Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Kerry GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post #4167
Options
Comments
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »Lot of people writing us off based on the 2 games v Cork which suits fine. Should get over the 1/4 final without too much fuss and then have a crunch game in semi. The real stuff starts now!
Yerra will ye get out of that! You Kerry boys love thinking people are writing you off when in reality most people are saying you're probably the only nailed on certainties for one of the semi final spots (I'm assuming Dublin get Cork in the last 8 so can't say it is a nailed on win for them). Nobody is writing you off so enough of that guff!
0 -
-
Ceist_Beag wrote: »Yerra will ye get out of that! You Kerry boys love thinking people are writing you off when in reality most people are saying you're probably the only nailed on certainties for one of the semi final spots (I'm assuming Dublin get Cork in the last 8 so can't say it is a nailed on win for them). Nobody is writing you off so enough of that guff!
watch back the recent games analysis and you will see different, all the pundits thinks we are a team with many problems and we wont retain our all ireland.
people in GAA are like sheep, they believe the hype or the criticism and right now, Kerry are probably 3rd favourites in most peoples eyes.
i seen reference last week even after beating Cork as us being a "poor team".0 -
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
Ceist_Beag wrote: »Yerra will ye get out of that! You Kerry boys love thinking people are writing you off when in reality most people are saying you're probably the only nailed on certainties for one of the semi final spots (I'm assuming Dublin get Cork in the last 8 so can't say it is a nailed on win for them). Nobody is writing you off so enough of that guff!
Kerry are as good as in a semi final and very warm favourites to win same irrespective of whom they meet.
In addition whoever does reach the final from the other side of the draw.. Dublin,Donegal or Mayo or who ever will have a tougher route from the quarter final on.
Kerry are in fact second favourites for the All Ireland and quite short odds at that considering the inevitable amount of money that is placed on Dublin.0 -
Ceist_Beag wrote: »Yerra will ye get out of that! You Kerry boys love thinking people are writing you off when in reality most people are saying you're probably the only nailed on certainties for one of the semi final spots (I'm assuming Dublin get Cork in the last 8 so can't say it is a nailed on win for them). Nobody is writing you off so enough of that guff!
Guff? Go and have a read of reservoirdubs there if you don't believe me. Dismissive is the only word to describe some of the posts after the Munster final. Thin line between confidence and arrogance though in fairness and Dublin ARE the barometer right now.
Not to dismiss what you say completely because, yes we should almost certainly make the semi finals, but it's a different ball game from there on.0 -
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
Join Date:Posts: 10322
Ceist_Beag wrote: »Listen, I spoke to a Dublin fan at the league semi finals who is 100% convinced the Dublin county board took a bribe to throw the AI semi against Donegal last year ... I wouldn't pay too much attention to what a lot of Dublin fans say! Not saying there aren't genuine decent Dublin fans out there, just that they would seem to have a fairly high quote of numpties in their midst as well (and these tend to be louder!).
I agree totally. There's a few Donegal lads I wouldn't listen to either, but then again it's hard not to big Donegal up all the same, since they have 15 huge, natural footballers with PhDs and huge flutes !!!!
Not saying there aren't genuine decent Donegal fans out there.
0 -
ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »I agree entirely..the real championship has just started. You need to tell some of your colleagues though as some of the recent posts on the Dublin thread here would seem to lean towards the "doesn't deserve to be taken seriously" bracket!
I won't be telling anyone anything boss. I'm not responsible for what anyone else says or thinks. What I think is that Kerry were definitely not firing on all cylinders in the drawn Munster final. I think that the summer has come a bit too soon for the Gooch. Given the extent of his injuries, I think he needs a few more months of solid game time under his belt, before he is back to optimal fitness. I think that Donaghy won't be as effective this year, as he was last year, as the surprise factor is now gone.
I also thought that over all Kerry looked leggy & lethargic & that the fight and intensity that Cork brought to the table took them by surprise. Was that thanks to Tomas O'Se playing silly buggers with everyones heads....we'll never know. It doesn't matter, as they won't be that leggy and lethargic come August/September. They never are. They may be beaten by a team that plays better than them on the day, but they certainly won't be caught on the hop again. That's not the Kerry way. I'd imagine that most people had thoughts along those same lines. It's not exactly rocket science.
However, some Kerry people do tend to over react when the national media and punters in general, stop for two seconds & actually think about what they just saw on the pitch. When the non stop, unquestioning, adoration of Kerrys glorious history and tradition, stops for all of two seconds, it doesn't sit well with them. They get very defensive about being disrespected and dismissed, when that is not the general narrative at all.
It's just people reacting to what they see on the pitch, with maybe a smidgin of wishful thinking thrown in for good measure, seeing as its Kerry. There will be the odd muppet here and there who goes a bit too far, but every county has them. Their rather over the top pronouncements are rarely the prevailing majority opinion & their fellow county men are fairly quick to pull them up on it. That happens all the time over on Res Dubs, but people only see and remember the posts that piss them off and they skim over the sane and rational ones.
Isn't it great that none of those muppets, or the overly defensive Kerry types post on here? T'wud be a terrible chore if they did. 0 -
I won't be telling anyone anything boss. I'm not responsible for what anyone else says or thinks. What I think is that Kerry were definitely not firing on all cylinders in the drawn Munster final. I think that the summer has come a bit too soon for the Gooch. Given the extent of his injuries, I think he needs a few more months of solid game time under his belt, before he is back to optimal fitness. I think that Donaghy won't be as effective this year, as he was last year, as the surprise factor is now gone.
I also thought that over all Kerry looked leggy & lethargic & that the fight and intensity that Cork brought to the table took them by surprise. Was that thanks to Tomas O'Se playing silly buggers with everyones heads....we'll never know. It doesn't matter, as they won't be that leggy and lethargic come August/September. They never are. They may be beaten by a team that plays better than them on the day, but they certainly won't be caught on the hop again. That's not the Kerry way. I'd imagine that most people had thoughts along those same lines. It's not exactly rocket science.
However, some Kerry people do tend to over react when the national media and punters in general, stop for two seconds & actually think about what they just saw on the pitch. When the non stop, unquestioning, adoration of Kerrys glorious history and tradition, stops for all of two seconds, it doesn't sit well with them. They get very defensive about being disrespected and dismissed, when that is not the general narrative at all.
It's just people reacting to what they see on the pitch, with maybe a smidgin of wishful thinking thrown in for good measure, seeing as its Kerry. There will be the odd muppet here and there who goes a bit too far, but every county has them. Their rather over the top pronouncements are rarely the prevailing majority opinion & their fellow county men are fairly quick to pull them up on it. That happens all the time over on Res Dubs, but people only see and remember the posts that piss them off and they skim over the sane and rational ones.
Isn't it great that none of those muppets, or the overly defensive Kerry types post on here? T'wud be a terrible chore if they did.
I can't disagree with most of that, but the bit in bold is what slightly irks me. Again, it's slightly of our own making as there are people who go on about the past too much, but for the most part this gets overblown to me.
Gaelic football has changed so much in the last 20 years alone that All Irelands or players back in the day don't have a huge relevance. Some of the older generation really struggle and only begrudgingly (if ever at all) admit that the game and those playing it now are superior than previous generations, although to be fair the game (rules etc) has changed so much it's hard to even compare.
I think 1 thing that possibly drives non-Kerry football fans nuts is the amount of ex-Kerry players active in the media. I can't argue with that, there are a lot of them and while Dara O'Cinnéide and Tomás are often interesting to read, I wouldn't even look at a lot of the rest of it myself. Then there is also some of the old school GAA writers who lived through the Kerry/Dublin" era of the 70's and 80's and regularly relive those through their work, which is of little interest to many.
The recent Conor McCarthy article was as much of a reaction or return of fire as anything else, so I for one wouldn't argue much. I think every team I've ever seen tried to influence the referee to some degree anyway, so I don't see the big issue. I must say, the reaction of a few people was totally ridiculous. If someone said "Kerry only ever won anything because of referees" I would call it idiotic, but that's not what was said at all.
Anyway, hoping we can forget it and let on-pitch matters take centre stage from now on.
Can't wait for the Gooch to score the winning point against Dublin in the final now that you have written him off..:pac:0 -
ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »I can't disagree with most of that, but the bit in bold is what slightly irks me. Again, it's slightly of our own making as there are people who go on about the past too much, but for the most part this gets overblown to me.
Gaelic football has changed so much in the last 20 years alone that All Irelands or players back in the day don't have a huge relevance. Some of the older generation really struggle and only begrudgingly (if ever at all) admit that the game and those playing it now are superior than previous generations, although to be fair the game (rules etc) has changed so much it's hard to even compare.
I think 1 thing that possibly drives non-Kerry football fans nuts is the amount of ex-Kerry players active in the media. I can't argue with that, there are a lot of them and while Dara O'Cinnéide and Tomás are often interesting to read, I wouldn't even look at a lot of the rest of it myself. Then there is also some of the old school GAA writers who lived through the Kerry/Dublin" era of the 70's and 80's and regularly relive those through their work, which is of little interest to many.
The recent Conor McCarthy article was as much of a reaction or return of fire as anything else, so I for one wouldn't argue much. I think every team I've ever seen tried to influence the referee to some degree anyway, so I don't see the big issue. I must say, the reaction of a few people was totally ridiculous. If someone said "Kerry only ever won anything because of referees" I would call it idiotic, but that's not what was said at all.
Anyway, hoping we can forget it and let on-pitch matters take centre stage from now on.
Can't wait for the Gooch to score the winning point against Dublin in the final now that you have written him off..:pac:
Oh FFS. I never said I was writing him off. I merely said that his injuries may not have him operating at peak fitness this year. No reason at all, why he can't come back as good as new with some more game time under belt. And another thing.... A-ha ! I see what you did there. Nicely played !
Fair play to your for acknowledging the huge role that former Kerry players have in the media. But you can't dismiss it all that easily, just because you think only O'Cinnide and Tomas are decent reads. Their over whelming dominance of the media - heretofore known as The Kerry Media Mafia
- means that they get to set the agenda & influence peoples opinions.
Whether people want to admit it or not, it does happen. The non stop banging on and on about their history and tradition, just reinforces the weaker minded in our midst, that everything that comes out of their mouths must always be true.The very existence of the KMM means that very, very little negative stuff about Kerry ever emerges. When it does it does, it rarely gathers traction. The KMM come out in full force to counteract it & sweep any mention of dark arts under the carpet. No other county has that power, so can you wonder why it pisses people off?
The reaction to the McCarthy article was hilarious. The gas thing is that not a week goes by, where Daragh O'Se isn't telling people about Kerrys innate cuteness, how they instinctively know what to do to gain the mental edge over their opponent, the importance of laying down a marker your man when the ref isn't looking....blah blah blah.
But he is very cute. He doesn't reveal any state secrets. He does it in a ....nudge, nudge, wink wink, shure aren't we all just harmless aul divils who wouldn't hurt a fly and, here's yet another story about Paudi to show why... manner. A month or so ago he was banging on about targeting the other sides main man. I believe the phrase he used was "hammer the hammer", but it was all typical nudge, nudge guff.
But then McCarthy calls it as it actually is and now he is Public Enemy #1. It really is gas, coz in the replay Alan O'Connor - the MOTM in the first game - winds up with a yellow card, a mere 5 minutes into the game. Yet people are supposed shut up and to think that is a coincidence? Right you are....fair enough...move along now....nothing to see here....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:0 -
Oh FFS. I never said I was writing him off. I merely said that his injuries may not have him operating at peak fitness this year. No reason at all, why he can't come back as good as new with some more game time under belt. And another thing.... A-ha ! I see what you did there. Nicely played !
Fair play to your for acknowledging the huge role that former Kerry players have in the media. But you can't dismiss it all that easily, just because you think only O'Cinnide and Tomas are decent reads. Their over whelming dominance of the media - heretofore known as The Kerry Media Mafia - means that they get to set the agenda & influence peoples opinions.
Whether people want to admit it or not, it does happen. The non stop banging on and on about their history and tradition, just reinforces the weaker minded in our midst, that everything that comes out of their mouths must always be true.The very existence of the KMM means that very, very little negative stuff about Kerry ever emerges. When it does it does, it rarely gathers traction. The KMM come out in full force to counteract it & sweep any mention of dark arts under the carpet. No other county has that power, so can you wonder why it pisses people off?
The reaction to the McCarthy article was hilarious. The gas thing is that not a week goes by, where Daragh O'Se isn't telling people about Kerrys innate cuteness, how they instinctively know what to do to gain the mental edge over their opponent, the importance of laying down a marker your man when the ref isn't looking....blah blah blah.
But he is very cute. He doesn't reveal any state secrets. He does it in a ....nudge, nudge, wink wink, shure aren't we all just harmless aul divils who wouldn't hurt a fly and, here's yet another story about Paudi to show why... manner. A month or so ago he was banging on about targeting the other sides main man. I believe the phrase he used was "hammer the hammer", but it was all typical nudge, nudge guff.
But then McCarthy calls it as it actually is and now he is Public Enemy #1. It really is gas, coz in the replay Alan O'Connor - the MOTM in the first game - winds up with a yellow card, a mere 5 minutes into the game. Yet people are supposed shut up and to think that is a coincidence? Right you are....fair enough...move along now....nothing to see here....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
First off, Alan O'Connor got a yellow in the replay because he struck Paul Geaney right in front of the ref, which was idiotic.
Secondly, "hammer the hammer" means turning the oppositions strength into a weakness, NOT "lets take X out of the game off the ball".
Thirdly, you keep banging on about the media for some reason..the only way Darragh or anyone else will have any influence whatsover is when people like you read everything he writes and takes it seriously.
Imagine if someone produced a thorough critique of all Roy Curtis columns about the Dubs and tried to say this was evidence that all Dublin fans were idiots?
It's all about what happens on the field as far as I'm concerned and if people stopped taking notice of the mostly bogstandard output (with a few honourable exceptions.) that passes for GAA journalism in this country, we'd all be better off. Jim McGuinness has been writing a decent column lately, so would add him to the likes of Tony McEntee, Tomás, Kieran Shannon and the odd bit from others in the worthwhile category. Breheny, McGee etc are a waste of time for students of modern Gaelic Football IMO.0 -
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement