Trying to conceive/Planned parenthood/Assisted Reproduction Chat thread.

carlyam2

had our doc apt and it was heart breaking we have basically been told it wont happen naturally and we have to pick a clinic to be referred to so im unsure as to which one to go to.
ive been trying to gage them with the wonderful help of google we have choice of clane hari or sims does anyone have any experience with them i just want the human opinions.
part of us is veering towards the hari more because its been there the longest and i was born there even if we need to travel to get to there.
i have to admit even if i had an idea our road was going to be difficult i still thought we might be able to do it on our own and not have to go down the ivf road. im not sure if we are going to tell our parents till we have to. i just sometimes feel alone in the battle i know its not widely talked about unless were here on this great site but it would be nice to hear it in everyday conversation im totally sick of the whole oh we didnt even think about it and bam we have a child i just wish both sides were openly talked about.
right rant over

ireland1

Hi all - I readl this board every now and then but have never posted, but wanted to tonight as Carly, I am so sorry to hear that you unexpectedly hit a brick wall. There are both a lot of heartbreaking and inspiring stories on this board, but I hope you find comfort and strength. I can get what you mean about assumptions from others - we are 3 years 3 months trying, and I had a lap just before Christmas where they removed lots of cysts (which we knew about) and endo which we did not know about as it was at the back of the womb. It never showed on any internal scans but did on the lap. We made the decision to be open with our families and a few close friends and I honestly do not think I could cope any other way - whether it someone to cry with or someone to scream with! We were offered IVF last year but my partner got cold feet about it (grrrrrr!), but we have made the decision to go naturally for a few months now the endo is gone, then will try timed induction, and then IVF is necessary - but still worry that number 1, I will even need to go that far down the road, and number 2, that himself will get cold feet again if we do. Anyway, take care of yourself.

barbiegirl

Carlyam2 I found that once we talked about it to friends and family we found the stress instantly lessened, plus that others were going through exactly the same thing. Best of luck you will get through it. I've never been to Clane but we found Sims to be a sale job and didn't take to them at all. That's just our opinion though.

carlyam2

thanks barbie and ireland i think im going to have to tell my parents i would prefer that i think it would lessen the wait i feel for a grandchild. my husband is a bit more reluctent but i think its cause he is the last sibling not to have had a child yet he is the only one married even i feel the pressure there.
i have told 2 friends about it and i love the fact i can talk to them about it.
i wasnt overly impressed with clane over the phone hari were lovely seemed to understand so i think that has made our decison.
thanks for the sounding board it makes it less alone of a journey

stargirl.gra

I'm really diappointed:( as mentioned before i'm on clomid so each month i have my day 21 bloods done (i've finished two months of the drug and i was increased from 50mg up to100mg last month) so i had my blood done the other day and they just rang to say i've to go up to 150mg. Ok fine by me but then i asked her what my numbers were. Before the drug it was 29 and then the next month 30.5.First month of the drug 38.5 and this month.....26 feels to me then that there may be a blockage or something if i'm not ovulating? I got a positive ovulation test day 15 this cycle though? Very confused. Anyone any experience?

carlyam2

hey again girls after 4 months of no period it arrived today was happy to see it it also exlpains me screaming at my poor other half for farting over the weekend.
we decided on our hospital for the treatment and doc has sent our letter so now were just waiting on our apt have finally got it into my head its unlikely to happen without help so after talking we are good with it now and i told my mam today and it actually felt like a huge weight lifted off my head that she isnt waiting on news of grandchildren.
sorry to hear that stargirl hope it all works out for you

bobskii

I found the same when i told my mum!she was great about it,and it did left a weight because before i told her she used to think i wouldnt give my husband a child!!

yellow hen

bobskii wrote: »

I found the same when i told my mum!she was great about it,and it did left a weight because before i told her she used to think i wouldnt give my husband a child!!

I told my mum too and bless, she used to go to the church to light a candle and say a prayer for us. Whether it was the prayers or the lap to remove cysts but we did get pregnant. Sometimes I think it was telling people and lifting the weight a bit that helped us conceive. Whatever it was, I hope things work out for you girls too. X

bobskii

yellow hen wrote: »

I told my mum too and bless, she used to go to the church to light a candle and say a prayer for us. Whether it was the prayers or the lap to remove cysts but we did get pregnant. Sometimes I think it was telling people and lifting the weight a bit that helped us conceive. Whatever it was, I hope things work out for you girls too. X

ah my mum does the same she's a dote,we've our appointment at the hari in two weeks so we'll concentrate on that now

carlyam2

it really was a weight off me and god bless my mam she was so nice and she was saying she would never have put pressure on us to have kids esp seeing as an aunt had issues when we were little.
she is on at me now to start our weight loss and in all fairness i have my poor hubby is coming home to a quorn mince spagetti thinking its lean mince ha ha.
bobski hope all goes well at your hari apt and if you wouldnt mind letting me know how you get on as thats where we have decided on as well. the lady i was talking to yesterday really couldnt have been nicer to me.
good luck

bobskii

carlyam2 wrote: »

it really was a weight off me and god bless my mam she was so nice and she was saying she would never have put pressure on us to have kids esp seeing as an aunt had issues when we were little.
she is on at me now to start our weight loss and in all fairness i have my poor hubby is coming home to a quorn mince spagetti thinking its lean mince ha ha.
bobski hope all goes well at your hari apt and if you wouldnt mind letting me know how you get on as thats where we have decided on as well. the lady i was talking to yesterday really couldnt have been nicer to me.
good luck

Sure it won't do him any harm:D
I will of course,my doc referred us to the hari and she's a really good doc so i trust her choice,will let you know how we go anyway!

Philipismylife

Hi,this is my first time doin something like this so I'm a little all over the place. Basically I'm 27, have a 4yr old & have bein ttc for the last 2years. Went to my gp about it in October,got the necessary blood tests done he told me I might have diminished ovarian reserve & I'm now on a waiting list to see the infertility specialist in Tralee. I've no idea what to expect when I do eventually get an app, can't afford to go private & my heads wrecked every month when my period comes

stickybean

Philipismylife wrote: »

Hi,this is my first time doin something like this so I'm a little all over the place. Basically I'm 27, have a 4yr old & have bein ttc for the last 2years. Went to my gp about it in October,got the necessary blood tests done he told me I might have diminished ovarian reserve & I'm now on a waiting list to see the infertility specialist in Tralee. I've no idea what to expect when I do eventually get an app, can't afford to go private & my heads wrecked every month when my period comes

Hi Philipismylife,

Welcome to trying to conceive boards! I haven't heard to a diminished ovarian reserves before, but I am sure one of the girls on here will have been through it before and might be able to advise xxx

I know how you feel with the arrival of your period. I pray every month it won't come, then cry when it does. We have our first appointment this month with a fertility specialist. Will post how it goes

Sb xx

pwurple

Low ovarian reserve is from the FSH test coming back with low levels. It's what they use to guage how many eggs you have left. Women are born with a fixed amount, and they deplete over our lifetimes. 27 is very young to be getting that result. I've heard of it in my friends at age 37. I'd get it repeated to check the test was done right.

It isn't the end of the line. I know two couples with low ovarian reserves who have conceived. Both had fertility treatment.

carolinespring

Long story short.

We went back to our Consultant the end of January and he gave me meds that will hopefully sorts out the issue. I really wanted to let rip at him but I just cried, felt very let down in myself.

The plan is I take the meds for 3 months then all the bloods are redone to see if the issues is resolved. So that s going to be 5 months. By then it will be July and I will be nearer 41 than 40. If I don't fall right away I could be hitting 42 if we are lucky to have a baby. I suppose I hoped that we would get the medication and be able to start right away and that before Christmas we would have a beautiful, healthy baby. Now I feel, well that's just it I just don't know what I feel.

I am finding it really hard going this week, feel in a really shi**y place. I just want to cry all the time and feel upset and worried all the time. My husband is just the same. In fact he burst into tears last night. He is also stressed to the gills. It all boils down to time not being on our side and if this is not the answer then that is it for us, no baby and life has to go on. We are snapping at each other, something that we never do. I went to the gym last night just to try and work the stress out of me, came back and cried for a hour. Went to ed and slept like a log.

Its just we can't take another disappointment, I can't live with that pain again and if for any reason this does not work, well I don't have anymore time on my side. i suppose its just being afraid of what might or might not happen and the having to wait makes me ( and my husband) feel like we are in a pressure cooker that's ready to blow.

I know on paper it looks like everything should go well this time but at the back of my mind is the what if's.

Sorry for the rant. xxx

carlyam2

oh caroline rant away. as for the crying your entitled to cry as is your husband were only starting our journey and i know myself and my husband deal with things completely differently me i love to rant moan and basically talk about it and he just lets it fester and doesnt really want to acknowledge it at times.
i dont really have much advice but rant away get it out its better out than in.
i have all crossed for you that everything works.

pwurple

Caroline, don't let your age get you down one bit. My grandmother was married 15 years before she had her first child at age 36. She went on to have 10 healthy children.... my father when she was 47 and the last baby at age 52. That's a decade away from 42. Don't worry a bit. People don't hit the menopause until their 50's... Late 50's sometimes. One of my best friends had her two perfect children at age 44 and 45. You have a good long time to go, and you are getting stuck into it with the doctors. All my fingers and toes crossed for you.

Ms2011

☆Hugs Caroline☆
If it helps my SIL had a beautiful baby girl on Wednesday aged 41.
I have everything crossed that this will work for you x

carolinespring

Just out of interest as I the oldest wantabe Mammy on here? I know loads of women have babies in their 40's in fact I have a friend who is expecting her first child at 45 after conceiving on her honeymoon in October but with our history it is worrying.

Lucyfur

carolinespring wrote: »

Just out of interest as I the oldest wantabe Mammy on here? I know loads of women have babies in their 40's in fact I have a friend who is expecting her first child at 45 after conceiving on her honeymoon in October but with our history it is worrying.

Chick, I know it's little consolation to you, but I was chatting to a woman yesterday who had her youngest at 45. She said it's not different now as it was when she had her eldest 26 years ago I wouldn't get too hooked up on the age thing. I had always said that I'd be done by 30...that didn't happen
Once your body is health and your mind is capable. That's all that matters, IMHO x

bobskii

carolinespring wrote: »

Just out of interest as I the oldest wantabe Mammy on here? I know loads of women have babies in their 40's in fact I have a friend who is expecting her first child at 45 after conceiving on her honeymoon in October but with our history it is worrying.

I'll be 37 this year,i already have a 17 year old so the longer this goes on the bigger the age gap,suppose it doesnt really matter at this stage though:eek:

Roesy

Saw the endocrinologist for my yearly check up and we worked out a bit of a plan. If after this cycle and my next cycle things haven't settled into a shorter pattern its back on the metformin I go. We'll try that for 6 months during which time if I don't conceive again we are then looking at clomid. Back to him in 8 months again. Seems like ages away but hopefully things will happen before then. PMS is kicking in early, judging by when I ovulated I still have a week to go. Trying not to snap peoples heads off is tiring!

barbiegirl

I'm on my longest ever cycle and so fed up waiting. It's 34 days so far, I'm normally 26! Or at least I was before the ops. I have a sore eye and as the drops I got said not to take if I could be preggers I did a test and it was negative, which as we weren't meant to get up the duff this month is actually good news. I was on too many hormones. Ahhhh I just want it to start already.

ashl

barbiegirl wrote: »

I'm on my longest ever cycle and so fed up waiting. It's 34 days so far, I'm normally 26! Or at least I was before the ops. I have a sore eye and as the drops I got said not to take if I could be preggers I did a test and it was negative, which as we weren't meant to get up the duff this month is actually good news. I was on too many hormones. Ahhhh I just want it to start already.

Hi Barbiegirl,

Sorry to hear you are getting fed up! I'm sure you feel like you have been waiting for ages. I had seen your posts a while back when you were sharing the story of your journey and your lap with Mr A. I am due to have my lap with Mr A in a week for a blocked tube and endo and have not been allowed to TTC for the last 3 months which feels like ages so I can only imagine how you feel. Did Dr B put you on hormones straight after your surgery or did you have to wait awhile to get over the lap?

I really hope your cycle gets back on track and you get your BPF soon.

A

barbiegirl

Hi Ashl I was out on hrt to help my womb heal after the op to remove a septum and fibroid. After the lap I had anti biotecs but no hormones. I was in no state for trying for about 4 week's after the lap. The plan is to try ourselves next cycle with no hormones. Monitor and get a base level for my cycle now and then the following cycle start napro hormones trigger injections etc.
It does feel like ages it's been 4.5 years now so I really feel our sticky is due. Dr A is thorough and was the only doc to spot the septum which was undoubtedly the reason behind our 3 misses.
We will both get our bfp soon

ashl

barbiegirl wrote: »

Hi Ashl I was out on hrt to help my womb heal after the op to remove a septum and fibroid. After the lap I had anti biotecs but no hormones. I was in no state for trying for about 4 week's after the lap. The plan is to try ourselves next cycle with no hormones. Monitor and get a base level for my cycle now and then the following cycle start napro hormones trigger injections etc.
It does feel like ages it's been 4.5 years now so I really feel our sticky is due. Dr A is thorough and was the only doc to spot the septum which was undoubtedly the reason behind our 3 misses.
We will both get our bfp soon

Sounds like a plan Barbiegirl! I hope you get your BFP over the next couple of cycles as it sounds like you have been on a long road but it sounds positive overall now thankfully. I'm delighted Mr A found the septum and I'm hoping he will find out what is wrong with me and fix it too! I'll keep my fingers crossed for us both this year!!!

Ashl

yellow hen

barbiegirl wrote: »

I'm on my longest ever cycle and so fed up waiting. It's 34 days so far, I'm normally 26! Or at least I was before the ops. I have a sore eye and as the drops I got said not to take if I could be preggers I did a test and it was negative, which as we weren't meant to get up the duff this month is actually good news. I was on too many hormones. Ahhhh I just want it to start already.

You had no luck on your shorter cycles so fingers crossed a change to the trend in cycle length indicates a change to your chance of conception too. X

DetectivFoxtrot

Hi Ladies, so, after a second failed IVF last month (two embies transferred) and a consultant who openly admits he can't find anything the hell wrong with me:rolleyes:, I'm thinking (and loathing at the same time due to their stoopid rules) of talking to Napro. Any advice/thoughts/experience?

Neyite

DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »

Hi Ladies, so, after a second failed IVF last month (two embies transferred) and a consultant who openly admits he can't find anything the hell wrong with me:rolleyes:, I'm thinking (and loathing at the same time due to their stoopid rules) of talking to Napro. Any advice/thoughts/experience?

I'm so sorry to hear that it failed for you DF.

Regarding Napro, their ethos grate on me personally, but tbh, I think there might be something to their in-depth analysis of the hormonal causes. I think that a lot of unexplained infertilty lies inbetween the ovulation and conception/implantation phase that ordinary assisted conception does not address. I mean they can help us ovulate, help fertilise, but thats it, and when you look at the chain of hormones required to be lined up from fertilisation stage to implant, even a small gap in that chain means no success.

I was considering Napro prior to IUI/IVF if the Clomid route didnt work for me. But, if they wanted a piece of paper from a registry office, I'd have done it on my lunch or something, it so didnt matter to me if I thought that they could help. I think Iguana, Barbiegirl and Carolinespring had positive outcomes to Napro, so you might want to talk to them. Iguana had a very good thread on it somewhere, I'll dig it out.

Neyite

Here you go.

Napro Experiences