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800 Euro for a month ?!?!?!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    rb_ie wrote:
    Good! I hope it didn't 'cause a dent in your budget for the month, wouldn't want those bills being paid late now would we.

    Are we being smart there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    rb_ie wrote:
    Its just common sense ffs. Clearly I can go out and spend whatever I like, I still live at home, I don't pay for rent/groceries/bills etc. I don't have a loan, I don't have insurance or any other financial burdens. Obviously as you get older, circumstances change and you've to budget for things.


    its not a budgetory thing its just old age :D:D i can well afford to go clubbing ive just out grown it. it'll happen to you whippersnappers too. there comes a point where you just look at yourself and think "what am i doing here". its kind of a cosmic joke cause by the time you get to my age you usually have a place of your own so you dont have to worry about waking the parents when you bring a girl back or being nagged when sciving off work cause of the hangover. yet this is the time you realise you couldnt be arsed:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    rb_ie wrote:
    Its just common sense ffs. Clearly I can go out and spend whatever I like, I still live at home, I don't pay for rent/groceries/bills etc. I don't have a loan, I don't have insurance or any other financial burdens. Obviously as you get older, circumstances change and you've to budget for things.

    What you also don't have is a concept of money. To spend over €200 in a single night out is digusting, especially when it's at least half funded by your parents. Do you not feel the least bit guilty that you're pissing away their hard earned cash?

    Maybe if you had a bit of cop on you could spend less on a night out and either not take their money out of respect or else do something worthwhile like save it. €100 is still a huge amount for a night out. Or will you still be looking for €90 hand outs at the age of 40 when you live at home and still have no rent/groceries/bills to pay?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    rb_ie wrote:
    €12 for a JD and coke.
    Why would you pay that? A 12 year old Jameson will set you back less than half that in any decent bar in the city centre, a regular Jameson a third. And €18 for a double vodka and redbull? That's more than a full bottle of half decent vodka. Obviously you enjoy the venue, but for **** sake... You're taking one for the team every time you drop €12 or €18 on one of those. It's not even a question of spending money that could be spent on bills, it's a question of being shafted and trying to justify it with the good time that you had. I could happily afford to spend €200 a week on boozing (outside of my rent and bills) but you're not going to see it happen anytime soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Xavi6 wrote:
    What you also don't have is a concept of money. To spend over €200 in a single night out is digusting, especially when it's at least half funded by your parents. Do you not feel the least bit guilty that you're pissing away their hard earned cash?

    May I refer you to
    rb_ie wrote:
    The few nights out in question were last year, I had an awful lot of money coming in and no expenses (rent,bills etc) so blowing off that amount once or twice didn't make much of an effect.

    The nights in question didn't cause them a cent. It was money I had worked for.
    Xavi6 wrote:
    Maybe if you had a bit of cop on you could spend less on a night out and either not take their money out of respect or else do something worthwhile like save it.
    Again, refer to above.
    Xavi6 wrote:
    €100 is still a huge amount for a night out.
    Not really. Maybe to some people, to me it isn't. When I was working I was earning well above the minimum wage, putting in as many hours a week as I could and doing extra where possible. I also had other money coming in, with no money going out (bills/rent etc). You may be surprised to hear, but I'm actually quite good with money. Money of my own that is.

    I'd also ask you, if you're going to try your little heart out to have a go at me, please read the thread and relevant posts properly.
    Your effort did provide me with some amusement though, thanks :D
    Lodgepole wrote:
    A 12 year old Jameson will set you back less than half that in any decent bar in the city centre, a regular Jameson a third

    A JD and coke for €4?Which bar are you getting these from? As I said in other posts, the bar in question is expensive. More so than most bars in the city centre. Half the JD and cokes price I quoted was from the mixer i.e the coke cost €6. The place is expensive, I accepted that the minute I walked into the front door.
    That said, until 11 they're a bit cheaper, they jack the prices up after 11pm.
    Again, these were rare/special occasions. Its not as though I'm going out and blowing €270 every night I go into town. That would be ridiculous. These days its about €100 or so on average.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    rb_ie wrote:
    A JD and coke for €4?Which bar are you getting these from? As I said in other posts, the bar in question is expensive. More so than most bars in the city centre. Half the JD and cokes price I quoted was from the mixer i.e the coke cost €6. The place is expensive, I accepted that the minute I walked into the front door.
    A neat Jameson would cost you €4 and a €2 coke should spread across at least two of them if you need to mix it. Spend the extra euro on the 12 year old and you'll lose the need to mix, although I daresay a bar that serves up JD and coke for €12 won't offer you value for money on good whiskey. The coke alone is €6? You're happy with the price but when you sit back and consider it, does your enjoyment justify the fact that you were taken to the cleaners for the privelage of drinking in the bar you were in? They ripped you off in a major and very unnecessary way. I wouldn't be happy with that. You're in a fancy bar drinking a cheap drink but paying top dollar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Xavi6 wrote:
    What you also don't have is a concept of money. To spend over €200 in a single night out is digusting, especially when it's at least half funded by your parents. Do you not feel the least bit guilty that you're pissing away their hard earned cash?

    Maybe if you had a bit of cop on you could spend less on a night out and either not take their money out of respect or else do something worthwhile like save it. €100 is still a huge amount for a night out. Or will you still be looking for €90 hand outs at the age of 40 when you live at home and still have no rent/groceries/bills to pay?

    I have to say I agree 100% with the above. You have no concept of the value of money whatsoever. You have no monetary responsibilities whatsoever and I read in another thread that when your earning your folks take 100 euro off you to put aside for when you move out. I too believe that amount spent disgusting.

    I notice you didn't reply to my above post on whether you where being smart or not....I got the impression you were laughing at me because my night out was pretty simple by your standards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    rb_ie wrote:
    I'd also ask you, if you're going to try your little heart out to have a go at me, please read the thread and relevant posts properly.
    Your effort did provide me with some amusement though, thanks :D

    Ah so you're a patronising clown as well as a fool with money? Quite the person.

    Whatever way you try justify yourself the simple fact remains that the amount you spend on a night out is ridiculous, although being as spoilt as you are I suppose you're parents are just as much to blame as you are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    I spent about €250 at the weekend. Got two taxi's. Total cost of them was €12.
    I didn't hit a niteclub or anything. €100 on a night out which involves clubbing and what not is acceptable. I personally like having a few extra € in my pocket on a night out. Nine times out of ten I'll spend it. I don't give a flying fook if someone thinks its a bit much. As for €20 as the bare minimum. Not a hope.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Xavi6 wrote:
    Ah so you're a patronising clown as well as a fool with money? Quite the person.

    Whatever way you try justify yourself the simple fact remains that the amount you spend on a night out is ridiculous, although being as spoilt as you are I suppose you're parents are just as much to blame as you are.

    Once again v well said Xavi.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I cannot see how this could be spent in a single night in Dublin unless you were buying a rake of drink for other people, drinking to absolute excess or going mad in a casino or lap dancing club.


    rb_ie wrote:
    but other nights have cost as much as €270, though that was definately the record.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    petes wrote:
    I spent about €250 at the weekend. Got two taxi's. Total cost of them was €12.
    I didn't hit a niteclub or anything. €100 on a night out which involves clubbing and what not is acceptable. I personally like having a few extra € in my pocket on a night out. Nine times out of ten I'll spend it. I don't give a flying fook if someone thinks its a bit much. As for €20 as the bare minimum. Not a hope.

    is that 250 in one night?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    TheGooner wrote:
    is that 250 in one night?


    No, over the whole weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    ah well then!

    We're discussing someone who spent that in one night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    TheGooner wrote:
    ah well then!

    We're discussing someone who spent that in one night.


    I know. I have spent €200 plus on a night out previously. Not a regular occurrence mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Are the 250 quid people being completely straight here? On these mad nights out; are the following factors in evidence?

    Drugs
    Lap dancing/gambling
    Paying for two meals/drinks, like a date
    Day-night hard drinking.
    Taxis to mad out of town locations

    I have spent up to 150 on some nights. If you are out for a day-night session or get on the wrong end of large rounds etc. However the only time I have spent up to 200+ is when one (or more) of the above factors comes into play
    petes wrote:
    I know. I have spent €200 plus on a night out previously. Not a regular occurrence mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    stovelid wrote:
    Drugs
    Lap dancing
    Day-night hard drinking.

    These three have come into the equation. Not all at the same time though. If I am out all day and night it can come to a hefty price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I disagree.

    You tend to go to pricier place when you are older. Also you tend to treat yourself more. More taxis, no happy-hours-for-the-sake-of-it etc.

    When I was a student, it was socially acceptable to avoid rounds and just buy your own drink.

    At my age, you go out and you end up buying people drinks. The round system is not perfect, you can end up getting on the right or wrong end of it IMO.

    Not saying it's right or wrong but just that I find you spend more money as you get older.


    TheGooner wrote:
    serveral people have stated that they spent like it was going out of fashion when they where younger, myself included. Now I am a lot older I dont. .


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    stovelid wrote:
    I disagree.

    You tend to go to pricier place when you are older. Also you tend to treat yourself more. More taxis, no happy-hours-for-the-sake-of-it etc.

    When I was a student, it was socially acceptable to avoid rounds and just buy your own drink.

    At my age, you go out and you end up buying people drinks. The round system is not perfect, you can end up getting on the right or wrong end of it IMO.

    Not saying it's right or wrong but just that I find you spend more money as you get older.

    Well I was coming from the point of view that now I am older I simply do not have the inclination to pisss 200 quid against the wall for the sake of it. Of course when your older you pay more for things but you certainly don't fling your money around like you did when you where 19/20.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭newestUser


    The OP (or rb_ie) weren't looking for peoples opinions on their lifestyles. However, they choose to spend these amounts of money. You don't have to go drinking in cocoon, lillies, etc, you don't have to get taxis everywhere. You don't have to order expensive drinks. You don't have to go out several times a week. The reason your nightlife costs so much is because you choose to spend a lot of money of it. I don't see what's so complex about that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I didn't really have the money back then but I certainly flung what I could :D


    TheGooner wrote:
    Of course when your older you pay more for things but you certainly don't fling your money around like you did when you where 19/20.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭newestUser


    Now for my judgmental, bitchy post criticising peoples lifestyles. :) I have to admit, when I first saw someone posting about spending 800 euro a month on socialising, I was flabbergasted. It's an enormous sum of money, that's the most part of a lot of peoples mortgage! It's money that could be put towards a house/car/savings. Granted you don't think like that when you're younger. I certainly didn't. You spend what you have, and the future will take care of itself. Nothing wrong with that, lots of people go through a phase like it.

    But ultimately, spending this kind of money on your nightlife is *very* destructive, and not just from a financial perspective. Spending this much money on boozing is not good for your liver! It's also not good for your personal development and relationships with others to spend half the days of the week hungover, cranky and irritated. Being slumped in front of the telly in a coma, eating hangover food is not an ideal way to spend your free time. As mentioned before, it's certainly not good from a financial perspective.

    As I write, one of the guys I work with is currently up sh*t creek because he had a task to do last week, and he missed it because he went out boozing and didn't come in. We're all in our mid/late twenties here. He has a great social life, but he's still acting like 18/19 year olds do, and it's causing serious problems for him on the work front. And the amounts he spends on socialising are just f*cked in the head, no two ways about it. He is a prime example of how the attitude to socialising that the OP and rb_ie have, if people hold onto it for too long, is very destructive. I'm not painting the OP, rb_ie, or anyone else who spends lots of money on their social life, as bad people. I used to spend lots of money on boozing, and can understand why anyone would feel wounded when everyone starts wagging their finger at them for being irresponsible profligates. But I can also understand people's horror at spending so much on going out, and frankly share it.

    Long story short: enjoy the craziness for a while, but know when to knock it on the head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    rb_ie wrote:
    The only way to have a really cheap night is to get really cheap booze and consume enough of it so that you won't have to drink at the club you go to, then make sure you've a concession pass for the club after having walked all the way to it. Not spend a penny in there and walk home. I'm sure that would work out relatively cheap.

    I done this on plenty of occasions (would ya know I'm a student:rolleyes: ) Bottle of Bucky = ~ E10
    Free pass to club = E0
    Getting off my ass and walking/catching a lift of someone = E0
    Drink in the club = E4.50
    Supermacs = E5

    A great night was had by all for less than E20.

    If you seriously want consistently cheaper nights out get out of Dublin. In a regular session you save ~E1 on every drink. Taxis are cheaper (or you can walk in sonewhere like Galway where everything is nearby). Club entry is E10 (E6 during the week). Dublins a rip-off and not really any better for your nights out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    If I realised that I was spending 800 eurons a month, I'd have someone give me a good kick up the arsh! Its your money and you can do with it whatever you wish but you can just stop going out as has been mentioned, or go out less, simple. None of this, I can't do without zee demon drinks bolleex. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    i spent €120 on friday. no night club and no drugs involved.
    i got drunk on saturday for less that €20.
    all depends on where you go and how willing you are to waste money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    julep wrote:
    i spent €120 on friday. no night club and no drugs involved.
    i got drunk on saturday for less that €20.
    all depends on where you go and how willing you are to waste money.

    Tut! :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    julep wrote:
    i spent €120 on friday. no night club and no drugs involved.
    i got drunk on saturday for less that €20.
    all depends on where you go and how willing you are to waste money.

    Topping up on Saturday then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    TheGooner wrote:
    Tut! :(
    quiet, you. it's my birthday.
    Topping up on Saturday then?
    pretty much. i only needed to drink half as much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    julep wrote:
    quiet, you. it's my birthday.


    pretty much. i only needed to drink half as much.

    Happy birthday you old slag ;)

    Is your phone sick?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    You can't say to someone "oh busfare €1.20 and a taxi home €10 full stop". What happens if they don't live that close to town? Those aren't budgetable amounts. If your taxi home is €20 then it's €20, unless you want to try blowing the taxi driver to reduce your fare.

    Try reducing other costs. Broaden your range of drinks so you can find something cheaper. I've guzzled some less-than-usual things in my life on the hunt for a cheaper night out. Order a pint of tapwater with a drink and keep it on the go all night. If you're drinking it steadily you'll be drinking less alcohol (and you'll feel a damn sight better in the morning).

    If you're drinking red bull, that suggests that good company and great conversation isn't what you're after on a night out. Anyone buying jugs of something with red bull really is looking for a kick in the wallet-crotch. Why don't you just swap straight to champagne?

    You're not spending €800 on nights out, you're spending €800 on a lifestyle that you can't afford. If you're wondering why everyone keeps paying it, get them drunk and ask them what their credit card balance is. Usually, with a lot of the drinking set in the 'posher' Dublin clubs, you could buy a small car with the balance on their credit cards.

    You can rant and rave about it, or you can go to different places, drink cheaper drinks and rein in your spending.


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