The scam thread ..all motors scams in here!

Alanstrainor · 23-02-2011 2:13am

Ah i see.

W.Shakes-Beer · 25-02-2011 10:49pm

Got this email for the Astra I have for sale:

Thanks for your swift response... I will be glad if you can send me some photos..

Due to nature of my job i will not be able to come for inspection,am a very busy type as i work long hours everyday,i have gone through your advertisement and i am satisfied with it.

Your price is Okay and i can offer you little bit more is 2,850euro, am offering you more than your asking price due to other potential buyers i hope my offer is acceptable..?

As for the payment..i will be paying you via the fastest and secure way to pay online(PayPal).

I have a private courier agent that will come for the pick up after the payment have been made ... So no shipping included.. My private courier agent will come for the pick up and sign all necessary documents on my behalf after the payment have been made, as they will also be coming with all the information needed, my details and transferring the name of ownership to me will be done by the pick up agent so you don't have to worry about that...

You can now send me your PayPal email so i can pay in right away and also include your address in your reply.If you don't have a paypal account, you can easily set up one...log on to www.paypal.com/ie. and sign up. its very easy.I await your reply asap."

Vick Shun.

Sounded dodgy, who offers more than the asking price for a car??

Esel · 25-02-2011 11:56pm

Vick Shun does. Full name: E. Vick Shun

E be a scammer, lad.

ShaneU · 26-02-2011 1:24am

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320-CI/201108201386588/advert?channel=CARS

Scam surely? No phone number and 7k cheaper than the same models.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/results?searchsource=finder&nParam=4294911133%2B200292%2B200298%2B102548&channel=CARS&cacheBuster=12986791558641#nParam=4294911133%2B200292%2B200298%2B102548%2B200590&sortby=p_VehiclePriceEUR|0&channel=CARS&currency=EUROS&searchResultsView=THUMBNAIL&maxrows=10

scoobymunster · 26-02-2011 12:34pm

I tried emailing him but for some reason the security check image thing doesn't appear? I've tried it a few times but alas it won't work. The same ad is on autotrader(for same price). Something doesn't seem right for it to be priced that cheaply though.

upandcumming · 02-03-2011 4:30am

mileycactus wrote: »

Just got an email on my car im trying to sell
sounds like a scam and im just going to ignore the guy...
anyone heard of this one?

Hello,
Happy to read from you. i am okay with the price,and i will be paying
you with certified check,There is nothing to worry about the
shipment.I have a shipping agent that will sign all the papers and
the transfer
of ownership certificate at your location on behalf of me when the
money credited to your account. Any amounts on the issue price is to
shipping agent for the shipping costs and matriculation expenses
for the pickup at your location.
The cheque will be verify and clear befor the shipping
agent come for it.and i live in uk .
Here is the information needed to consider fee of the
cheque: --
Full Name on the cheque.......
Home Address..........
Post code.......
Country........
Telephone number.........
Thank you and hope to read from you the details.

Who in Ireland talks like that!?

02-03-2011 4:40am

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

Got this email for the Astra I have for sale:

Sounded dodgy, who offers more than the asking price for a car??

Curious, how do they scam you? Isn't Paypal pretty safe like that? (I'm aware it's a blatant scam, by the way, just curious how it's done, involving Paypal).

Wolverine_1999 · 02-03-2011 1:03pm

http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/24/67337324.html

Too good to be true etc..

scoobymunster · 02-03-2011 2:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Curious, how do they scam you? Isn't Paypal pretty safe like that? (I'm aware it's a blatant scam, by the way, just curious how it's done, involving Paypal).

Ebay/Paypal don't protect you when the purchase involves a car. "Buyer" sends the money over paypal, picks up the car and gets it signed over. "Buyer" then contacts paypal claiming sale didn't go through or whatever and asks for a chargeback. Paypal normally don't question it and reverse the payment ergo your now out of a car and no longer have the money in your account. Also don't think your covered if you buy any software/computer program etc.

redsteveireland · 02-03-2011 11:13pm

Wolverine_1999 wrote: »

http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/24/67337324.html

Too good to be true etc..

The whole website? The link just goes to the search results page, maybe its just my phone acting up?

Seth Brundle · 02-03-2011 11:37pm

I and presumably others reported the ad. Its been removed now.
It was a merc for next to nothing.

03-03-2011 6:12am

scoobymunster wrote: »

Ebay/Paypal don't protect you when the purchase involves a car. "Buyer" sends the money over paypal, picks up the car and gets it signed over. "Buyer" then contacts paypal claiming sale didn't go through or whatever and asks for a chargeback. Paypal normally don't question it and reverse the payment ergo your now out of a car and no longer have the money in your account. Also don't think your covered if you buy any software/computer program etc.

Fair enough.

But if I receive the money for my car, and send it to my bank account (effectively emptying my Paypal account) then the buyer can not get a refund.

Also, seen as the car is now signed over to him, and I have all the details of the car (i did own it, afterall) surely I'll have no issue in getting Garda intervention?

scoobymunster · 03-03-2011 12:40pm

Most Paypal accounts are linked to a bank account(or bank/credit card at least), so either Paypal could retrieve the money through the account, or else just default the account and try and chase you for the debt. (Not really sure but that'd be my guess). You'd definitely be able to get the Garda involved to try to get the car back, but of course the risk is that the name/address on the logbook is a fake, and the car might be broke up for parts. Not that common a scam I admit but it has happened.

JJJJNR · 03-03-2011 2:05pm

Thats some mark up !

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2087158.htm

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M5/Touring/201106201224328/advert?channel=CARS

the_syco · 04-03-2011 1:15pm

JJJJNR wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M5/Touring/201106201224328/advert?channel=CARS

Googled the number 087 9178520 and came up with:
(links lead to Google cache pages, as original pages are gone)
http://tinyurl.com/4ek48t5
http://tinyurl.com/4v24acl

Big Nasty · 04-03-2011 1:25pm

JJJJNR wrote: »

Thats some mark up !

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2087158.htm

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M5/Touring/201106201224328/advert?channel=CARS

Don't see a whole lot wrong with that if it's VRT inclusive!

davoxx · 07-03-2011 7:21pm

dunno if this is the right place, but if anyone sees an ad for xantia activa or parts from one (roi/ni), it is possibly my stolen car, and i would be thankful if you could pm me!!

Wolverine_1999 · 09-03-2011 10:38am

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/1965877

Kepti · 09-03-2011 7:10pm

I've had a dealer looking for the logbook for a scrapped car. I'm guessing he wants to repair and then sell it on. How illegal is this, and can he be reported?

-Chris- · 09-03-2011 7:17pm

Was it a car they scrapped? Do they need the logbook in order to claim the scrappage VRT rebate from the gov't?

Kepti · 09-03-2011 8:18pm

-Chris- wrote: »

Was it a car they scrapped? Do they need the logbook in order to claim the scrappage VRT rebate from the gov't?

I meant breaker when I wrote dealer. Yeah, it was a car bought for scrappage off the insurance company.

Nothing was mentioned about needing the logbook for a VRT rebate, but I wasn't talking to the head guy so it's possible the guy I talked to wasn't aware why it was required, just that it was. I needed it to claim tax back so I didn't give it and just left a phone number. No calls after four days.

-Chris- · 09-03-2011 9:00pm

Sorry, I mixed scrapped and scrappage I think.

decies · 13-03-2011 10:01am

Thanks for the prompt response,the price is ??,I am buying it for birthday gift for my Mother and i am at sea at the moment as i am a engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want the item to be a surprise for her so i wont let her know anything about the item until it gets delivered to her,i am sure she will be more than happy with the lovely gift . I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address and the final price so i can make the payments asap for the item and please if you don't have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the car up after i have made the payments.

Cheers...

The above is an email I got this morning regarding car on carzone ??? Avoid I guess????

zynaps · 13-03-2011 2:37pm

decies wrote: »

The above is an email I got this morning regarding car on carzone ??? Avoid I guess????

Yes. It's hard to believe anyone would ever fall for these things.

We should probably just have a sticky with the most common template car scams, so when you get an email from the king of Nigeria who is currently engineering at sea but needs a car specifically from Ireland for his neighbour's cat, you can look up the list and match it against the well-known scams.

Wolverine_1999 · 15-03-2011 3:08pm

http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/11/69647311.html

shubj · 15-03-2011 9:16pm

Reading these do really make me laugh. Their English really lets them down. I really hope there aren't people that fall for this. They would be very stupid but I can imagine my mother would fall for something like this. She is very gullable, got a phone call years back congratulating her on winning a holiday to Florida! Yea right. She gave her credit card details and paid a grand to them. Idiot. It still makes me mad to think how stupid she was/still is. She is still adament to this day that she wasn't scammed she just never took the holiday. She's not very well off so not sure how she can be so casual about losing a grand! She doesn't seem to understand that if you don't enter it, you can't win it.

For those 'in the know' please can you explain how the Paypal scam might work if you are only giving them your e-mail address? What action can they take to screw you over?

-Corkie- · 19-03-2011 8:11pm

They send you fake Paypal emails which look totally legit..:)

mickob16 · 29-03-2011 2:01pm

Put the car up for sale on a website.Got a text from someone called Murray but his name came up where someones number would be on my phone.Surely his number should have been sent or come up private no? He asked for price and condition of car which are clearly stated in my ad and asked me to email him directly and gave an email address.Is this some sort of scam?

mullingar · 29-03-2011 2:06pm

Ive got SMS messages from my local bin company and a local take-away with their name in text as the senders number so it is possible, but as always keep your eyes open!

zynaps · 30-03-2011 12:10am

mickob16 wrote: »

Put the car up for sale on a website.Got a text from someone called Murray but his name came up where someones number would be on my phone.Surely his number should have been sent or come up private no? He asked for price and condition of car which are clearly stated in my ad and asked me to email him directly and gave an email address.Is this some sort of scam?

It's hard to say - if you send texts through an SMS gateway you can forge the "from" number to be any alphanumeric string. Back when a few of us were working on SMS/web apps, I sent some testing texts to friends from "God" and "Yore ma!" etc. It could be a legit company like a dealership, or it could be some scammer. His questions don't sound encouraging tho.

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