TV's with MPEG4 DTT decoder

Sam Russell

I have a 42LD490. When you install it, there is no country option, but there is an option to 'untick' the channel number placement. This them puts the channel numbers in the 1, 2, 3 etc locations rather than the 800s.

The set has MHEG 5, but does not do the traditional text, so no text for TV3 or TG4. Otherwise, the set is good. I am used to Sony, so I find the menus on the remote are a bit strange, but there you go.

watty

So it's slightly incompatible now but fine after 2012.

The xxLD490 basically a slightly newer UK only version of the xxLD450, with DVB-T2 instead of DVB-T, option for WiFi and I think 3 x HDMI rather than 2 x HDMI.

Sam Russell

It has a number of internet options that might be handy in the future. I went for this one as it was cheap (€460) and had a T2 tuner, as I hope that after 2012, I might get UK HD TV from Divis or Wales. I live in hope.

darrenw5094

Samsung UE37C6000 LED from Pixmania. MPEG4 tuner.:)

hdowney

k so if i have an mpeg4 telly what do i need to get to see if i can get the saorview here?

darrenw5094

Plug your ordinary coaxial ariel attenna into tv. Select 'Air', not 'cable' and do a 'Full' digital autotune.

hdowney

ok gonna sound stupid. what is a coaxial arial? and where do i select air?

darrenw5094

hdowney wrote: »

ok gonna sound stupid. what is a coaxial arial? and where do i select air?

It's the old cable from the roof ariel. Ancient by now, but still does a job.
I assume you have the Samsung 6 Series LED like me. If so, press menu button, scroll down to Antenna and select Air from there instead of cable.

hdowney

em i don't have a roof arial!!!

in the last house i lived in (childhood home) we couldn't afford telly for most of it, and when we did have telly we had rabbits ears. god knows where they went.

when i moved here 10 yr ago we got sky in and have had ever since so the old CRT telly in my room and the HD in the living room are both skyed up to the eyeballs and have no type of arial.

i have an lg at the moment. but am getting a samsung for the second room

darrenw5094

Possibly rabbits ears will do. But check around first.

get_d_hand_in

Hi All,

I'm confused. Can you tell me if this philips model will work Philips 42PFL5522D/05.

I don't understand the difference between Mpeg 4 and DVB-T. This tv has a DVB -T so i'm hoping this is ok..

Thanks

Much appreciated..

hdowney

well on the saorview website they say you can use rabbits ears - i presume wether they would work or not would depend on if you can receive analogue rte in your area - like was the signal blocked or anything.

where would one get rabbits ears in this day and age!

The Cush

hdowney wrote: »

well on the saorview website they say you can use rabbits ears - i presume wether they would work or not would depend on if you can receive analogue rte in your area - like was the signal blocked or anything.

where would one get rabbits ears in this day and age!

Reception with a rabbit-ears (set top / indoor) aerial will depend on your location, distance for your nearest transmitter. Strong signal required with this type of aerial.

For a weak signal area an external aerial will be required.

The analogue signal covers approx 98% of the population, the digital signal probably 90-95% (no official figure yet).

Argos, Powercity etc. sell indoor aerials.

hdowney

i think i may try indoor arial first. as there is no way i am clambering onto my roof to fix the outdoor one and i got no one to do it for me

The Cush

get_d_hand_in wrote: »

I don't understand the difference between Mpeg 4 and DVB-T. This tv has a DVB -T so i'm hoping this is ok..

DVB-T is the transmission standard, used everywhere around Europe. MPEG-4 is the important part, this is how the video (tv picture) is compressed for transmission.

Ireland uses the MPEG-4 video standard, the UK the older MPEG-2 standard. If buying a new TV it must be either Saorview certified or at least be MPEG-4 compatible. MPEG-2 only receiving equipment will give you sound but no video.

This post might assist - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70915671#post70915671

ormondprop

does anybody know if a sony 40s5650 has mpeg-4

The Cush

ormondprop wrote: »

does anybody know if a sony 40s5650 has mpeg-4

The manual says yes.

Analogue: PAL, PAL60 (only video input), SECAM, NTSC3.58, NTSC4.43 (only video input)
Digital: MPEG-2 MP@ML/HL, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC HP@L4.0, MP@L3.0

http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4159788121.pdf

Martin_F

hdowney wrote: »

i think i may try indoor arial first. as there is no way i am clambering onto my roof to fix the outdoor one and i got no one to do it for me

you can mount an outdoor one in the attic - much easier. results will depend on signal strength, aerial gain and roof composition/aspect. works well for me and the inlaws.

BionicRasher

Machinehead wrote: »

Thanks STB.
The model is Panasonic TX-L42D25L
Purchased for Soundstore 04/06/2010
Who published those minimum receiver requirements?
I have an email ready to go to Panasonic with the relevant link.

Any luck setting this TV up to allow MHEG5? Bought it over the weekend and not happy that I cant even get BBC Interactive services not to mind even basic Text services.
I wonder if it can be set to another country thus enabling MHEG5

Think I might return it if I cant get it working. Cant test Saorview as I dont have an aerial yet

Would I be right in thinking that TXP42GT20B (or in fact anything from Pana with a B will do MHEG5)

championc

tui0hcg wrote: »

Any luck setting this TV up to allow MHEG5? Bought it over the weekend and not happy that I cant even get BBC Interactive services not to mind even basic Text services.
I wonder if it can be set to another country thus enabling MHEG5

Think I might return it if I cant get it working. Cant test Saorview as I dont have an aerial yet

Would I be right in thinking that TXP42GT20B (or in fact anything from Pana with a B will do MHEG5)

I've got a G20B and it's the best thing I ever bought - and is even better now that the G30B came out without the integrated Freesat decoder.

But to answer your question, the B's will work fine. You can re-number the DVB channels so they don't need to stay as 800's or whatever.


C

tui0hcg

tui0hcg wrote: »

Any luck setting this TV up to allow MHEG5? Bought it over the weekend and not happy that I cant even get BBC Interactive services not to mind even basic Text services.
I wonder if it can be set to another country thus enabling MHEG5

Think I might return it if I cant get it working. Cant test Saorview as I dont have an aerial yet

Would I be right in thinking that TXP42GT20B (or in fact anything from Pana with a B will do MHEG5)

Earlier than the G20B won't even do MPEG-4 in Ireland due to firmware restrictions. So G20B or G30B only.

The L series I believe are European spec, therefore use MHP rather than MHEG-5, which is useless in Ireland.

Lucious Sweet

Karsini wrote: »

Earlier than the G20B won't even do MPEG-4 in Ireland due to firmware restrictions. So G20B or G30B only.

The L series I believe are European spec, therefore use MHP rather than MHEG-5, which is useless in Ireland.

Not quite true. I have a G10L and it does have MPEG-4.
No MHEG-5 though.

moz

moz wrote: »

Not quite true. I have a G10L and it does have MPEG-4.
No MHEG-5 though.

Yes but it's a G10L. The G10B won't pick up MPEG-4 channels defined as 0x16.

Ogie84

Hi all,

have been looking at the LG Infinia 42LX6500 TV on Pixmania, http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/5657994/art/lg/infinia-42lx6500-led-tele.html#pix-review

Can anyone confirm if this has the MPeg 4 and MHEG5 compatibility required?

BionicRasher

championc wrote: »

I've got a G20B and it's the best thing I ever bought - and is even better now that the G30B came out without the integrated Freesat decoder.

But to answer your question, the B's will work fine. You can re-number the DVB channels so they don't need to stay as 800's or whatever.


C

OK so I tested the Saorview with rabbits ears and it works a treat. 7 day EPG etc but the only issue is no MHEG5 for Interactive text. I get normal text on all the channels except RTE 2 which has nothing but a blank page - is this correct?
Everything else is working a treat so can confirm it works with Irish DTT but just no MHEG5
I have an old Sky box so I probably will just feed in a spare sat feed to that and get the Interactive stuff on the UK channels anyway just to appease me


Can you get the BBC iPlayer on Freesat? I found this on the web http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c.../down_uk1.html which I think seems to add iPlayer to the B models - lucky you if you can


I have come to the conclusion that the retailer wont take the TV back as they are probably not obliged to at all. I might try but I have my head wrecked so much now that I have over educated myself to the point of making me think the TV is out of date already when in fact the price was so good and the specs are top notch so overall its a great bit of kit (must keep telling myself that:P)

I wonder what I could say to the retailer to get him to take it back - do I have a leg to stand on???

Machinehead

My understanding is that iPlayer feeds come through your broadband connection, the iPlayer itself is just the software that helps you to navigate through the feeds. It is only available to UK IP addresses, so you won't be able to get it unless you can get a UK IP address which can be done through some sites online. I'm sure you'll find some threads posted on this site on this issue. I can't do this as my broadband supplier uses dynamic IP address allocation which results in an IP change every 24 hours. If your with Eircom their IP addresses are static & should be no prob.
Some guys around here maintain that the retailer is ultimately responsible for supplying equipment that doesn't conform to the minimum specs laid down some years ago, but I remember someone letting me know that while those specs were laid down as the industry standard, there was no legislation to enforce this standard ~ they were only guidelines. This may have changed in the meantime, as I said in my pm it's a quagmire. I'm sure someone here can clarify you situation (same as mine;)).

winston_1

tui0hcg wrote: »

Everything else is working a treat so can confirm it works with Irish DTT but just no MHEG5


I have come to the conclusion that the retailer wont take the TV back as they are probably not obliged to at all.

I wonder what I could say to the retailer to get him to take it back - do I have a leg to stand on???

Did the dealer tell you it was not Irish spec and did not do MHEG5?

If not it is reasonable to assume that it was Irish spec as it was sold in Ireland. This makes NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE so the dealer must take it back.

BionicRasher

winston_1 wrote: »

Did the dealer tell you it was not Irish spec and did not do MHEG5?

If not it is reasonable to assume that it was Irish spec as it was sold in Ireland. This makes NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE so the dealer must take it back.

He didn't say yeh or nah as I didn't really ask about MHEG5. I did ask if it would pick up Saorview and he said yes 'it should - but no guarantee'

Will that be a deal breaker you think? I think they will fight it to take it back so maybe I am better off pursuing Panasonic to try to get some kind of firmware patch or a CI card or the likes

championc

Looks like you've lost that possible leg to stand on there now.

And forget about Panny taking any notice of you too. Ireland is too small a market it would seem for them to bother about.

It's crazy that they continue selling the specific "L" models here when the "B" FreeviewHD (not Freeview) work perfectly. They could just stick to bringing in these models only and we'd all be happy.


C

BionicRasher

championc wrote: »

Looks like you've lost that possible leg to stand on there now.

even though they never told me that it is only the MHEG5 aspect that is not available. i.e. they said Saorview should work (which it does) but he never told me it didn't have MHEG5