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Drinking on good Friday

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    #152
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Mossy Monk wrote:
    There is nothing to explain. A pub is as much a valid business as say a shop. Why aren't the shops forced to close? Can you give me a reason why they should be closed? And don't bother with the staff need a day off bull****. They get the same days off the rest of use get.

    Are you having a laugh? The trade a pub trades in differs immensly. Are you trying to comparing a social visit to purchase alchohol which is only permitted to those over the age of 18, to visiting your e.g. local convenience store for groceries?

    Its nothing to do with staff needing a day off. If the church was calling the shots, all business would be shut in respect of the sacrifice Christ made for all sinners. However the church isnt calling the shots, the government is. The government comprises of predominantly catholic politicians however.

    So do you think that the pubs should stay open from an economical perspective or because you should call the shots as to whether or not you can sit in a pub drinking alcohol?


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    #153
    mloc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    You certainly don't see off licenses complaining, they get all the trade they usually get on a friday on the thursday PLUS most of the trade bars would get. Sweet deal!


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    #154
    Mossy Monk
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    faceman wrote:
    So do you think that the pubs should stay open from an economical perspective or because you should call the shots as to whether or not you can sit in a pub drinking alcohol?

    Because I want to call the shots? What are you on about. I said before and will say it again that all publicans should be given the choice of opening or closing. And what does the church have to do with it?


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    #155
    Stabshauptmann
    Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Why do we have the same thread every year?


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    #156
    robinph
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    Kaptain Redeye wrote:
    Why do we have the same thread every year?
    Becasue they still force the pubs to close on the first day of the longest weekend of the year, and people will still be annoyed about this next year as well.


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    #157
    DarkJager
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    Exactly.... Whatever government we get next, I hope they will kick the church and their ridiculous rituals and days out of the bed. Modern Ireland has no place for meaningless christian holidays...


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    #158
    seamus
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    DarkJager wrote:
    Exactly.... Whatever government we get next, I hope they will kick the church and their ridiculous rituals and days out of the bed. Modern Ireland has no place for meaningless christian holidays...
    I guess we'll all be working on the 17th of March, Easter Monday and the 25th & 26th of December so...

    More seriously though, the idea of banning certain goods or practices on particular days in accordance with a particular religion is a little horrific. The main problem is that
    a) No politician wants to dip their toes in that water - the Catholic Church will come up with all sorts of, "Please think of the children", and "What about the family?!" FUD. You also have to remember that a large portion of the voting public are still quite Catholic and would be slightly unhappy at the removal of the ban.

    b) None of the rest of the electorate care about it *that* much. Except on Good Friday. When they're pissed out of their heads, but can't get their hands on more booze.


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    #159
    DarkJager
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    Thats why the government needs to get a fvcking backbone and start refusing the church in decision and law making. Not everybody is a religious nut these days and I don't see why a whole nation has to suffer just because of one religion...


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    #160
    oblivious
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    MikeHoncho wrote:
    At least we are not a Quaker country:

    Bournivile is a Quaker town set up by Mr Cadburys chocys himself and their is no alcohal in the whole town 365 days a year.


    I think you missed his point, when was the last time an employer or government cared enough about you and your well being to provide you with a town and a roof over you head out of there own pocket!


    Looks like the villagers were very happy with the ban

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1257573,00.html?f=rss

    Councillor Nigel Dawkins said the decision was a "fantastic" result.

    He said: "This shows Tesco that they have to talk to communities and they cannot just walk over them.

    "This has put a line in the sand - people like Tesco who think they can come and sell alcohol without consulting the communities cannot."


    The legal ruling will be welcomed by the 1,000 villagers who signed a petition asking Tesco to respect their traditions.

    "Bournville have always had a no alcohol ruling," said one villager. "It would be a shame to spoil all that."


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    #161
    DarkJager
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    1st Place award for the most boring, self righteous town in the world...


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    #162
    coffee_cake
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    DarkJager wrote:
    1st Place award for the most boring, self righteous town in the world...

    Like that calvinist town sometime in the 19thC


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    #163
    Dr.Bunson
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    If I were an non-Catholic pub owner, I would challenge the legality of not allowing me to do business, earn money, and provide for my family on Good Friday, given the fact that it is forcing a religion on me that I do not believe in.

    There are so many loopholes in the law that it should be thrown out of the constitution....


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    #164
    humanji
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    Dr.Bunson wrote:
    If I were an non-Catholic pub owner, I would challenge the legality of not allowing me to do business, earn money, and provide for my family on Good Friday, given the fact that it is forcing a religion on me that I do not believe in.

    There are so many loopholes in the law that it should be thrown out of the constitution....
    I'd say if you were a pub owner you'd be happy for the day off and spend it with your friends and family like everyone else. :D


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    #165
    Cactus Col
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    Is alcohol allowed to be sold on good friday in any other traditionally Christian / Catholic country? I have a feeling that Ireland is pretty much one of the few, if not the only, country to have such a law. I've always viewed this as less a religious tradition, and more an Irish one (if that makes sense).
    It would be a shame to lose it because people have a problem with "organised religion" these days.


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    #166
    Cactus Col
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    Is alcohol allowed to be sold on good friday in any other traditionally Christian / Catholic country? I have a feeling that Ireland is pretty much one of the few, if not the only, country to have such a law. I've always viewed this as less a religious tradition, and more an Irish one (if that makes sense).
    It would be a shame to lose it because people have a problem with "organised religion" these days.


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    #167
    Cactus Col
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    Is alcohol allowed to be sold on good friday in any other traditionally Christian / Catholic country? I have a feeling that Ireland is pretty much one of the few, if not the only, country to have such a law. I've always viewed this as less a religious tradition, and more an Irish one (if that makes sense).
    It would be a shame to lose it because people have a problem with "organised religion" these days.


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    #168
    mountainyman
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    The amount people drink in this country is disgraceful. 'They' ought to ban drink EVERY friday.

    MM


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    #169
    JC 2K3
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    Fascism ftw.


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    #170
    humanji
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    mountainyman wrote:
    The amount people drink in this country is disgraceful. 'They' ought to ban drink EVERY friday.

    MM


    Yes because it works so well on Good Friday :rolleyes:


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    #171
    Nature Boy
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    Cactus Col wrote:
    Is alcohol allowed to be sold on good friday in any other traditionally Christian / Catholic country? I have a feeling that Ireland is pretty much one of the few,

    Was in England on Good Friday and the pubs were open! :)


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    #172
    oblivious
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    DarkJager wrote:
    1st Place award for the most boring, self righteous town in the world...


    Look at Liz Hurley who is been sued by here father in law for mocking the Hindu religion. On of the reason sited was the consumption of alcohol before the ceremony and by the way India is the largest democracy on the world!


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    #173
    Soby
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    Probably been asked like 1 million times and I'm sorry but whats the story with clubs Thursday night?Do they stop serving at 12 and do they close at 12 as well?


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    #174
    likely_lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    not sure if im posting in the right forum, dont really care either :o move it if you want


    basic Q really - on the thurday right before good friday will the pubs/clubs close at 12? i really wanted a night out that night:eek:


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    #175
    Soby
    Registered Users Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    Thread here

    But +1 i also wanna know about thursday night


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    #176
    Mimikyu
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    #177
    pierrot
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    Can yis not do without for one day of the year? ;)


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    #178
    likely_lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    im an atheist so dont see why i should have to and good friday is the last friday im gonna have off work for the next two months so i wanted to have a thursday night so thats my reason for not wanting to do without if you really need to know


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    #179
    zootroid
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    pierrot wrote: »
    Can yis not do without for one day of the year? ;)

    I can do without for plenty of days during the year, but they're normally Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. I don't see why I should not be allowed buy alcohol due to someone elses religious beliefs

    It's probably the worst day of the year. You still have to work, but can't go to the pub after a long week


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    #180
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Friday nights are over rated anyway. Anyway, its one night, the calender didn't consire to screw you out of a night out, your boss did.

    Don't pull the "Religion/Athiest its not fair" card, its the LAW. Other countries have stricter laws on drinking, be glad your not in Dirkmenistan. You get your liver whipped for having a shandy there!

    Oh, and here. Have a big bucket of punctuation. Seriously, its on me. Go nuts.


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    #181
    Xavi6
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    likely_lass wrote: »
    im an atheist so dont see why i should have to and good friday is the last friday im gonna have off work for the next two months so i wanted to have a thursday night so thats my reason for not wanting to do without if you really need to know

    Well if it wasn't for Catholicism you wouldn't have the Friday off in the first place.


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