Pitch And Putt

Wigertoods

Kingdom wrote: »

Oops sorry Hitman thought you didn't get in but you're there. What score did Wiger do?

As hitman pointed out I had 104.Struggled badly to be level after 18.
Started to move on the last 9 but too little too late.
Pitched appallingly and never really got the pace of the greens right.

Tipperman

Draupnir wrote: »

Main reason I suggest expanding to all scratch cups, dublin leagues and even singles strokeplay opens where there is no scratch cup is that the attempt to improve the inter county qualifying system could go hand with an attempt to increase participation in these competitions.

More participation = more money for clubs.

Agreed but one thing that I saw mention on the Dublin Website last year, if players that were chosen on the county team or trying to make the team failed to supports some of the Scr Cups there places could be in jeopardy but I am not sure if the same applies this year...
I know if we failed to Support our Scr Cups down here the clubs would be highly insulted and have every right to be... Top players should make it their business to support events within their County

Draupnir

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that there is a lack of participation from the top players in Dublin, I have no idea of the participation levels at all. I'm just saying that anything that can help on two fronts is a good idea.

Also, a trackable way of qualifying for the Dublin team (or any county for that matter) would certainly increase interest in the sport (both in print and online media).

HITMANHEALY

Anyone going to mcdonagh scratch cup on sunday, great course and worth a play on it if never played before

utd for ever2

The dublin team is always unfairly picked.(paul nolan should have many dublin caps to his name)how he not been on the dublin team is a joke.until trials are brought in or a system is put in place at the start of the season not like last year where half way through the season they came up with a system.dublin players dont support scratch cups bar the regular crew.in lucan we get very bad support from other dublin clubs yet we have 10 or more supporting other clubs scratch cups.we had 15 players in rgsc last year yet only 2 rgsc supported ours(sean and frank).no wounder cork a miles ahead of us.

Tipperman

utd for ever2 wrote: »

The dublin team is always unfairly picked.(paul nolan should have many dublin caps to his name)how he not been on the dublin team is a joke.until trials are brought in or a system is put in place at the start of the season not like last year where half way through the season they came up with a system.dublin players dont support scratch cups bar the regular crew.in lucan we get very bad support from other dublin clubs yet we have 10 or more supporting other clubs scratch cups.we had 15 players in rgsc last year yet only 2 rgsc supported ours(sean and frank).no wounder cork a miles ahead of us.

I don't think that I would agree that Cork are miles ahead.... The reason why they are strong is that their trials' system ensures consistency throughout the season and we do the same in Tipp. Now Tipp are not as strong as Cork but we are as strong as Dublin. The one thing I am always pleased about with the Tipp Team is that whoever makes the team makes it on merit. Our Trials ensure that whoever make it are playing well in the build up for the All Ireland but I would say that having 1 Wildcard is beneficial. Look at Cork, it is looking like Ray Murphy might miss out. He is not missing out due to playing poorly but the four ahead of him have scored magnificently well... He is sure to get the wildcard but at least the Co Board have the option of picking Irelands Finest

Jinkymagic

Tipperman wrote: »

The County Championships will take place at Ballineen on Sat 19th & Sun 20th July

John Walsh v Eoin Shannon
Ray Murphy v Donal Duggan
Frank Dineen v John Sullivan (Majestic)
Darren Collins v John O'Sullivan
Paudi O'Sullivan v Kieran Dunscombe
Gary O'Sullivan v Tadgh Murphy
Brian Delaney v Frank O'Donoghue
Alan Kelly v David Ahern

Some games in store here lads...

:eek: Good luck trying to pick a winner there!

Hey tipperman you didnt happen to see the Cork Intermediate matchplay draw did you?

Tipperman

Jinkymagic wrote: »

:eek: Good luck trying to pick a winner there!

Hey tipperman you didnt happen to see the Cork Intermediate matchplay draw did you?

No Jinky

I will see if I can get it but can't promise anything.. I am sure it will be out soon though.. Sorry about that:(

Jinkymagic

Tipperman wrote: »

No Jinky

I will see if I can get it but can't promise anything.. I am sure it will be out soon though.. Sorry about that:(

Im sure it'll be in the echo tommorow night so no worries!

utd for ever2

Tipperman wrote: »

I don't think that I would agree that Cork are miles ahead.... The reason why they are strong is that their trials' system ensures consistency throughout the season and we do the same in Tipp. Now Tipp are not as strong as Cork but we are as strong as Dublin. The one thing I am always pleased about with the Tipp Team is that whoever makes the team makes it on merit. Our Trials ensure that whoever make it are playing well in the build up for the All Ireland but I would say that having 1 Wildcard is beneficial. Look at Cork, it is looking like Ray Murphy might miss out. He is not missing out due to playing poorly but the four ahead of him have scored magnificently well... He is sure to get the wildcard but at least the Co Board have the option of picking Irelands Finest

tipperman the system cork and tipp have is very fair and you are right your team is picked on merit and that is the big difference in dublin.you could win a dublin s/pay in may and play crap for the rest of the year and then get picked for the intercounty in september.that does not make sense.

HITMANHEALY

utd for ever2 wrote: »

The dublin team is always unfairly picked.(paul nolan should have many dublin caps to his name)how he not been on the dublin team is a joke.until trials are brought in or a system is put in place at the start of the season not like last year where half way through the season they came up with a system.dublin players dont support scratch cups bar the regular crew.in lucan we get very bad support from other dublin clubs yet we have 10 or more supporting other clubs scratch cups.we had 15 players in rgsc last year yet only 2 rgsc supported ours(sean and frank).no wounder cork a miles ahead of us.

I know my club dont support many clubs in the country but we try and get as many to go to the dublin clubs, what i heard is the lucan dont go to many opens would i be right / wrong, if they do its a handful with the size of the club u should have more

utd for ever2

lucan have more players at scratch cups than any other dublin club and also have big entries into all the comps(not just putting names down to get more qualifiers)as far as opens go this is a myth.years ago people did not support opens enough from lucan.this has improved alot.

Tipperman

HITMANHEALY wrote: »

I know my club dont support many clubs in the country but we try and get as many to go to the dublin clubs, what i heard is the lucan dont go to many opens would i be right / wrong, if they do its a handful with the size of the club u should have more

I don't think it is fair to pick on different clubs as this is problem that is being seen throughout the country with regards to supporting clubs.....The one thing all players in each club should try and do is to support your own county.... I have seen this not to happen which is a shame but what can you do!!!

Senior players especially should be encouraging their Clubs Inter and Juniors to play opens etc to gain valuable experience etc etc... A Scratch Cup is aimed at the Senior players and if those players are failing to support the competition, clubs will inevitably have to stop running them....A lot of clubs throughout the country mightn't have Scr Cups but the ones that have every effort should be made by players within its county to play in them... After all not every club is financially secure and a Scratch Cup 9/10 is its biggest source of income...

HITMANHEALY

utd for ever2 wrote: »

lucan have more players at scratch cups than any other dublin club and also have big entries into all the comps(not just putting names down to get more qualifiers)as far as opens go this is a myth.years ago people did not support opens enough from lucan.this has improved alot.

I think Lucan is a fantastic course and will always try and support it when i can, they put alot of effort into getting it in great shape, uts thats the understanding i got for years, its a shame people still do, i know u lads put a great deal into promoting the club and dublin and fair play to u's

Tipperman

utd for ever2 wrote: »

lucan have more players at scratch cups than any other dublin club and also have big entries into all the comps(not just putting names down to get more qualifiers)as far as opens go this is a myth.years ago people did not support opens enough from lucan.this has improved alot.

I believe every Club that do not run an Open but do have Scr Cups have to run an Inter/Junior Scr Cup on the same day.. I know I have these grades that travel with me week in week out and they only ever play for one prize.. It is so unfair on them as there €10 is as important as mine but I get to play for at least 4 prizes... I feel for them but at least in Tipp we have 3 Clubs out of 4 that are currently playing Senior/Inter/Junior Scr Cup on the one day and they are proving very successful....

Does anyone agree with the above concept????

DugOut

I think you are way off the mark with this statementlucan have more players at scratch cups than any other Dublin club . Thats definitely not the case. I have never seen 10 Lucan players at a Scr Cup never mind 15. There does be only 1 or 2 Lucan players at Scr Cups outside Dublin and only a few more at the Dublin Scr Cups. It has always been said that Lucan players don't play outside their club unless it's a Championship and that's reflected in the Lucan Scr Cup by the lack of support they get from outside. I agree that Lucan do have great entries in all the Championships. All the Dublin clubs need to start supporting each other more especially the Seniors in attending Scr Cups.

HITMANHEALY

Tipperman wrote: »

I believe every Club that do not run an Open but do have Scr Cups have to run an Inter/Junior Scr Cup on the same day.. I know I have these grades that travel with me week in week out and they only ever play for one prize.. It is so unfair on them as there €10 is as important as mine but I get to play for at least 4 prizes... I feel for them but at least in Tipp we have 3 Clubs out of 4 that are currently playing Senior/Inter/Junior Scr Cup on the one day and they are proving very successful....

Does anyone agree with the above concept????

Yes i do, and also tipper do they get cut if they win a prize

Tipperman

HITMANHEALY wrote: »

Yes i do, and also tipper do they get cut if they win a prize

Off course they get cut.. They are winning a prize in a 54 O/A competition... Those are the rules... If an Inter of 4 comes 2nd or 3rd etc he will more than likely be noted etc....

Surely if an Inter or Junior was to win a grade prize in a Scr Cup he will be cut depending on whether he was 4 or 9.. Please tell me we have no bandits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

utd for ever2

dugout im not going to get into a argument .ask hitman or gercpm or dt they will all tell you that lucan support scratch cups in dublin and leinster very well.

Tipperman

I am putting my neck on the block

1 - Tracey McGrath
2 - Siobhan Scannell
3 - Chrissie Byrne
4 - Marian Byrne

Will be an interesting competition in one of the best courses in Cork....

adhoc

DugOut wrote: »

I think you are way off the mark with this statementlucan have more players at scratch cups than any other Dublin club . Thats definitely not the case. I have never seen 10 Lucan players at a Scr Cup never mind 15. There does be only 1 or 2 Lucan players at Scr Cups outside Dublin and only a few more at the Dublin Scr Cups. It has always been said that Lucan players don't play outside their club unless it's a Championship and that's reflected in the Lucan Scr Cup by the lack of support they get from outside. I agree that Lucan do have great entries in all the Championships. All the Dublin clubs need to start supporting each other more especially the Seniors in attending Scr Cups.

have to agree with untd that alot of lucan players support all scrath cups and i think the lack of support they get is down to the out side players been unable to win there.There greens are too fast and strong home players

Dromcill

Tipperman wrote: »

Off course they get cut.. They are winning a prize in a 54 O/A competition... Those are the rules... If an Inter of 4 comes 2nd or 3rd etc he will more than likely be noted etc....

Surely if an Inter or Junior was to win a grade prize in a Scr Cup he will be cut depending on whether he was 4 or 9.. Please tell me we have no bandits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a Junior wins a 36 hole scratch cup (Junior Grade prize), they will be automatically be cut one shot (even if a junior off 9 shoots 10 over and wins he will go down to Intermediate). An Inter between 5 and 8 will be cut 1 shot if he wins a 36 hole scratch cup (Intermediate Grade Prize).

Not sure about an Inter playing off 4 as I think he has to win 3prizes to be cut to senior.

However, if a Junior or Inter wins the overall scratch cup then the handicap cutting knives are out for sure and an inquiry would have to take place between the club and the PPUI regarding the handicap of the player.

Has a Junior (most unlikely) or Inter (possible) ever won the main prize at a scratch cup?

HITMANHEALY

adhoc wrote: »

have to agree with untd that alot of lucan players support all scrath cups and i think the lack of support they get is down to the out side players been unable to win there.There greens are too fast and strong home players

adhoc aren't u from lucan

Tipperman

think the lack of support they get is down to the out side players been unable to win there.There greens are too fast and strong home players[/quote]

I have to say the above is not an accurate comment at all. Lucan Scr Cup clashed with Ryston this year and there is no way Southern players are going to pass Ryston to play Lucan and come back and play Ryston etc... This theory about greens being too fast is a myth.. If you are a good putter you should be able to put on any greens... The lack of support comes down to it clashing with another Scr Cup.. I know from my point of view I certainly wouldn't be afraid of playing there and actually enjoy playing there when I do....The home players are strong but are not home players strong in all scratch cups... This should only wet players appetites to try and beat them on their home track:rolleyes:

adhoc

Tipperman wrote: »

I am putting my neck on the block

1 - Tracey McGrath
2 - Siobhan Scannell
3 - Chrissie Byrne
4 - Marian Byrne

Will be an interesting competition in one of the best courses in Cork....

think the winner will come from this group cant see them all in the top 4 if i where a betting man siobhon?

Tipperman

Dromcill wrote: »

If a Junior wins a 36 hole scratch cup (Junior Grade prize), they will be automatically be cut one shot (even if a junior off 9 shoots 10 over and wins he will go down to Intermediate). An Inter between 5 and 8 will be cut 1 shot if he wins a 36 hole scratch cup (Intermediate Grade Prize).

Not sure about an Inter playing off 4 as I think he has to win 3prizes to be cut to senior.

However, if a Junior or Inter wins the overall scratch cup then the handicap cutting knives are out for sure and an inquiry would have to take place between the club and the PPUI regarding the handicap of the player.

Has a Junior (most unlikely) or Inter (possible) ever won the main prize at a scratch cup?

Gus Hayes of Parteen won Bruff as an Inter and James O'Donovan of Bruff won Mellows as and Inter... It is only right that an Inter gets cut if they won a Scr Cup.. It is a major achievement in my view....I actually thought you had to win 3 prizes also off 9 to get cut to 8....

Dromcill

Tipperman wrote: »

I am putting my neck on the block

1 - Tracey McGrath
2 - Siobhan Scannell
3 - Chrissie Byrne
4 - Marian Byrne

Will be an interesting competition in one of the best courses in Cork....

Good predictions, I would say Siobhan will go very close as she will be used to the course and she is playing very well at the moment. Also she will be motivated to do well after missing the matchplay.

DugOut

utd for ever2 wrote: »

dugout im not going to get into a argument .ask hitman or gercpm or dt they will all tell you that lucan support scratch cups in dublin and leinster very well.

I am very familar with the Scr Cup scene Nationally and have been for many years so I won't be needing to ask anyone. I can name the Dublin players that play in Scr Cups outside Dublin. Lucan are not great supporters only 1 or 2 players play outside Dublin and if you get 10 at a Dublin Scr Cup thats good going.

Adhoc your wayoff with your post. As for players being afraid to play Lucan because of the home players and the fast greens surely thats a challenge for any player. To play a great course agaisnt the great players Lucan have and try win.

utd for ever2

tipperman we would love to see you up in lucan.im only having a a moan about dublin players.we have made a big effort the last few years.dugout needs to get his facts right.

hitman are all the matches going to be finished this week in the leagues.

adhoc

DugOut wrote: »

I am very familar with the Scr Cup scene Nationally and have been for many years so I won't be needing to ask anyone. I can name the Dublin players that play in Scr Cups outside Dublin. Lucan are not great supporters only 1 or 2 players play outside Dublin and if you get 10 at a Dublin Scr Cup thats good going.

Adhoc your wayoff with your post. As for players being afraid to play Lucan because of the home players and the fast greens surely thats a challenge for any player. To play a great course agaisnt the great players Lucan have and try win.

not what i ment at all dont think anybody is afraid to play lucan just my opinion that givin a choice they go elswhere