingDeadGirl

fluorescence wrote: »

You can get the marking schemes at www.examinations.ie which has the answers (obviously) in them lol!

Anyone know how much we're ACTUALLY required to write for the opinion pieces? They say 90words and 75 words but I think we all know that's a lie :rolleyes:

Well I wouldn't write much more than that or else you'll be penalised.

electriks

Anne-Marie!! wrote: »

I'm feeling fabulously genereuse and i need to get into the *French Zone*

La recession economique:
La crise economique en Irlande actuellement atteint un niveau critique a mes yeux. Il est impossible de nos jours d'allumer la tele ou d'ouvrir le journal quotidien sans entendre parler de la recession. Elle fait toujours la une. On ne peut pas s'y echapper.

Le taux de chomage est un augmentation constante et a l'heure actualle un sur dix est sans emploi en Irlande.

Le valeur des maisons tombe chaque jour et l'industrie de construction est morte.


Les banques principales refusent maintenant de preter de l'argent et on n'arrive plus a s'acheter une maison.

Des milleurs de shoppeurs traversent la frontiere chaque jout pour faire les achats comme les prix au sud sont trop eleves.

Que faut-il faire?
Il faut que le gouvernement agisse avant qu'il ne soit trop tard.
Il faut elever les impots.
Il faut punir severement ces banquires negligents qui ont entraine ce crise.

Sorry for the lack of accents They're just the main points, you can just expand on them with general phrases etc

Hope it helps

If ur still on line thanks v much. tes phrases sont fantastique. merci beaucoup:)

Teacher 28

Hi everyone - I'm a French Teacher.

Good luck to everyone but guys - be careful. Pupils always learn off lttle essays, but looking at past papers... anything can come up. Drugs, Racsim etc rarely come up. Have a bank of phrases:

Je suis d'accord avec cette affirmation = I agree with this statement

X est un gros probleme de nos jours = X is a big prob. nowadays

Tout le monde sait que X est un fléau aujourd'hui = Everyone knows X is a scourge today

Make ur essay PERSONAL ... Je, je, je!! Pretend you suffer from the problem or you bro / sis!! ... Je suis accro a la drogue = i'm addicted ..

Qu'est-ce qu'on peut faire pour résoudre le probleme? = Solution?

Tout d'abord, le gouvernement DEVRAIT faire quelquechose = 1st of all, the govt ought to do s/thing

Il faut introduire une nouvelle loi = must intro. a new law

Good luck all.

QueenOfLeon

electriks wrote: »

If ur still on line thanks v much. tes phrases sont fantastique. merci beaucoup:)

Yup, im still here! I'd thank my teacher, she is such a star
Any other topic ya want, so i can pretend to be studying french while browsing boards?!

QueenOfLeon

Teacher 28 wrote: »

Hi everyone - I'm a French Teacher.

Make ur essay PERSONAL ... Je, je, je!! Pretend you suffer from the problem or you bro / sis!! ... Je suis accro a la drogue = i'm addicted ..

Ha! I love that!

Thanks

lorna100

Teacher 28 wrote: »

Hi everyone - I'm a French Teacher.

Good luck to everyone but guys - be careful. Pupils always learn off lttle essays, but looking at past papers... anything can come up. Drugs, Racsim etc rarely come up. Have a bank of phrases:

Je suis d'accord avec cette affirmation = I agree with this statement

X est un gros probleme de nos jours = X is a big prob. nowadays

Tout le monde sait que X est un fléau aujourd'hui = Everyone knows X is a scourge today

Make ur essay PERSONAL ... Je, je, je!! Pretend you suffer from the problem or you bro / sis!! ... Je suis accro a la drogue = i'm addicted ..

Qu'est-ce qu'on peut faire pour résoudre le probleme? = Solution?

Tout d'abord, le gouvernement DEVRAIT faire quelquechose = 1st of all, the govt ought to do s/thing

Il faut introduire une nouvelle loi = must intro. a new law

Good luck all.

thanks!
for the journal intime i was told to do two different entries, showing a change of mood between them. Is that what you would recommend? Only decided to do the journal intime yesterday and am a bit lost with it. thanks

mink_man

Teacher 28 wrote: »

Hi everyone - I'm a French Teacher.

Good luck to everyone but guys - be careful. Pupils always learn off lttle essays, but looking at past papers... anything can come up. Drugs, Racsim etc rarely come up. Have a bank of phrases:

Je suis d'accord avec cette affirmation = I agree with this statement

X est un gros probleme de nos jours = X is a big prob. nowadays

Tout le monde sait que X est un fléau aujourd'hui = Everyone knows X is a scourge today

Make ur essay PERSONAL ... Je, je, je!! Pretend you suffer from the problem or you bro / sis!! ... Je suis accro a la drogue = i'm addicted ..

Qu'est-ce qu'on peut faire pour résoudre le probleme? = Solution?

Tout d'abord, le gouvernement DEVRAIT faire quelquechose = 1st of all, the govt ought to do s/thing

Il faut introduire une nouvelle loi = must intro. a new law

Good luck all.

2 posts since june 2008!
the teacher only comes out of the ward drobe once a year before the french exam to offer advice!:p

9wetfckx43j5rg

Teacher 28 wrote: »

Hi everyone - I'm a French Teacher.

Good luck to everyone but guys - be careful. Pupils always learn off lttle essays, but looking at past papers... anything can come up. Drugs, Racsim etc rarely come up. Have a bank of phrases:

Je suis d'accord avec cette affirmation = I agree with this statement

X est un gros probleme de nos jours = X is a big prob. nowadays

Tout le monde sait que X est un fléau aujourd'hui = Everyone knows X is a scourge today

Make ur essay PERSONAL ... Je, je, je!! Pretend you suffer from the problem or you bro / sis!! ... Je suis accro a la drogue = i'm addicted ..

Qu'est-ce qu'on peut faire pour résoudre le probleme? = Solution?

Tout d'abord, le gouvernement DEVRAIT faire quelquechose = 1st of all, the govt ought to do s/thing

Il faut introduire une nouvelle loi = must intro. a new law

Good luck all.

Thank you very much.

I was listening to countdown on 306 and we are penalised ie marks taken away instead of just not being given, for answering questions such as those on the comprehensions wrongly.

I read the last Chief Examiners report on French and the commen theme throughout was saying a lot of students didnt get a lot of marks because they tried to put in material they had learned off that wasn't relevant.

It said you will easily get marks for bad grammer, but a relevant spontaneous answer instead of a obivously pre planned answer that isn't strictly relevant.

LivingDeadGirl

Does this have any grammatical mistakes? j'adhère totalement avec cet point de vue

Sorry, it's been a LONG time since I've done any French

electriks

AHHHH! French HL tomorrow

what's supposed to come up in the reaction?? i'm hearing recession and internet. that right?

mink_man

yes, that is defo coming up! dont learn anything else!

Fringe

lorna100 wrote: »

thanks!
for the journal intime i was told to do two different entries, showing a change of mood between them. Is that what you would recommend? Only decided to do the journal intime yesterday and am a bit lost with it. thanks

Sounds a bit too complicated... Just write whatever you're told to write and use some good French.

Fluorescence

mink_man wrote: »

yes, that is defo coming up! dont learn anything else!

There is no way you can say that anything is definitely going to appear on the HL french paper! ANYTHING can come up, there's no patterns to the papers at all.

Teacher 28

I'd definitely answer diary - way easier than letter / e mail.

Diary vocab:

Je suis épuisé (e) = exhuasted

Devine! = Guess what!

Devine ce que s'est passé aujourd'hui = Guess what happened today

En lisant le journal, j'ai découvert que = while reading paper, i learned that


Quel dommage = what a pity

Quelle chance = what luck!

Quelle ma;lchance = what bad luck

Quel cauchemar = what a nightmare!

Quel soulagement = what a relief! ...... all these v effective in diary!!

Je ne m'entends pas avec ... i don't get on with

Je me suis rendu compte que = i realised that

J'ai entendu que - i heard that

J'ai gagné = i won

J'ai perdu = i lost

J'ai lu = i raed

J'ai vu = i saw

Ca me fache = it angers me ( the letter 'a' has ^ over it!!)

Je me sens = i feel .... je me sens isolé (e) = lonely

Ca y est pour aujourd'hui = that's it for today

electriks

could racism really come up cause i no nothing 4 it. is there like a good chance of it?:(

Risteard

If you get an e-mail, do you have to put in the e-mail address at the top or can you just start writing?

mink_man

ya, but you dont have to do it! you have a choice!

tazbars

lorna100 wrote: »

can anyone put up phrases for the journal intime?
I'm preparing role of women, racism and the recession

another q: in the journal intime I was told to do two accounts, expressing a change of mood between the two. is that right?

doubt the role of women will be up, something very similar came up last year

DDC1990

lorna100 wrote: »

thanks!
for the journal intime i was told to do two different entries, showing a change of mood between them. Is that what you would recommend? Only decided to do the journal intime yesterday and am a bit lost with it. thanks

Not as far as I know. It says A diary entry, not Diary entries.
Therefor it should just be one entry.

However Im useless at french yet still have better french then our teacher.
The only reason Im able to do HL is because, I've been to france the last few summers and I still remember the basics we were thought by the good teacher in 2nd year!!!

electriks

so anyone else got helpful vocab?? like on d dangers of internet or anything.

please help.
seriously desperate here!!
:eek::(

mink_man

Risteard wrote: »

If you get an e-mail, do you have to put in the e-mail address at the top or can you just start writing?

Á:
De:
Date:
Sujet:

fill in these then write away!

mink_man

electriks wrote: »

so anyone else got helpful vocab?? like on d dangers of internet or anything.

please help.
seriously desperate here!!
:eek::(

if it comes up, you dont have to do it! CALM DOWN!

Sean_Ludawg

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

Well I wouldn't write much more than that or else you'll be penalised.

Good luck with that one.....

Risteard

mink_man wrote: »

Á:
De:
Date:
Sujet:

fill in these then write away!

Thank you, just stuff like that I'm unsure of. I'm just going over some verbs and vocab now.

Teacher 28

You're all intelligent people to get this far - take a deep breath and please don't focus on the negative things.

Comprehensions: Ur answer must fit ON THE SPACE given!! If u don't know how to manipulate, then quote directly from text - you'd only lose one mark!

Opinion Q:

Q1 is compulsory - usually hardest - use simple, correct Frecnh - that's all examiners want, i guarantee u!

Q2: Definitely do Diary Q - see my earlier post with sample phrases

Then u only have one more Q to do!!

Someone asked about LE RACISME: Just learn phrases...

Le racisme est un gros probleme de nos jours = big prob

Tout le monde est égal malgré leur apparance, qu'ils soient noirs ou blancs, catholiques ou hindous = Everyones is equal, despite ...whether they are ...

Mon ami est victime du racisme. Je me sens vraiment faché (e) parce qu'elle est sympa mais des irlandais ont des vues étroits =

I feel really angry ... irish are narrow minded

Qu'est-ce qu'om peut faire pour résoudre le probleme?

1. Le gouvernement DEVRAIT faire quelquechoe: introduire une nouvelle loi en ce qui concerne le racisme pour aider les victimes

= the govt OUGHT to do something: intro. a new law regarding ....

2. Tout le monde DEVRAIT etre plus ouvert = Everybody ought to be open minded

Jay P

You don't get any marks for the layout of the email, unlike the formal letter, so it shouldn't be too hard to get marks. I'm not really looking forward to tomory... Maybe I'll do alright, I've been lucky so far!

Twilighter

I don't think there is a proper layout, is there?
All I've been doing is writing 'Ma Chambre, 2h et demi' or something on the top right, starting with 'Cher Journal' and just ending saying 'Ca y est pour aujourd'hui' or something..

I hope there's no correct layout anyway! Anyone know if there is?

AJ6000

can anyone tell me why there is a 'ne' in this phrase:

avant qu'il ne soit trop tard.

its one of anne maries phrases from a few pages ago and im not sure why its in there??

Fluorescence

ne...trop is one of those negatives, but I can't remember exactly what it means.

Ne---que is only
ne....rien is nothing
ne---jamais is never
ne...personne is no-one
ne--ni...ni is neither.....nor....

There's more but I'm too tired to think. I'm sure you know em