Poker Mods getting free entry to €3,500 Irish Open

nicnicnic

I was of the impression that MODS on these forums were supposed to be unpaid and impartial. The MODS on the poker forum are gaining free entry to Ireland's premier poker tournament which boasts a €3,500 entry. How can they be trusted to carry out there future duties to the average poker forum member in an unprejudiced manner when there receiving such a large payment in kind from a huge player in the Irish poker scene. Personally I find this disclosure quiet disturbing. I cant even start a thread about it on the poker forum; I've tried twice and they have mysteriously disappeared on both occasions.

aya14

An outrage. Revolt!

Bubs101

I don't want to start a new thread but poker really should be a sub section of gambling

CHD

No wonder PP reps get away with mis-leading advertising.

nicnicnic

Bubs101 wrote: »

I don't want to start a new thread but poker really should be a sub section of gambling

no you should start a new thread

aya14

Bubs101 wrote: »

I don't want to start a new thread but poker really should be a sub section of gambling

Imo gambling should be a sub-section of poker.

dannydiamond

I received a one week ban from the poker forum yesterday when I made a query about a problem I had with the major player in question. I was a bit taken aback and thought the ban very harsh but its becoming clear why I was banned now.

Bubs101

Eh, I just wanted to see Jennifer Tily lads, no need for a witch hunt

nicnicnic

dannydiamond wrote: »

I received a one week ban from the poker forum yesterday when I made a query about a problem I had with the major player in question. I was a bit taken aback and thought the ban very harsh but its becoming clear why I was banned now.

Exactly what I feared would happen, Its all been kept very hush hush by the clique but hopefully we can get this type of stuff monitored.

javaboy

The Soccer mods will be getting the FAI Advantage Seats next. I wish the forum I mod had some commercial interest so I could be a sell-out too.

cHaTbOx

javaboy wrote: »

The Soccer mods will be getting the FAI Advantage Seats next. I wish the forum I mod had some commercial interest so I could be a sell-out too.

Don't worry are you are a sell out


you just do it it on a smaller scale so no one notices . Not even yourself

strewelpeter

I don't think there is anything wrong with these mods getting rewarded for their Loyalty to the huge player. As part of the deal they have agreed to wear prominent sponsorship branding in a style of attire that conforms with the dress code of the tournament while paying homage to the great player.

zuutroy

Meh, I heard they all suck and will donk their chips off, so its just added value by Paddy Power really...

stovelid

javaboy wrote: »

The Soccer mods will be getting the FAI Advantage Seats next..

As well as the Vantage Club Seats? The bastards!

5starpool

You can't stand to see anyone get ahead, can you Nicky? All the crap we have had to to put up with and you begrudge us this, and go running to feedback like a whiny bitch?

You really are a sham and a joker, tbf.

Cuddlesworth

nicnicnic wrote: »

I was of the impression that MODS on these forums were supposed to be unpaid and impartial. The MODS on the poker forum are gaining free entry to Ireland's premier poker tournament which boasts a €3,500 entry. How can they be trusted to carry out there future duties to the average poker forum member in an unprejudiced manner when there receiving such a large payment in kind from a huge player in the Irish poker scene. Personally I find this disclosure quiet disturbing. I cant even start a thread about it on the poker forum; I've tried twice and they have mysteriously disappeared on both occasions.

Any chance you could kindly explain how the Mods gaining free entry to a poker tournament would affect their modding?

Any examples? Or are you just making assumptions?

I'm not surprised your threads were deleted, you don't question Mods or Mod decisions on their forum. That's what Helpdesk is for. This is a forum for Feedback on boards as a whole.

homerjay2005

5starpool wrote: »

You can't stand to see anyone get ahead, can you Nicky? All the crap we have had to to put up with and you begrudge us this, and go running to feedback like a whiny bitch?

You really are a sham and a joker, tbf.

i just popped in to see what soccer threads were in here and this one captured my attention also. ive absolutely no ties to the poker forum but this seems fair and bang on.

ireland is full of begrudgers and boards is no different.

Boston

5starpool wrote: »

You can't stand to see anyone get ahead, can you Nicky? All the crap we have had to to put up with and you begrudge us this, and go running to feedback like a whiny bitch?

You really are a sham and a joker, tbf.

So far you're coming across as being out of line. If the poster can't/shouldn't raise the issue on the poker forum, then why shouldn't he/she raise it on feedback.

sendic

Boston wrote: »

So far you're coming across as being out of line. If the poster can't/shouldn't raise the issue on the poker forum, then why shouldn't he/she raise it on feedback.

word to the wise, don't anger the poker mods. The 3500 payoff is only the start. This goes all the way to the top. Posters in poker have been disappeared for less than your comments

RedJoker

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Any chance you could kindly explain how the Mods gaining free entry to a poker tournament would affect their modding?

Any examples? Or are you just making assumptions?

I'm not surprised your threads were deleted, you don't question Mods or Mod decisions on their forum. That's what Helpdesk is for. This is a forum for Feedback on boards as a whole.

A lot of tournament organisers advertise their events on the poker forum and there are strict guidelines and rules regarding how this is done.

Nicky is rightly worried that it will be difficult for mods to remain impartial, how are they going to punish these organisers for crossing the line in future when they might risk missing out on future free $3500 entries? What happens if they start accepting bribes to lock and delete competitor threads?

I never trusted the poker mods anyway tbh, they all seemed very shifty to me. Especially LuckyLloyd, first the soccer forum and then the poker forum in quick succession, why would he want to gain a mod position on the two biggest forums on boards so quickly if he didn't have ulterior motives?

5starpool

I'm sick of having to explain our position. Officially PPP get no favours done for them. Sure we might look the other way occasionally on their promotion threads, or be a bit stricter on their competition, but if those others want equal treatment, there are a lot more events out there I would like to play in, other than those sponsored by Paddy Power, and they know where we are.

Calling them bribes are overstating it somewhat.

Cuddlesworth

RedJoker wrote: »

Nicky is rightly worried that it will be difficult for mods to remain impartial, how are they going to punish these organisers for crossing the line in future when they might risk missing out on future free $3500 entries? What happens if they start accepting bribes to lock and delete competitor threads?

They can't silence anybody outside of the forum, hence this thread. At the end of the day this site boils down to CM\Admin decisions. Or the eight ball in the office. Which explains the dual mod-ships, eight-balls are fickle masters.

Also, I thought poker players were supposed to be two-faced and shifty? Otherwise their just ****.

Flushdraw

5starpool wrote: »

I'm sick of having to explain our position. Officially PPP get no favours done for them. Sure we might look the other way occasionally on their promotion threads, or be a bit stricter on their competition, but if those others want equal treatment, there are a lot more events out there I would like to play in, other than those sponsored by Paddy Power, and they know where we are.

Calling them bribes are overstating it somewhat.

5star, you already won a ticket to the Irish Open. Does this mean PP have given you $3500 cash or something suitable, or do you miss out altogether because of it?

javaboy

stovelid wrote: »

As well as the Vantage Club Seats? The bastards!

The extra "Ad" is because they will have to clatter themselves in FAI logos and allow the FAI to advertise on the soccer forum.

Maybe I was just too subtle. :cool:

Ste05

Boston wrote: »

So far you're coming across as being out of line. If the poster can't/shouldn't raise the issue on the poker forum, then why shouldn't he/she raise it on feedback.

Those threads/posts were deleted because they were just more of this type of begrudgering tripe, they're not about Poker they're about us as individuals and he's basically just jealous, there's a very vocal minority that are against it, but as you can see from the thanks for 5starpool's post the overwhelming majority of the Poker forum posters have no problem with it and are actually in favour of it. We've promised detailed TR's so everyone is winning here.

Just like this thread nicnicnic can't prove or say anything about us being biased towards Paddy Power or anyone associated with the Irish Open, just that we might, and I can say now, we won't. Hence those posts were deleted, similarly this should be deleted too IMO, it's not about our modding it's just trying to have us lose out on this really generous gesture, who said modding has to be completely unpaid???

It's been well known on the Poker forum among the regulars that we are getting paid into the tournament this year, simply as a thank you for modding the forum over the years, there aren't any strings attached and we haven't been lenient at all, nor will we.

Thread deletion IMO.

5starpool

Flushdraw wrote: »

5star, you already won a ticket to the Irish Open. Does this mean PP have given you $3500 cash or something suitable, or do you miss out altogether because of it?

Extra generous rakeback deal instead.

Ste05

Flushdraw wrote: »

5star, you already won a ticket to the Irish Open. Does this mean PP have given you $3500 cash or something suitable, or do you miss out altogether because of it?

He can always sell his other ticket.

Also, we have to wear PPP logo's and clothing to get entry so it's not completely free for us.

LuckyLloyd

RedJoker wrote: »

I never trusted the poker mods anyway tbh, they all seemed very shifty to me. Especially LuckyLloyd, first the soccer forum and then the poker forum in quick succession, why would he want to gain a mod position on the two biggest forums on boards so quickly if he didn't have ulterior motives?

Ridiculous and uncalled for.

Flushdraw

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Ridiculous and uncalled for.

I agree. Far too many keyboard warriors on the poker forum. I've been posting there for quite a while and the amount of people that spout bs from one day to the next, and then when you meet them, they'd crawl into a corner and hide.

I'd suspect redjoker is just another one of these. LuckyLloyd can be found at many a poker venue and i'm sure he'd welcome you to turn up and say it to his face. Although just a warning, bring a chair a) to stand on so you can say it to his face, and b) to smash it across his back so it gives you just a 5% chance of getting out of the room alive.

Flushdraw

Ste05 wrote: »

He can always sell his other ticket.

Also, we have to wear PPP logo's and clothing to get entry so it's not completely free for us.

I actually directed the question at 5star, which he answered. Do you hold his cock while he's p1ssing too?

Icarus152

Flushdraw wrote: »

5star, you already won a ticket to the Irish Open. Does this mean PP have given you $3500 cash or something suitable, or do you miss out altogether because of it?

LOL,what a joke,he "won" the ticket.Yeah right.

_blank_

5starpool wrote: »

I'm sick of having to explain our position. Officially PPP get no favours done for them. Sure we might look the other way occasionally on their promotion threads, or be a bit stricter on their competition, but if those others want equal treatment, there are a lot more events out there I would like to play in, other than those sponsored by Paddy Power, and they know where we are.

Calling them bribes are overstating it somewhat.

I really hope this is some kind of April Fools joke, I really do.

Basically here we have a Moderator stating, as plain as day, that because a certain individual/company gives him freebies, he doles out stricter moderation to their competitors.

Then he goes on to basically pimp himself out for other freebies from other individuals, saying that he'd look more favourably on them in future if such freebies are forthcoming.

I have to say, as a Moderator myself, I find this practice highly dubious.

As I said, if this is some kind of piss take gone horribly wrong I'll hold my hands up and be embarrassed about this post.

If not, then I'd really like to see an Admin's take on it.

Flushdraw

Des wrote: »

If not, then I'd really like to see an Admin's take on it.

If you look at the list of entries for the Irish Open, you'll probably see a Tom "DeVore" Murphy appearing soon so i wouldn't hold my breath tbh.

RedJoker

I usually wouldn't post PMs in public but this is pretty over the line imo.

LuckyLloyd wrote:

If you want to keep your account it would be in your best interest to keep your mouth shut about my moderation and motives.

Cheers,

Lloyd.

I'm not going to keep my mouth shut Lloyd, it's pretty clear you're trying to hide something and now that you're getting attention you're trying to cover everything up with thinly veiled threats. Disgraceful really.

KevIRL

Des wrote: »

If not, then I'd really like to see an Admin's take on it.

DeVore gets the free IO entry as well.

This thread should be just locked and deleted imo. Best for all concerned

_blank_

Flushdraw wrote: »

If you look at the list of entries for the Irish Open, you'll probably see a Tom "DeVore" Murphy appearing soon so i wouldn't hold my breath tbh.

Could I ask what date this list was first made available?

Flushdraw

RedJoker wrote: »

I usually wouldn't post PMs in public but this is pretty over the line imo.

lol you get banned from 2+2 a couple of days ago, so now you're going to trawl the sh1t out of the poker forum and attack the mods? GTFO

Flushdraw

Des wrote: »

Could I ask what date this list was first made available?

There's an "unofficial" list up on the paddypower site as they price up all the players reg'd and a few other so called celebrity players and popular Irish players. I'm not sure if the official list is out yet as paddypower (IMO) also skim a little cream off the top. Expect to see DeVore hovering around the 300/1 mark btw

bohsman

Flushdraw wrote: »

lol you get banned from 2+2 a couple of days ago, so now you're going to trawl the sh1t out of the poker forum and attack the mods? GTFO

Yea the usual standard line whenever anyone mentions the PPP thing, accuse them of being dcb and ban them.

Ste05

Flushdraw wrote: »

I actually directed the question at 5star, which he answered. Do you hold his cock while he's p1ssing too?

Just another of the Highly Vocal minority. I won't reply to petty insults. People can see how low these people will go from the above and from Redjoker posting Private PM's. Bad form RJ.

KevIRL wrote: »

DeVore gets the free IO entry as well.

This thread should be just locked and deleted imo. Best for all concerned

+1

Really just stirring up a hornets nest ATM. As I said above the regular Poker forum users have no problem with this, I'd say 5star just forgot to put in a smiley on that post, we don't openly pimp for entries, but if one comes along, we're not going to refuse it now are we?

RedJoker

Flushdraw wrote: »

There's an "unofficial" list up on the paddypower site as they price up all the players reg'd and a few other so called celebrity players and popular Irish players. I'm not sure if the official list is out yet as paddypower (IMO) also skim a little cream off the top. Expect to see DeVore hovering around the 300/1 mark btw

You sure seem to know a lot about what's going on and have been very quick to come to the defence of the poker mods, so how much did they pay you?

zuutroy

I don't know which is worse, RedJoker making a private communication public or the content of it.....

_blank_

RJ, you shouldn't have posted the PM.

This whole thing seems, to me, to fly in the face of this thread, in the Moderator Forum (apologies to those who can't see it)

LuckyLloyd

Des wrote: »

Could I ask what date this list was first made available?

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SPORTS&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=138&ev_type_id=5625&ev_oc_grp_ids=32935&bir_index=

released a few days ago

Iago

In all honesty lads this is nothing new, just more blatant than usual.

There's an ongoing "private" boards heads up online tournament that Boyle Sports just decided out of the goodness of their hearts to add $10k to the prizepool, no points for guessing who's going to come out on top of that.

Similar thing happened around a year ago with (was it Bruce poker??) some site also adding $5k in prize money, which was also "won" by a poker mod.

At least they're admitting it now as far as I'm concerned.

_blank_

KevIRL wrote: »

DeVore gets the free IO entry as well.

DeVore, I can understand.

He's one company owner, getting a nice gift from another company. Nothing wrong there.

But, what I do not like is the way the Poker Moderators were given this also, it kind of puts them on a higher level than the "normal" users, when reality, us Moderators of Boards.ie are there to facilitate discussion and ensure the smooth running of the forums we moderate.

I don't begrudge anyone this by the way.

I just don't like the way it looks, or the way it is being portrayed by at least one of the Poker Mods.

Flushdraw

RedJoker wrote: »

You sure seem to know a lot about what's going on and have been very quick to come to the defence of the poker mods, so how much did they pay you?

I dont know a lot tbh. I just think its a jealousy thing. All mods on here are tournie players, and its cash game players like you that moan for 11 months of the year about how bad tournie players are, how they dont understand situations etc. You just stick with your cash games and let the mods play their tournies. Maybe if you ask nicely enough, PP could sort you out with a couple of buyins for 100nl

Iago wrote: »

In all honesty lads this is nothing new, just more blatant than usual.

There's an ongoing "private" boards heads up online tournament that Boyle Sports just decided out of the goodness of their hearts to add $10k to the prizepool, no points for guessing who's going to come out on top of that.

Similar thing happened around a year ago with (was it Bruce poker??) some site also adding $5k in prize money, which was also "won" by a poker mod.

At least they're admitting it now as far as I'm concerned.

The fact i negiotiated the deal and am running the HeadsUp league, has nothing to do with anything i've mentioned previously in the thread.

KevIRL

RedJoker wrote: »

You sure seem to know a lot about what's going on and have been very quick to come to the defence of the poker mods, so how much did they pay you?

He's just regretting his decision not to take up modship all the times it was offered and trying to get on our good side again.

Keep it up Flushy, you might get in for 2010

Wreck

Ste05 wrote: »

Really just stirring up a hornets nest ATM. As I said above the regular Poker forum users have no problem with this, I'd say 5star just forgot to put in a smiley on that post, we don't openly pimp for entries, but if one comes along, we're not going to refuse it now are we?

Personally I do have a problem with this, as no matter what you guys say these kinds of gifts must have an effect on how you moderate threads involving PPP and their competitors. Just because we haven't spoken up against it doesn't mean we agree with it. Favoritism appears rampant at the moment with deleted threads and censored posts in all of the poker sub-forums.

I think the mods of the poker forum do a great job in general, but this issue really has tainted that view. And fairplay to Nicky for bringing it out in the open, even if he is obviously partly doing it out of bitterness and jealousy.

Flushdraw

KevIRL wrote: »

He's just regretting his decision not to take up modship all the times it was offered and trying to get on our good side again.

Keep it up Flushy, you might get in for 2010

I'm playing the Irish Open Kev. I won my ticket on PP a few weeks ago. I want all the mods to play. LuckyLloyd can play a bit, but yourself, 5star and Ste05 are basically dead money and adding €10k to the prizepool, which makes my chances of making the money greater.

Sirtoyou

Not satisfied with the free entry I've noticed at least one mod on the the tv feature table in the last few years.Another perk I suppose(Hi Mam thats me next to Doyle Brunson)