Irish Post Codes

NotInventedHere · 16-10-2008 12:39pm

garydubh I understand that the ideal situation is that post codes are introduced and people accept them for the efficencies that they deliver. Wherther that is that marketers can pidgeonhole you with greater accuracy or post is delivered quicker or whatever this post code silver bullet promises. That is not reality where 'real' people stand to lose 'real money' because of what is essentially a lottery created by a private company. eg militar Road, Balybrack. Foxboro, Lucan, Larel lodge, Castleknock. thats just 3 off the top of my head.

garydubh · 16-10-2008 5:31pm

NotInventedHere wrote: »

garydubh I understand that the ideal situation is that post codes are introduced and people accept them for the efficencies that they deliver. Wherther that is that marketers can pidgeonhole you with greater accuracy or post is delivered quicker or whatever this post code silver bullet promises. That is not reality where 'real' people stand to lose 'real money' because of what is essentially a lottery created by a private company. eg militar Road, Balybrack. Foxboro, Lucan, Larel lodge, Castleknock. thats just 3 off the top of my head.

Not sure why you have quoted street names???

PON Codes are no lottery - they are a direct conversion of Irish Grid which your house already has.....

Cannot account for your thinking on this as some real people are in vehicles every day trying to find places and cannot because the other real people you refer to change their addresses to suit their pretentions....

You seem to be on your own with this point of view!

16-10-2008 5:59pm

This thread is starting to remind me of the silly situation that occurred in London in the late 80's (or early 90's, I can't remember exactly) when the Telephone numbers were divided up into two dialling zones as they had run out of numbers.

One zone was central London and the other was the remainder of London, the number of people who got their numbers ported to central London ones at great expense was unbelievable, Mrs Buckets the lot of them! pronounced "Bouquet".

At least you can't do that with PON codes.

(have visions of someone erecting a signpost with "We actually live 500 metres down the road" pointing to a council estate.

javaboy · 16-10-2008 6:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread is starting to remind me of the silly situation that occurred in London in the late 80's (or early 90's, I can't remember exactly) when the Telephone numbers were divided up into two dialling zones as they had run out of numbers.

Oh yeah I remember that. The Who came and played on one side but not the other or something like that.

Euro_Kraut · 20-09-2009 10:07pm

Its looks like we are getting postcodes:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0920/postcode.html

The Government has approved the introduction of a national postal code.

The Minister for Communications said tenders for the design and implementation of the system will be issued shortly.

Minister Ryan said he expects new postal codes with digits and letters to be introduced in 2011.
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A Government commissioned report said codes would provide long term savings and demographic details for planning as well as benefitting emergency services.

An Post said it will be playing a key role in the move to postal codes which will involve coding 1.7 million addresses.

In 2005, the then Minister for Communications, Noel Dempsey, promised a new system by 2008. At the time An post questioned the need for postal codes and industry experts put the cost at €50 million

However, Mr Ryan today said the move would cost a fraction of the €50 million it was estimated to cost four years.

Part of me is sad that we will lose our old non-post coded address e.g. John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo.

Still will make it easier filling in those damm online address forms that ask for post codes.

Dankoozy · 20-09-2009 10:14pm

We don't need post codes, this is purely for the benefit of a few yuppies who can't deal with GPS coordinates and need something else to type into their TomTom

and of course blindly copying what every other country does for the sake of "being more modern" in the hope that they will welcome us into their clique.

i always liked the lack of post codes, addresses were easier to remember without some cryptic code thrown into the middle of it.

Property tax
Post codes
"3 strikes" rule for using p2p
NCT

what other needless, annoying measures are they going to introduce here in order to 'fit in with the rest of them modern countries like England and France?'

ronaneire · 20-09-2009 10:15pm

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Its looks like we are getting postcodes:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0920/postcode.html

Part of me is sad that we will lose our old non-post coded address e.g. John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo. MO1234

Still will make it easier filling in those damm online address forms that ask for post codes.

John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo. MO1234

You probably wont lose it, just add to it. It is not before time either.

Euro_Kraut · 20-09-2009 10:17pm

ronaneire wrote: »

John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo. MO4SAM09

That might be more like what we get.

Dartz · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

Never underestimate the governments ability to launch pointless initiatives just to prove that it is doing something to solve a problem nobody even cared about.

Can it be dictatorship tiem nao?

joey54 · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

So will Dublin just stay the way it is or will there be changes?

AnonoBoy · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Its looks like we are getting postcodes:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0920/postcode.html

Part of me is sad that we will lose our old non-post coded address e.g. John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo.

Still will make it easier filling in those damm online address forms that ask for post codes.

Way to give out Murphy's address.

How about a bit of privacy around here?

COME ON!!!!

Biggins · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

We must be the last country in Europe to introduce the system.
About shaggin time!
Sick of web forms not responding right when you can't supply a post code.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 20-09-2009 10:19pm

Dankoozy wrote: »

We don't need post codes, this is purely for the benefit of a few yuppies who can't deal with GPS coordinates and need something else to type into their TomTom

and of course blindly copying what every other country does for the sake of "being more modern" in the hope that they will welcome us into their clique.

i always liked the lack of post codes, addresses were easier to remember without some cryptic code thrown into the middle of it.

Property tax
Post codes
"3 strikes" rule for using p2p
NCT

what other needless, annoying measures are they going to introduce here in order to 'fit in with the rest of them modern countries like England and France?'

NCT needless??? Lol...

AnonoBoy · 20-09-2009 10:20pm

Biggins wrote: »

We must be the last country in Europe to introduce the system.
About shaggin time!
Sick of web forms not responding right when you can't supply a post code.

000 is your best friend in that situation.

20-09-2009 10:22pm

ah yes. lets spend 50 million squids. sure why not. we'll just let biggins kid suffer some more so we can make mr postmans life soooo much easier :rolleyes:

Edit; didn't actually notice that biggins had replied to the thread! does my post look bad now? flip.

Max Power1 · 20-09-2009 10:23pm

Biggins wrote: »

We must be the last country in Europe to introduce the system.
About shaggin time!
Sick of web forms not responding right when you can't supply a post code.

000 always works for me

Bit daft to add a post code and confuse people just to make a few online transactions a bit smoother.

ronaneire · 20-09-2009 10:24pm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Way to give out Murphy's address.

How about a bit of privacy around here?

COME ON!!!!

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Its looks like we are getting postcodes:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0920/postcode.html

Part of me is sad that we will lose our old non-post coded address e.g. John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo.

Still will make it easier filling in those damm online address forms that ask for post codes.

For example

Dankoozy · 20-09-2009 10:25pm

Biggins wrote: »

We must be the last country in Europe to introduce the system.
About shaggin time!
Sick of web forms not responding right when you can't supply a post code.

The Irish government should piss away 50 million on a postcode system because of a few stupid Twitter-using web developers who fail to realise that not everyone has or needs a postcode?

Kayson Fast Tide wrote: »

NCT needless??? Lol...

NCT does nothing but make people spend more money on cars and replacement parts that weren't necessary before. so unless you consider propping up the garages / car industries a justified cause then it's needless

b0bsquish · 20-09-2009 10:28pm

er...why does it cost 50 million??

Yakult · 20-09-2009 10:29pm

Do we really need this ****e when this country is struggling financially? I reckon theirs better and more important things to spend €50 million on.

Biggins · 20-09-2009 10:32pm

Dankoozy wrote: »

The Irish government should piss away 50 million on a postcode system because of a few stupid Twitter-using web developers who fail to realise that not everyone has or needs a postcode?

Definably not. If it costs that much - stuff that.
We can survive without it. 50 Mill' frak me!
Ireland ain't THAT big! We'll still get our mail anyway!

Euro_Kraut · 20-09-2009 10:32pm

R_H_C_P wrote: »

Do we really need this ****e when this country is struggling financially? I reckon theirs better and more important things to spend €50 million on.

Like what??? Go on I dare ya - Name one thing MORE important that postcodes?

This could save us seconds upon seconds when buying stuff online.

ctrl-alt-delete · 20-09-2009 10:34pm

A waste of money, we have done ok so far without them,

A load of crap people on Rte News saying it will save lives,

We'll waste €50 million on it, and then that will make the money An post spent on the mail sorting machines a waste too.

Dankoozy · 20-09-2009 10:37pm

Biggins wrote: »

Definably not. If it costs that much - stuff that.
We can survive without it. 50 Mill' frak me!
Ireland ain't THAT big! We'll still get our mail anyway!

they could just have one official postcode for everyone in ireland to use for this purpose. maybe something like 'yore ma' but in caps and l33t speek to make it look more like an actual post code

PCPhoto · 20-09-2009 10:37pm

typical of this damn government ..... lets try and fix something thats working already !!!

where can we pi$$ away some more public money ?

I'd like to find out who was actually behind it.... and ask them why do they want to waste public money in this way !!

Is there really a need for Ireland to get post code's .... good 'ould Mr Postie knew how to do his job 50yrs ago , these days the postman(Being Policically Correct Postal Delivery Staff) doesn't know the difference between "Avenue" and "Road" (*Not ALL Postal Delivery Staff are capable of doing their job...much like a lot of staff in any other job - nepotism has ruined our economy)

/Rant (Gets Coat)

useful_contacts · 20-09-2009 10:38pm

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Its looks like we are getting postcodes:http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0920/postcode.html

Part of me is sad that we will lose our old non-post coded address e.g. John Murphy, Carricknabridie, Killslaybutcher, Ballytown, Co Mayo.

Still will make it easier filling in those damm online address forms that ask for post codes.

FFS

the only reason i cant remeber my sisters addy in london is cos of that ****ing postcode with the 20 letters and numbers

Jesus!

the post is pure slow here but so what- jesus what next they gonna have colour coded squares in every estate!

They taxing us to the bone in every budget- but hey "while we are at it lets introduce something totally unnecessery to take the focus away from everything else we are doing wrong"

twits!!!

Del2005 · 20-09-2009 10:38pm

Biggins wrote: »

Definably not. If it costs that much - stuff that.
We can survive without it. 50 Mill' frak me!
Ireland ain't THAT big! We'll still get our mail anyway!

It's €50 mil because some civil servants are going to have to think up a name for every road and boreen in the country...

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

A waste of money, we have done ok so far without them,

A load of crap people on Rte News saying it will save lives,

We'll waste €50 million on it, and then that will make the money An post spent on the mail sorting machines a waste too.

They already have one, but won't let anyone else use it. So we have to have a new system:eek::eek:

mikemac · 20-09-2009 10:40pm

Don't need it for postal delivery.
Delivery mail in towns should be straightforward with estates and streets and house numbers.

Not easy in rural areas when you have a few people with the same name and no numbers, just townlands. And the postman needs to know every child and grandchild.
But it works, fair play postal staff

Do emergency staff need it, can an ambulane find someone on a rural farm?
Well they can but would this help?

G_R · 20-09-2009 10:50pm

http://www.irishpostcodes.ie/

a private company has already developed a system, as have An Post (they're just to mean to share) so can somebody tell me why were spending 50m smackers on it??

galwayrush · 20-09-2009 10:51pm

b0bsquish wrote: »

er...why does it cost 50 million??

Because the people in charge here are utterly stupid in one way, but very smart in others as in they will make sure their own cronies will make a fortune out of it.
e- voting part 2 :rolleyes: Remember, it's mainly FF hacks who are on long term contracts to mind those useless machines.:mad:

Irish Post Codes

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